Why the Left Is Furious at Lieberman; Iraq is only a part

That is actually an argument why Lieberman would indeed find it relatively easy to win Republicans over - they're the pragmatical kind - eg, it doesnt strengthen your case that a majority of them will stick with Schlesinger no matter what rather than vote for a Dem. Theyre already used to their own men voting with the Dems half the time.

Yale University. And the head of the Yale workers just happens to be the spokesman for the group. And Lieberman's home is the New Haven area, where Yale is.

In other words, this whole event was put together for the media by a small union which supports Lieberman, to give the impression that Joe has labor behind him.

Lamont has the United Auto Workers, and the teacher's unions suported him in the primary, so he has them already.

I don't find this rally to be big news at all.

A) There are a certain percentage of hard core types who will pull the lever-or now, optically scan-for the Republicans. Maybe a smaller percentage in Connecticut than some other states-but 4%? Don't think so.


B) My point is that in a state where even the Republicans vote liberal half the time, endorsements by people like Cheney and Bush, and far right types like Limbaugh etc are not going to hurt Lamont much. If anything, it seems to me that support from people like that is going to push the independents over to Lamont.

$25 bet that Alterman had it right (Lieberman will accept Defence Secretary post in Bush administration if he wins)

HERE

Blatham
Blatham, if Lieberman goes that route, he's a bigger fool than he's already demonstrated.

What makes his qualified to be Secretary of Defense? Great move for Bush to appoint an unqualified person to try to clean up his mess. Setting the Democrats up for failure is more important to Bush that undoing the harm he has wrought on the Middle East.

BBB

Lieberman's committee assignments:
Homeland Security & Governmental Affairs-Ranking Member
Armed Services (4th of 11 Democrats)
Ranking Member-Airland
Emerging Threats & Capabilities
Environment & Public Works (3rd of 8 Democrats)
Clean Air, Climate Change, & Nuclear Safety
Fisheries, Wildlife, & Water
Transportation & Infrastructure
Small Business & Entrepreneurship (4th of 8 Democrats)

Re: Blatham


What made him qualified to be Vice President?

Re: Blatham


You have to asked about the difference between vice president and secretary of defense during the world crisis we are in?

BBB

In contrast to what Mr. Sargent writes, the unfiltered audio of Beck interviewing Lieberman is freely available here.
[list]http://mfile.akamai.com/6713/wma/glennbeck.download.akamai.com/6713/preview/06/08/liebermaninterview.asx[/list]
I find Sargent's summary of the interview basically fair, though.

thanks thomas

And what are the relative sizes of those unions? Hee hee.

Lamont has the United Auto Workers plus the backing of the two teachers unions which have already backed him since the primary.

If that Lieberman rally had any uniions of any size, then why was it headed by the leader of the tiny, relatively small Yale University workers' union?

You are wrong-AGAIN- Keltic Wizened-

Note-

On Friday,Lieberman announced endorsements from letter carriers and government employees. He has already secured the backing of other unions including musicians, communications workers, carpenters, hotel employees, food workers and two Teamsters locals.

On Friday????

This is Thursday, and that rally was held two days ago.

Those endorsements you are trying to present as "new" developments were part of that group of 20 unions at that rally.

You're just recycling old news and trying to present it as something new.

However, thanks for clarifying the fact that the endorsement by "the Teamsters" in fact amounted to two Teamster locals-which might well correspond to only two factories.

Once again, if that rally of 20 unions was so important, why was the head of the rally the fellow who represents the Yale University workers, a small and not particularly powerful union?

Keltic Wizened wrote:

Once again, if that rally of 20 unions was so important, why was the head of the rally the fellow who represents the Yale University workers, a small and not particularly powerful union?
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Because the fellow was someone who was important in Union circles.

Don't you know that?

Judging by what is being written,it seems there are several people that are afraid of Lieberman running as an independent.

Why is that?
And,why would they want to deny him his right to run if he wants?

The simple fact is that the union the fellow represents is small and not particularly powerful in the labor movement.

There are many more powerful unions in Connecticut which would have a much greater impact. If they were for Lieberman, where were their spokesmen?

The reason some people(me anyway) don't want him to run as an independent is why I never vote for independents. (no offense to Independents) It is because Independents don't win but they succeed in taking votes away in what otherwise would go to one party or another thereby giving control of congress to the other party. Even if the Independent ends up getting very small numbers, sometimes those small numbers make all the difference.

I don't understand why he just don't run as a republican and get it over with. He holds all the conservative views, "if it walks like a duck..."

CT-SEN: Lieberman And Right-Wing Host Agree: We're In World War III

revel
Revel wrote: I don't understand why he just don't run as a republican and get it over with. He holds all the conservative views, "if it walks like a duck..."

I don't agree. Lieberman has taken an overwhelming majority of liberal Democrat stands during his 18 years in the Senate. I was appalled by his embracing of Bush and his policies and it took me a while to figure out why he was doing it.

Lieberman and Gore won the 2000 popular vote and had the presidency stolen from them by Bush and the Supreme Court. It was a very heady experience to run for Vice President and traumatic to actually win, but not be sworn in. We know a lot about how Gore dealt with it but very little about how Lieberman handled his disappointment, who keep them to himself.

When Lieberman found himself with competition for his senate seat, I think he felt it as the final blow to his self-esteem. Remember, he continued to be a senate reelection candidate when he was running for vice president. Lieberman always wants a plan B. So it's not surprising that his plan B was to run as an independent if his opponent won nomination to his senate seat.

Lieberman changed after that vice president experience. He began to seek status approval in Washington while losing touch with the Conneticut democratic party and it's members. His sucking up to Bush was the last straw for many democrats.

I imagine Lieberman feeling like crap, wondering how the democratic party could treat their vice president vote winner so badly. I sympathize with him, but think he created his own problems. He needs to put his country first before his own interests.

American can't stand any more years under a republican dominated government. I'm disappointed that Lieberman's ego won't allow him to do what is best for our country. If the democrats don't take back the senate because of what he has done, he will have to hide under a rock in Conneticut.

BBB

I never really liked Lieberman, and I would welcome it if he did the right thing. On the other hand, I don't think the fortune of the nation will rise and fall according to his adventures. The left has to work for its victories, none is a given, and we just have to work all the harder to prevail.

Gore and Lieberman.

Gore couldn't even win his own home state while running for President, because of the (Tennessee) scandals and his own environmental hypocrisy in his (literal) backyard.

Lieberman will come very close and possibly win a Senate seat for his state without the support of his own party.

This is the gang that Liberals wanted to install in the White House after trying to steal as many votes as they could in 2000. But it didn't quite work.

We would have had a man with (at least) guts and (some) principle as VP, serving under 'the inventor of the internet' ( who also believes the internal combustion engine is the greatest threat to the world), who had not the guts to distance himself from the then-current Prevaricator-in-Chief, and who also vice-presided over the stock market meltdown of 2000 terming the economy of that day 'the best in the last 50 years'.

What will Libs come up with next? And they think they are ready for prime time and can handle national security?

The last time Libs were in the White House , we were attacked by terrorists on at least 4 separate occasions and DID NOTHING substantial.

Attack on the WTC 1
Attack on two embassies in Africa
Attack on the Khobar Towers
Attack on the USS Cole

Liberals in the CT primary voted down one of the few that wore their label who understands the threat to the country that we face. (Ed Koch seems to be another.)

I can't wait to see the result in CT.

It's lose-lose for the Libs.

If Lieberman prevails in blue CT, the party is completely turned upside down and the 2008 Presidential aspirants will have to sprint to the middle.

If Lieberman loses, the 2008 slate shifts so far to the left that John Kerry circa 2004 will look like Ronald Reagan in comparison.