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Why the Left Is Furious at Lieberman; Iraq is only a part

 
 
BernardR
 
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Reply Thu 7 Sep, 2006 01:10 am
Now, did you read my post? I wrote that only 7.5% of the private working force is UNIONIZED and that the rest comes mainly from teachers unions whose members make so much money that most of them do not want to be around the great unwashed and do not have sympathy for the left wing liberal Michael Moore types!

Do you know, Nimh, that the election in November will revolved around TURNOUT and NOT number of people registered or number of people polled?

The typical Democrat voter is much lazier and unmotivated than the typical Republican voter in Connecticut.

Are you aware that the Connecticut Median salary is one of the highest in the United States? Do you think that those people are going to vote for a newcomer who will, if he is elected, raise their taxes to give to the "canaille"?

Keltic Wizard apparently knows little about his Senator--

Lieberman MURDERED GIORDIANO in the 2000 election

828,902 to 448,077

And Keltic Wizard thinks that the 828,902 will now turn to the whoremonger Lamont???

Lieberman is an "expert" in foreign policy. He was one of the leaders in the fight for the Gulf War Resolution in Jamuary 199l. Lamont is a whoremonger!

One of the things that made Lieberman an attractive running mate for Al Gore was that he was not a lockstep defender of Bill Clinton.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Thu 7 Sep, 2006 01:17 am
Lamont is a hypocrite and all Connecticut will learn of it!!

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Connecticut millionaire businessman Ned Lamont, who sharply criticized the employment practices of Wal-Mart this week in his campaign to unseat Sen. Joe Lieberman in the Democrat primary, owns stock in the company, Senate records reveal.

"This is about waking up Wal-Mart, and this is also about waking up corporate America," Mr. Lamont said Wednesday at a Bridgeport rally against the retail giant, hosted by many of the same liberal bloggers who have boosted the former cable executive far ahead of Mr. Lieberman in the polls.

But Mr. Lamont and his family are part owners of the company, according to financial disclosure records he filed earlier this year with the secretary of the Senate. Mr. Lamont, his wife and a dependent child own as much as $31,000 in Wal-Mart stock.

Mr. Lamont and his wife jointly own two accounts containing as much as $16,000 in Wal-Mart stock. Their Wal-Mart holdings spin off as much as $3,500 in annual dividends. In addition, a trust fund he set up for one of his children contains as much as $15,000 in Wal-Mart stock and spins off as much as $1,000 in dividends.

In his remarks at the anti-Wal-Mart rally this week, Mr. Lamont never mentioned his shareholder status in the company.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Thu 7 Sep, 2006 01:28 am
Also on Tuesday, an independent group with Republican ties said it will air a TV ad in Connecticut on Wednesday and Thursday thanking Lieberman for supporting the Iraq war.

Wade Zirkle, executive director of Vets for Freedom, said his group's political arm is spending $60,000 to broadcast the commercial on cable and network channels.

Vets for Freedom calls itself a nonpartisan organization founded by Iraq and Afghanistan combat veterans.

Republican strategist Dan Senor, former spokesman for the defunct Coalition Provisional Authority in post-invasion Iraq; Bill Kristol, the editor of The Weekly Standard; and former Lieberman chief of staff Bill Andresen have advised his group, Zirkle said.

The ad features Connecticut veterans praising Lieberman's Iraq stance.

"We want to support policymakers who've been supportive of troops in the field," said Zirkle, adding that his group planned a second ad in the coming weeks.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Thu 7 Sep, 2006 01:34 am
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 7 Sep, 2006 03:52 am
BernardR wrote:
Yes, but Dyslexia is dyslexic. That is almost as bad as having had a terrible myocardial infarction and needing stents in your heart arteries!

But it is not quite as bad as being stark raving mad.
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blatham
 
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Reply Thu 7 Sep, 2006 05:38 am
nimh wrote:
BernardR wrote:
Yes, but Dyslexia is dyslexic. That is almost as bad as having had a terrible myocardial infarction and needing stents in your heart arteries!

But it is not quite as bad as being stark raving mad.


Hard to weight these things in terms of advantage/disadvantage, nimh.

dys, yourself, or myself for example, might feel some cognitive discomfort if we found outselves behind a heffer, giving her the bone, while shoving Old Glory and the New Testament up our own ass. Bernard could find all of this quite exciting, even liberating...a reason to go on living when all else seems so gray and unhappy.
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Thu 7 Sep, 2006 06:00 am
BernardR wrote:
Also on Tuesday, an independent group with Republican ties said it will air a TV ad in Connecticut on Wednesday and Thursday thanking Lieberman for supporting the Iraq war.


Which is going to help Lieberman how?


Are you folks under the impression that pointing out Lieberman's upfront support for Bush's Iraq shenanigans is going to aid him in his electoral quest?

You people are in for a surprise. Outside the Beltway, people are ANGRY out there. You don't get that, do you?
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SierraSong
 
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Reply Thu 7 Sep, 2006 09:34 pm
Is Lamont Changing His Mind on Bush and Iraq??

Heh.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Thu 7 Sep, 2006 09:45 pm
Sierra Song- Keltic Wizard wont read your link. He is a partisan hater!

He is also an economic moron! I will be one of the first to jam a message down his craw when Lieberman wins the election in Connecticut.

Keltic Wizard says--People are "angry" out there! He doesn't know that the only people that count are the ones who TURNOUT --not only the reporters from left wing newspapers or the gays from Greenwich Village or the leftists from the History Department at Yale.

Keltic Wizard will be surprised!!!

What Keltic Wizard does not know, Sierra Song, is that all of the big mouths who get all of the media attention and who are the superannuated hippies left over from the sixties, will not equal the numbers of the Silent Majority!!!
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BernardR
 
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Reply Thu 7 Sep, 2006 09:47 pm
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BernardR
 
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Reply Thu 7 Sep, 2006 09:51 pm
Nimh-I am ashamed of you!! Descending to puerile comments about loss of sanity! You may not realize it but there is evidence on these very threads concerning the massive illness that has beset a certain poster. This was documented and verified by a relative!

I know of no such documented comment about anyone's sanity!

I expect such a stupid comment about sanity from someone like Cicerone Imposter or Frank Apisa but not from you! Shame!!!!
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kelticwizard
 
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Reply Fri 8 Sep, 2006 07:12 am
BernardR wrote:
I wrote that only 7.5% of the private working force is UNIONIZED

Yet you crowed mightlily in several posts when Lieberman got the endorsement of 14 mostly small unions. Now that Lamont gets the endorsement of big unions like the United Auto Workers, both teachers' unions and the Service Workers' union, (55,000 members in Connecticut!), Bernard lectures us on how union endorsements aren't important.

Sounds like Bernard is getting desperate to post anything that remotely sounds like good news for Lieberman-even if it directly contradicts what he already posted.


BernardR wrote:
Do you know, Nimh, that the election in November will revolved around TURNOUT and NOT number of people registered or number of people polled?


Oh, polls aren't important, Bernard? Then why, when the first polls came out with Lieberman with a big lead, you triumphantly posted them on this thread over and over. When the polls then showed Lamont moving up fast, you deign to lecture us about how polls are unimportant.

Typical.
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 8 Sep, 2006 08:09 am

'K, read the article. But what is it exactly Lamont has changed his mind on?

The article says:

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Lamont on Wednesday rejected calls to impeach or censure President Bush for leading the nation into war in Iraq. He also said that as a senator, he would not support efforts to withhold defense funding as a means of ending the war. [..]

Lamont remains opposed to the Iraq war and supports a withdrawal of troops, based on a timetable set in concert with the U.S. military and Iraqi government. He believes it could be done within 18 months

I dont know enough about the past primary race to know, myself. But did Lamont propose an impeachment before, then? Or withholding defense funding? Is "full withdrawal within 18 months" actually a change from what he said previously?
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 8 Sep, 2006 01:17 pm
Nice running graphical overview of the polls for the Connecticut senate race, with averages over time, here at the lovely new Pollster.com
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BernardR
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 03:52 am
Nimh- I have worked in American Politics. You have not! I can tell you that polls seven weeks before the election are almost useless!!!
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 05:54 am
BernardR wrote:
Nimh- I have worked in American Politics. You have not! I can tell you that polls seven weeks before the election are almost useless!!!

Is that why, even just in the past month, you have posted or referred to polls yourself here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here?

(Thats 15 times if you're counting - an average of once every two days.)
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 06:53 am
What level of creative genius would it take for a writer to come up with a character like Bernard? Does he type in a tshirt and nothing more? Are last week's dishes carefully spread (in some secret symbology) about his elbows and feet? Befuddlement on stilts.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 07:07 am
blatham wrote:
What level of creative genius would it take for a writer to come up with a character like Bernard? Does he type in a tshirt and nothing more? Are last week's dishes carefully spread (in some secret symbology) about his elbows and feet? Befuddlement on stilts.

Kurt Vonnegut created Kilgore Trout;
Philip Jose' Farmer unleased Kilgore Trout;
Kilgore Trout wrote Venus on a half shell:

"Simon Wagstaff is the Space Wanderer, a seeker of truth and electric banjo player who narrowly escapes the Deluge that destroys Earth when he happens upon an abandoned Chinese spaceship, the Hwang Ho. A man without a planet, he gains immortality from an elixer drunk during a sexual interlude with a cat-like alien queen in heat. Now, with his pet owl, his dog Anubis and a sexy robot companion, Simon charts a 3,000-year course to the most distant corners of a multiverse full of surprises to seek out the answers to the questions no one can seem to answer."
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nimh
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 07:16 am
I was thinking more John Kennedy Toole's Ignatius..
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 10 Sep, 2006 07:18 am
Oh, I like that dys.
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