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What's happening with those poor devils at Camp Xray ???

 
 
msolga
 
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Reply Mon 31 Jan, 2005 08:22 pm
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 1 Feb, 2005 02:34 pm
The UK now releases terror suspect from prison, too, citing lack of evidence: an Egyptian man it had held since December 2001 without trial or charges, and on Monday three other detainees, a Palestinian and two Algerians.

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Terror suspect freed from UK jail

A foreign terror suspect held in the UK without trial or charge since December 2001 has been freed from jail, Home Secretary Charles Clarke has confirmed.

The man, an Egyptian known only as C, was let out of Woodhill Prison near Milton Keynes at 1900 GMT on Monday.

In a statement, Mr Clarke said there was not enough evidence to maintain his certification as a terrorist suspect.

C's release, which his lawyer says has no conditions attached, came after three other detainees were given bail.

C had been held under the Anti-Terrorism, Crime and Security Act.
His case had been due to be reviewed at a Special Immigration Appeal Commission (Siac) hearing later this week but was released before it could be held.

In a statement to the House of Commons, Mr Clarke said C's certification under the act had been kept under constant review.

He said: "As part of this process, I concluded... that the weight of evidence in relation to C at the current time does not justify the continuance of the certificate.

"I therefore decided to revoke the certificate with immediate effect."


Asylum

At a previous appeal hearing against his detention, Home Office lawyers claimed C was a leading member of Egyptian Islamic Jihad.

They said he had been in contact with prominent extremists and had assisted in fraudulent fundraising.

C, who had applied for asylum in the UK claiming he had been persecuted in Egypt, denied the allegations.

C's lawyer, Natalia Garcia, said news of his release had come "completely out of the blue".

Just hours before freeing C without conditions, the Home Office had said it would only tolerate his release under house arrest, Ms Garcia said.

She told BBC News: "In effect the home secretary has now admitted that C is no danger to anyone at all, which is what we've said from the very beginning, but it has taken three years and his life has been decimated in the meantime."

She added: "He was delighted to be released but very perplexed and confused about the whole situation and couldn't understand why he had been interned for three years on the basis of nothing at all and suddenly released."

'Draconian'

Civil liberties campaigners also questioned the logic behind C's detention and release.

Liberty director Shami Chakrabarti said: "The public has no idea why yesterday he was dangerous and today he is safe.

"This is a glimpse of the terrifying future where everyone may be subjected to detention on the basis of secret intelligence and a politician's whim."

Amnesty International's Stephen Bowen said: "This man's release only underscores the arbitrariness and secretive nature of the Draconian measures currently being used to detain people without charge in this country."

On Monday, Palestinian detainee Mahmoud Abu Rideh was granted bail at another Siac hearing in London.

He had been detained at Broadmoor hospital after being moved from Belmarsh prison and is still being held, pending a decision on bail conditions and his future mental health care.

Two other men, Algerians known only as A and P, were also granted bail. A decision on their bail conditions is still awaited.

The Home Office said they should be placed under house arrest but lawyers representing the two men said this would not be acceptable.

The measures which allowed 12 foreign terror suspects to be detained indefinitely without trial were ruled unlawful by the Law Lords in December.

To take their place, the home secretary has introduced "control orders" for terror suspects, which include the power to place them under house arrest.

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revel
 
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Reply Wed 2 Feb, 2005 09:04 am
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=542&e=1&u=/ap/20050202/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/guantanamo_videotapes


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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 2 Feb, 2005 07:13 pm
Last Update: Thursday, February 3, 2005. 10:47am (AEDT)

US judge orders CIA release Guantanamo records

A US federal judge has ordered the CIA to release records regarding the treatment of prisoners detained in Guantanamo Bay and other facilities in the "war on terror" to a civil rights groups.

District Judge Alvin Hellerstein's ruling rejected a CIA request that he suspend a similar order made in September for the documents to be handed over to the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).

The CIA had challenged the original ruling by citing a provision in the Freedom of Information Act, allowing the spy agency to hold on to files still considered "operational".

Judge Hellerstein ruled that the CIA did not meet the statute's requirement that its director must explicitly claim an exemption for specifically categorised files.

"To date, defendant CIA has submitted no evidence that the director declared such an exemption. I decline to find that its operational files warrant any protection from the requirements of FOIA," Judge Hellerstein said.

The ACLU had requested the records in October 2003 but was turned down by the intelligence agency. Subsequent requests were also denied, and the ACLU eventually decided to sue for the documents' release in court.

The ACLU argued that the records would shed light on the interrogation policies that authorised or allowed abuse or torture of prisoners in Iraq, Guantanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib and elsewhere.

There was no immediate word from government lawyers on whether the CIA would appeal.

-AFP/Reuters
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2005 11:30 am
As a public service for those of you who weren't able to follow the confirmation hearings and Senate debate on Alberto Gonzales, Attorney General, I present you with the abridged version of everything you missed this past week:

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Alberto Gonzales grew up poor and Hispanic, just like millions of other Americans we normally wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole. But through hard work, intellect, and by attaching himself remora-like to a wealthy and intellectually lazy man, he has been lifted to the highest positions of trust in our nation, and is now living every Republican's dream: helping to execute people whose lawyers slept through their trials; reinterpreting the Constitution to allow monarchist powers; and helping to set up offshore prison camps for the torture of foreign nationals.


Thank yew, America, we'll be here for the next four years.

Tune in next week, when we will summarize Dr. James Dobson (R-Bikini Bottom), head of Focus on the Family, in what will no doubt be an explosive week of decrying man-on-man, President-on-Senator kissing in the halls of government.

Honestly, C-SPAN, haven't you harmed America enough?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 8 Feb, 2005 11:04 am
US, France agree to transfer of remaining French citizens from Gitmo

The US has agreed to transfer the last three French citizens being held at Guantanamo Bay to France, with an official announcement of the agreement expected later Tuesday. The remaining detainees are Mustaq Ali Patel, Ridouane Khalid and Khaled Ben Mustafa, who have been held by the US since being arrested in 2001 and 2002 in Afghanistan. The US transferred four French detainees last summer, and they remain in the custody of the French government, which is investigating terror links. The US also transferred several Australian and British detainees last month. The agreement in principle was announced before US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was scheduled to meet with French President Jacques Chirac later today.

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France, US agree to repatriate French prisoners from Guantanamo

The United States and France have agreed to repatriate the last three French citizens being held prisoner in the US military base of Guantanamo in Cuba, various sources told AFP.

The agreement in principle was given before US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was to meet French President Jacques Chirac in Paris later Tuesday.

"The United States has given its agreement" but no date was fixed for the hand over, an official close to the case who requested anonymity told AFP.

A lawyer for Mustaq Ali Patel, one of the three Frenchmen being held at Guantanamo, said details were still being worked out for the repatriation.

"The discussions are going in the right direction and are currently looking at how they will be returned," said the lawyer, William Bourdon.

Patel, an Indian-born man in his 40s who acquired French nationality through marriage, was arrested at the end of 2001 in Afghanistan, where he had been living for several years.

The other two French citizens held at Guantanamo are Ridouane Khalid, 36, the brother of two men arrested in France last year on suspicion of hiding terrorist funds and recruiting for Chechen militants; and Khaled Ben Mustafa, 33, who was arrested in Afghanistan where his family said he was learning Arabic in an Islamic school.

Four other Frenchmen who had been held at Guantanamo after being arrested in Afghanistan in 2001 were transferred to France in July last year, where they remain in custody while being investigated on suspicion for associating with criminals "in relation to a terrorist enterprise".

A US federal judge on January 31 ruled that military trials US President George W. Bush's government intended to mount against the estimated 550 prisoners from 20 countries remaining at Guantanamo were unconstitutional because they did not provide due process.

Judge Joyce Green said some of the prisoners had had their Geneva Conventions rights violated, no legal access to evidence used against them and that the US government had tended to rely on statements obtained by torture.

The US Justice Department has lodged an appeal against the ruling.

Human rights groups have expressed strong concern about the legal limbo the prisoners at Guantanamo were living in because of Washington's insistence that they were "illegal combattants" -- a vaguely defined term -- and that the Guantanamo base was not technically US territory because it was leased from Cuba.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 15 Feb, 2005 08:13 am
International Committee of the Red Cross president Jakob Kellenberger has met with President Bush to discuss ICRC concerns about detainees at Guantanamo Bay.
The Red Cross regularly visits the detainees and, according to a leaked memo, has accused the US of using tactics "tantamount to torture" on terror suspects. The Pentagon later denied the allegations.

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Red Cross head raises Guantanamo inmates with Bush
15 Feb 2005

Source: Reuters

GENEVA, Feb 15 (Reuters) - Jakob Kellenberger, president of the International Committee of the Red Cross, has raised concerns with U.S. President George Bush about detainees at Guantanamo Bay and elsewhere, an ICRC spokesman said on Tuesday.

Kellenberger, who held talks with Bush and U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in Washington on Monday, was due to meet U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on Tuesday, he added.

Asked whether Kellenberger had discussed prisoners held at the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, with Bush, ICRC spokesman Florian Westphal in Geneva told Reuters: "Concerns relating to detainees were one issue discussed".

He declined to comment further, adding: "We feel bilateral talks are the best way generally to obtain results."

ICRC officials regularly visit prisoners at Guantanamo Bay, which holds hundreds of terror suspects detained during the 2001 U.S. war to oust al Qaeda and the ruling Taliban from Afghanistan and in other operations.

A leaked ICRC memorandum last November accused the U.S. military of using tactics "tantamount to torture" on inmates there, but the Pentagon strongly denied allegations of abuse.

In a brief overnight statement, the Swiss-based humanitarian agency said Kellenberger and Bush had discussed "ICRC concerns regarding U.S. detention" as well as armed conflicts worldwide and ICRC relief operations. It gave no details.

The agency said it welcomed the opportunity to "raise these issues at the highest level and looks forward to strengthening its confidential dialogue with U.S. authorities".

Kellenberger had also raised three "priority contexts" with Bush and Rice -- the troubled Darfur region of Sudan, Iraq and Afghanistan, according to spokesman Westphal.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 18 Feb, 2005 06:56 am
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In the feverish atmosphere of America in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, Stephens's advice was reversed. In mutterings from the US secret service and op-ed pieces in the US media, it was suggested that moral courage demanded support for torture. "Nobody is talking. Frustration has begun to appear," a senior FBI official told the Washington Post a month after the attacks. A few days later, a CIA veteran was quoted in the LA Times: "A lot of people are saying we need someone at the agency who can pull fingernails out." Alan Dershowitz, a professor of law at Harvard, wrote that judges should be able to issue warrants licensing the torture of suspects where the authorities somehow knew that the suspects were concealing information about "an imminent large-scale threat".

In a recent paper for the New England Journal of Public Policy, Alfred McCoy, a history professor at Wisconsin-Madison University, surveys the CIA's use of torture over half a century in Vietnam, Central America and Iran, and marvels at the recklessness of the commentators of 2001. "In weighing personal liberty versus public safety," he writes, "all those pro-pain pundits were ignorant of torture's complexly perverse psychopathology, that leads to both uncontrolled proliferation of the practice and long-term damage to the perpetrator society."

In the new collections of memos and reports, the American will to inflict pain on captives and the conviction that the 9/11 killing of civilians was unique in history is spelled out. In January 2002 the senior White House lawyer, Alberto Gonzales - now attorney general - writes to Bush claiming that there have never been wars before in which civilians are "wantonly" killed, or where it has been necessary to "quickly obtain information" from prisoners. The Geneva Convention, he argues, is a quaint relic. "In my judgement," he tells the president, "this new paradigm renders obsolete Geneva's strict limitations on questioning of enemy prisoners."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/afghanistan/story/0,1284,1417225,00.html
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 21 Feb, 2005 02:28 pm
The World Council of Churches (WCC), a global organization for non-Catholic Christians, accused the United States on Monday of violating international law in its treatment of Guantanamo Bay detainees. The detainees "are held without due process and in total violation of the norms and standards of international humanitarian and human rights law," according to Monday's WCC statement. The statement was supported by the US National Council of Churches (NCC), which unites 36 Christian communities across the nation. The statement further called for all NCC churches to educate their congregations on the Guantanamo Bay situation to urge followers to call "for the release of those being held in detention under inhuman conditions." The denouncement of the treatment of Guantanamo detainees may earn special attention from President Bush, who is a fervent Christian, and has often publicly invoked his religious beliefs.
Report on 'reuters'
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revel
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2005 11:44 am
I'm not sure where to put this:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2027&ncid=2027&e=5&u=/chitribts/20050225/ts_chicagotrib/italyprobespossibleciaroleinabduction

Italy probes possible CIA role in abduction

2 hours, 58 minutes ago

By John Crewdson Tribune senior correspondent

An Italian prosecutor investigating the apparent kidnapping of a suspected Islamic militant in the streets of Milan served military authorities this week with a demand for records of flights into and out of a joint U.S.-Italian air base in northern Italy.


Italian newspapers have reported that the prosecutor, Armando Spataro, is investigating the possible role of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (news - web sites) in the disappearance of Osama Nasr Mostafa Hassan, better known as Abu Omar, a popular figure in Milan's Islamic community who vanished Feb. 17, 2003.


Spataro, a chief prosecutor in Milan, said by phone Thursday that "I can confirm only that yesterday I went to Aviano," as the air base is known. "We have an investigation," he added, "but it's secret."


Bruno Megele, a top anti-terrorist police investigator who reportedly accompanied Spataro, declined to speak about the visit, which Italian newspapers described as unprecedented.


Spataro's warrant is believed to have sought information about the ownership and flight plans of non-military aircraft as well as records on vehicles arriving at and departing from Aviano in the hours before and after Omar's disappearance.


A passerby who claimed to have witnessed the abduction said several men grabbed Omar, a 41-year-old Egyptian national, on a Milan sidewalk and hustled him into a parked van that drove off accompanied by another car.


Since Sept. 11, 2001, several unnamed U.S. officials have been quoted by numerous media outlets discussing the U.S. practice of "rendition," in which suspected terrorists or Al Qaeda supporters captured abroad are sent for interrogation to countries where human rights are not universally respected.


The Tribune reported last month that a Gulfstream executive jet reportedly used to ferry some suspected terrorists to Egypt and other countries was owned by Bayard Foreign Marketing LLC, a Portland, Ore., company that appears to exist only on paper.

A break from practice


Most renditions in which the CIA (news - web sites) is known or suspected to have taken part involve individuals captured on the battlefield or arrested by authorities in the countries where they reside.


Neither was the case with Abu Omar, which has opened the door to the possible criminal prosecution of those involved. Spataro was quoted earlier as saying that if any Americans played a part in Omar's abduction, "it would be a serious breach of Italian law."


The newspaper La Repubblica reported last week that some targets of the investigation worked for the CIA. The leading Italian newspaper, Corriere della Sera of Milan, said Thursday that "at least 15 persons have been under investigation for months."


Another paper, Il Giorno, reported that all 15 were CIA employees. One source told the Tribune that the police are satisfied that they know the identities of those who carried out the abduction, and that Spataro is now trying to determine at what level the action was approved.


A CIA spokeswoman had no comment. Ben Duffy, a spokesman at the U.S. Embassy in Rome, said officials there were "trying to figure out what's going on." The CIA also has satellite facilities at the U.S. Consulate in Milan and at the Aviano air base.


The base's chief of public affairs, Capt. Eric Elliott, confirmed that Spataro had met with the Italian base commander on Wednesday. Although the base is owned and commanded by the Italian air force, many of the fighters and bombers based there are from the U.S. and are flown by U.S. pilots.


Elliott said U.S. authorities at the base intended to "respond appropriately to requests for information from the Italian authorities in accordance with existing agreements."


That presumably would include records of any flights by the mysterious Gulfstream jet. The first public mention of the aircraft appeared six weeks after the Sept. 11 hijacking attacks, when a Pakistani newspaper reported that Jamil Qasim Saeed Mohammed, a 27-year-old microbiology student at Karachi University, had been spirited aboard the plane at Karachi's airport by Pakistani security officers.


There is still no information about where Mohammed may have been taken. But Pakistani officials said later that the U.S. believed Mohammed, a Yemeni national, belonged to Al Qaeda and had information about the October 2000 bombing of the USS Cole (news - web sites) while it was refueling in the Yemeni port of Aden.

Another well-documented rendition involving the same plane occurred in December 2001, when two Egyptian nationals, Ahmed Agiza and Muhammed al-Zery, were flown aboard the Gulfstream from Sweden's Bromma airport to Cairo. A Swedish television channel, TV4, reported last year that the plane's registration number was N379P, which would make it the aircraft acquired by Bayard Foreign Marketing last Nov. 16.

The Sunday Times of London, which said it had obtained the Gulfstream's flight logs, reported in November that the plane was based at Dulles International Airport outside Washington and had flown to at least 49 destinations outside the U.S., including Egypt, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, Jordan, Iraq (news - web sites), Morocco, Afghanistan (news - web sites), Libya and Uzbekistan.

Stefano Dambruoso, Milan's anti-terrorist prosecutor at the time of Omar's disappearance, said he suspected from the beginning that Omar had been kidnapped, noting that he had no apparent reason to flee or to leave his wife, a teacher at a private Islamic school in Milan.

Initial suspicion focused on the Egyptian intelligence services, which are believed to have kidnapped another Egyptian militant, Talaat Fouad Kassem, under similar circumstances in Yugoslavia in 1995.

The Egyptian Embassy in Washington did not respond to requests for comment by voice mail and e-mail. The Egyptian foreign minister, Ahmed Aboul Gheit, recently told a group of Tribune reporters and editors that he had no personal knowledge of any torture of suspected terrorists by his government.

Aboul Gheit did not deny the possibility that renditions had taken place, although he said he had no evidence of that either. "Are we to be blamed," he asked rhetorically, "if the Americans are delivering people to us, our own nationals?"

Call helps establish link

Spataro was able to link Omar's disappearance to Aviano through records of cell phone calls made by his abductors as they drove the 175 miles to the air base from Milan, Corriere della Sera reported Thursday. The calls included conversations with someone at the base, the paper said.

The newspaper reported last year that, about 14 months after his disappearance, Omar telephoned his wife from Cairo to tell her he had been released from prison by the Egyptians.

During that conversation, monitored by an Italian police wiretap, Omar reportedly told his wife that he had been kidnapped by American and Italian agents, "narcoticized," and, after several hours of questioning at Aviano, flown aboard a small plane to Egypt.

Once there, he said, he was imprisoned and tortured by the Mukhabarat, the Egyptian intelligence service. The Italian police said Omar was re-arrested by the Egyptians a few weeks after that phone call and has not been heard from since.

One person knowledgeable about Spataro's investigation said it has not turned up evidence of involvement by Italian intelligence agents in Omar's disappearance, and Italy's intelligence services do not have the power to make arrests or detain suspects in any event.

Omar, a native of Alexandria, Egypt, reportedly fought with Muslim forces in Afghanistan and Bosnia during the 1980s and 1990s, and was arrested in Albania in 1996 and charged with planning an attack on the Egyptian foreign minister.

Following his release by the Albanians, Omar was granted political asylum by Italy in 1997. He spent the next several years as an imam, or preacher, at a popular mosque in Milan.

Omar's post-Sept. 11 meetings with known Al Qaeda operators and his recruitment of militant fighters for jihadist battles--an activity that an Italian court declared earlier this month did not violate that country's laws--eventually brought Omar to the attention of police. Their listening devices reportedly picked up a conversation in which Omar talked of mounting a car bomb attack against a public bus in Milan.

The subsequent discovery that Omar had been taken to Egypt has raised questions about the fate of the former Al Qaeda chief in Italy, Abdelkader Mahmoud Es Sayed, another Egyptian Islamist who disappeared from Milan two months before Sept. 11.

Like Es Sayed, Omar was one of several Egyptian militants opposed to the government of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak (news - web sites) who were granted political asylum by the Italian government.

Es Sayed, better known as Abu Saleh, was at first believed by authorities to have made his way to Afghanistan and later to have died there in an allied bombing attack. He was convicted in absentia in Egypt for his alleged role in the killings of 58 foreign tourists at Luxor in November 1997.
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old europe
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2005 12:16 pm
bookmarking, and still wondering....

Because sovereignty of Guantánamo Bay ultimately resides with Cuba, the U.S. government argued that people detained at Guantánamo were legally outside of the U.S. and did not have the Constitutional rights that they would have if they were held on U.S. territory...

I am tempted to quote the inauguration speech AGAIN...

Rolling Eyes
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 25 Feb, 2005 12:33 pm
I think you may be mis-interpreting what he said into thinking it means the US will evict all tyrants, militarily if necessary.

I do not believe that was his intention.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 1 Mar, 2005 01:18 am
I problem of today seems to have been a problem nearly 50 years ago as well - from a plan by the MI5 to intern Communists after the second world
war in Britain
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"If the Home Office do in fact apply the convention, the protected person (which would include all the inmates of the camp) has so many rights, and the protecting power so many obligations, that any intelligence officer stationed at the camp would find his work difficult.

"He would be hampered not only by the Home Office but by the activities of the protecting power and the International Committee of the Red Cross.

"It would in fact be quite impossible to carry out serious interrogation under these circumstances."
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revel
 
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Reply Thu 3 Mar, 2005 07:36 am
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2576-2005Mar2.html

CIA Avoids Scrutiny of Detainee Treatment
Afghan's Death Took Two Years to Come to Light; Agency Says Abuse Claims Are Probed Fully
By Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, March 3, 2005; Page A01


In November 2002, a newly minted CIA case officer in charge of a secret prison just north of Kabul allegedly ordered guards to strip naked an uncooperative young Afghan detainee, chain him to the concrete floor and leave him there overnight without blankets, according to four U.S. government officials aware of the case.

The Afghan guards -- paid by the CIA and working under CIA supervision in an abandoned warehouse code-named the Salt Pit -- dragged their captive around on the concrete floor, bruising and scraping his skin, before putting him in his cell, two of the officials said.

As night fell, so, predictably, did the temperature.

By morning, the Afghan man had frozen to death.

After a quick autopsy by a CIA medic -- "hypothermia" was listed as the cause of death -- the guards buried the Afghan, who was in his twenties, in an unmarked, unacknowledged cemetery used by Afghan forces, officials said. The captive's family has never been notified; his remains have never been returned for burial. He is on no one's registry of captives, not even as a "ghost detainee," the term for CIA captives held in military prisons but not registered on the books, they said.

"He just disappeared from the face of the earth," said one U.S. government official with knowledge of the case.

The CIA case officer, meanwhile, has been promoted, two of the officials said, who like others interviewed for this article spoke on the condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to talk about the matter. The case is under investigation by the CIA inspector general.

The fact that the Salt Pit case has remained secret for more than two years reflects how little is known about the CIA's treatment of detainees and its handling of allegations of abuse. The public airing of abuse at Abu Ghraib prompted the Pentagon to undertake and release scathing reports about conduct by military personnel, to revise rules for handling prisoners, and to prosecute soldiers accused of wrongdoing. There has been no comparable public scrutiny of the CIA, whose operations and briefings to Congress are kept classified by the administration.

Thirty-three military workers have been court-martialed and an additional 55 received reprimands for their mishandling of detainees, according to the Defense Department. One CIA contractor has been charged with a crime related to allegations of detainee abuse. David A. Passaro is on trial in federal court in North Carolina, facing four assault charges in connection with the death of Abdul Wali, a prisoner who died while at a U.S. military firebase in Afghanistan in June 2003.

The CIA's inspector general is investigating at least half a dozen allegations of serious abuse in Iraq and Afghanistan, including two previously reported deaths in Iraq, one in Afghanistan and the death at the Salt Pit, U.S. officials said.

A CIA spokesman said yesterday that the agency actively pursues allegations of misconduct. Other U.S. officials said CIA cases can take longer to resolve because, unlike the military, the agency must rely on the Justice Department to conduct its own review and to prosecute when warranted.

"The agency has an aggressive, robust office of the inspector general with the authority to look into any CIA program or operation anywhere," said a CIA representative who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "The inspector general has done so and will continue to do so. We investigate allegations of abuse fully." The spokesman declined to comment on any case.

The Salt Pit was the top-secret name for an abandoned brick factory, a warehouse just north of the Kabul business district that the CIA began using shortly after the United States invaded Afghanistan in October 2001. The 10-acre facility included a three-story building, eventually used by the U.S. military to train the Afghan counterterrorism force, and several smaller buildings, which were off-limits to all but the CIA and a handful of Afghan guards and cooks who ran the prison, said several current and former military and intelligence officers.

The CIA wanted the Salt Pit to be a "host-nation facility," an Afghan prison with Afghan guards. Its designation as an Afghan facility was intended to give U.S. personnel some insulation from actions taken by Afghan guards inside, a tactic used in secret CIA prisons in other countries, former and current CIA officials said.

The CIA, however, paid the entire cost of maintaining the facility, including the electricity, food and salaries for the guards, who were all vetted by agency personnel. The CIA also decided who would be kept inside, including some "high-value targets," senior al Qaeda leaders in transit to other, more secure secret CIA prisons.

"We financed it, but it was an Afghan deal," one U.S. intelligence officer said.

In spring 2004, when the CIA first referred the Salt Pit case to the Justice Department for possible prosecution, the department cited the prison's status as a foreign facility, outside the jurisdiction of the U.S. government, as one reason for declining to prosecute, U.S. government officials aware of the decision said.

The case officer who was put in charge of the Salt Pit was on his first assignment. Described by colleagues as "bright and eager" and "full of energy," he was the kind of person the agency needed for such a dismal job. The officer was working undercover, and his name could not be learned.

"A first-tour officer was put in charge because there were not enough senior-level volunteers," said one intelligence officer familiar with the case. "It's not a job just anyone would want. More senior people said, 'I don't want to do that.' There was a real notable absence of high-ranking people" in Afghanistan.

Besides, the intelligence officer said, "the CIA did not have a deep cadre of people who knew how to run prisons. It was a new discipline. There's a lot of room to get in trouble."

Shortly after the death, the CIA briefed the chairmen and vice chairmen of the House and Senate intelligence committees, the only four people in Congress whom the CIA has decided to routinely brief on detainee and interrogation issues. But, one official said, the briefing was not complete.

The Afghan detainee had been captured in Pakistan along with a group of other Afghans. His connection to al Qaeda or the value of his intelligence was never established before he died. "He was probably associated with people who were associated with al Qaeda," one U.S. government official said.

The brick factory has since been torn down, and the CIA has built a facility somewhere else.

A team of federal prosecutors in the Eastern District of Virginia recently convened to handle allegations of detainee abuse is now taking a second look at the case.

The pace of the CIA investigations has tested the patience of some in Congress, as was evident two weeks ago when Sen. Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.), a member of the Senate intelligence panel, asked CIA Director Porter J. Goss when the inspector general's inquiry would be complete and available to the oversight committees.

"I haven't asked him what day he's going to finish all these cases," Goss replied.

"Or a month?" shot back Levin.

"As soon as they are through," Goss answered. ". . . I know there is still a bunch of other cases."

In recent weeks, the ranking Democrats on the House and Senate intelligence panels have asked their Republican chairmen to investigate the CIA's detention and interrogations. Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) has declined the request from Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.).

The CIA inspector general, meanwhile, recently completed a review of detention procedures in Afghanistan and Iraq and gave Goss 10 recommendations for improving administrative procedures for holding, moving and interrogating prisoners. The recommendations included more detailed reporting requirements from the field, increased safeguards against abuse and including more CIA officials in decisions affecting interrogation tactics.

Two have been fully adopted, officials said.

Researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 3 Mar, 2005 01:39 pm
This is truly scary stuff we're writing about.

I mean, we're disappearing people. That doesn't worry anyone else?

From a discussion on metafilter(emphasis mine):

http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/40126#869415

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koeselitz writes: There are a lot of disturbing news links here about a torture incident, and then some other countries condemning the United States on their human rights record. I don't know how to connect these; can you tell me? Are you saying you're afraid that the United States is going the way of Germany in the 1930s? I've already said before that I think this is sort of crazy; you, I think (I don't know) disagree with me. You should have a chance to speak for yourself, so go ahead."

This isn't about me, it's about the links. And I'll try very hard to not read "[y]ou should have a chance to speak for yourself, so go ahead" as condescending.

That said, I have always been a patriot, I have always fervently loved my country, and -- I'll be honest -- I thought there was something special about being an American.

I was never a lefty. In fact, I remember back in the 1980s arguing with lefties, some of whom in addition to bashing America, told me how wonderful the USSR was.

My response (having read The Gulag Archipelago) was always that whatever the United States did wrong, we didn't arrest people at midnight, hold them without charges in Lubyankas, or have a policy of torturing prisoners -- but that Stalin's and Brezhnev's and even Andropov's Russian did.

And when I met people from Kuwait or Saudi Arabia or the Soviet Union or Iraq or Iran, I was always polite, but I would wonder silently to myself "How can these people be proud of being Kuwaiti or Saudi or Russian or Iraqi or Iranian, when they know that they're well-off enough to be tourists or students in America because of their regime back home, a regime that is ultimately based on suppressing political dissent by arbitrary arrest, torture and execution. I always wondered what mental gymnastics were required to see oneself as "civilized" when one's prosperity and access to the amenities of civilization were built on the bloodied backs of beaten prisoners.

Well, now I know. Because I'm as much a "good German" (or Kuwaiti or Russian or Iraqi) as any of them were.

It's not just that torture -- whoops! -- happened. We had an official policy not only authorizing torture but also claiming that the President of the United States can set aside laws he prefers not to obey! And according to the U.S. Attorney General, while the torture policy is currently in abeyance, he, the highest law-enforcement officer in the land, still believes the President can arbitrarily set aside laws. And teh President, says the Attorney General, can even bring back torture if it's his whim to do so.

(Conservatives rail about "activist judges"; don't Presidents unconstrained by law worry you too?)

And after knowing about this torture, and these polices, a majority of Americans reelected the President responsible, and a majority of the United States Senators consented to the elevation of a man who at best looked the other at an official US policy of torture.

In the past, you're right, we could afford to ignore hypocritical Chinese or Russian criticism of our human rights record. But now that we have consented to make an admitted and unrepentant torturer US Attorney General, we can't. We're not upholding the American values that made America a little better than the rest. We're all "good Germans" now, and any idea of "American exceptionalism" is consigned to the dustbin of history.

And I am angry, and I am ashamed, that my America has been turned into a country that can't unequivocally say: "we are not like Communist China, we are not like Russia, we have morals and values and we do not do those things totalitarian regimes do."

posted by orthogonality at 11:03 AM PST on March 3


Cycloptichorn
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 3 Mar, 2005 01:44 pm
Cyclop, The neocons justify it on the basis of American Security, and most repubs approve, and they have the majority in this country; the Christian right, that is.
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 13 Jul, 2005 06:20 am
I highly recommend this New Yorker piece on Guantanamo... http://www.newyorker.com/online/content/articles/050711on_onlineonly01

The link above takes you to an interview with the author, but gives a good taste of content. The magazine and full article can likely be found on your newstand now, or you can order it up.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 9 Sep, 2005 02:34 am
Quote:
Hunger strikers pledge to die in Guantánamo

Audrey Gillan
Friday September 9, 2005
The Guardian


More than 200 detainees in Guantánamo Bay are in their fifth week of a hunger strike, the Guardian has been told.
Statements from prisoners in the camp which were declassified by the US government on Wednesday reveal that the men are starving themselves in protest at the conditions in the camp and at their alleged maltreatment - including desecration of the Qur'an - by American guards.

The statements, written on August 11, have just been given to the British human rights lawyer Clive Stafford Smith. They show that prisoners are determined to starve them selves to death. In one, Binyam Mohammed, a former London schoolboy, said: "I do not plan to stop until I either die or we are respected.

"People will definitely die. Bobby Sands petitioned the British government to stop the illegitimate internment of Irishmen without trial. He had the courage of his convictions and he starved himself to death. Nobody should believe for one moment that my brothers here have less courage."
Yesterday, Mr Stafford Smith, who represents 40 detainees at Guantánamo Bay, eight of whom are British residents, said many men had been starving themselves for more than four weeks and the situation was becoming desperate.

He said: "I am worried about the lives of my guys because they are a pretty obstinate lot and they are going to go through with this and I think they are going to end up killing themselves. The American military doesn't want anyone to know about this."

He pointed to an American army claim that only 76 prisoners at the base were refusing food, saying that they were attempting to play down what could be a political scandal if a prisoner were to die.

The hunger strike is the second since late June. The first ended after the authorities made a number of promises, including better access to books, and bottled drinking water.

The men claim that they were tricked into eating again.

In his statement, Mr Mohammed described how during the first strike men were placed on intravenous drips after refusing food for 20 days.

He said: "The administration promised that if we gave them 10 days, they would bring the prison into compliance with the Geneva conventions. They said this had been approved by Donald Rumsfeld himself in Washington DC. As a result of these promises, we agreed to end the strike on July 28.

"It is now August 11. They have betrayed our trust (again). Hisham from Tunisia was savagely beaten in his interrogation and they publicly desecrated the Qur'an (again). Saad from Kuwait was ERF'd [visited by the Extreme Reaction Force] for refusing to go (again) to interrogation because the female interrogator had sexually humiliated him (again) for 5 hours _ Therefore, the strike must begin again."

In another declassified statement, Omar Deghayes, from Brighton, said: "In July, some people took no water for many days. I was part of the strike and I am again this time. Some people were taken to hospital, and put on drip feeds, but they pulled the needles out, as they preferred to die. There were two doctors. One wanted to force feed the men, but they got legal advice saying that they could not if the men refused.

"In the end the military agreed to negotiate. We came off the strike [on July 28 2005], but we gave them two weeks, and if the changes were not implemented we would go back on strike."

Yesterday, Mr Deghayes's brother, Abubaker, pleaded with the British government to intervene on his brother's behalf. "I'm really worried. Something really needs to be done. We can't just allow people to be oppressed and tortured," he said.

Another prisoner, Jamal Kiyemba, from Battersea, south London, said in an account of the July hunger strike: "Many of the prisoners collapsed, as they would not drink water. More than 30 were hospitalised. I am in Camp IV and we joined in."

He added: "Eventually, because people were near death, the military caved and let us set up a prisoner welfare council of six prisoners."

Jamil el Banna, another British resident, described how the guards were again searching the Qur'an by hand, which they had agreed to stop.

Yesterday, representatives of George Bush's government appeared before the US court of appeal to stop legal bids on behalf of dozens of Guantánamo Bay detainees, who say they are not being afforded an opportunity to challenge their status as enemy combatants.

The Pentagon says it is holding 505 prisoners at Guantánamo Bay.

Most were captured in Afghanistan following the US invasion in October 2001 and many have been there since January 2002.

Last night a Pentagon spokesman denied that there were more than 200 hunger strikers: "There are 76 detainees doing a voluntary fast at present. There are nine detainees in hospital as a result of their hunger strike.

"They are listed as being in a stable condition and they are recieving nutrition."

Asked if they were being force fed, he said: "They are being held in the same standards as US prison standards... they don't allow people to kill themselves via starvation."

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msolga
 
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Reply Fri 9 Sep, 2005 02:41 am
Thanks for that post, Walter. This is news to me. Looks like they're being forcefed while the authorities keep a lid on publicity. Terrible situation!
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 9 Sep, 2005 10:35 am
Quote:
White House Defends Course on Detainees

By PETE YOST
Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON (AP) -- A federal appeals court on Thursday questioned the Bush administration's operations at Guantanamo Bay, where almost all detainees were categorized by military tribunals as enemy combatants.

The two hours of arguments were in sharp contrast to those of nearly three years ago when the appeals court suggested that the detainees at Guantanamo Bay were not entitled to have access to the U.S. courts, and subsequently ruled against them. The U.S. Supreme Court reversed that decision a year ago.

On Thursday, the court suggested the judiciary might have the legal authority to become involved in reviewing the tribunal procedures.

"There is nothing in the habeas statute that requires us to defer to a military tribunal," said Appeals Judge A. Raymond Randolph, an appointee of President Bush's father.

Randolph was on the panel in 2003 that rejected the detainees' plea for access to U.S. courts. The other judges on the current panel are David Sentelle, an appointee of President Reagan, and Judith Rogers, an appointee of President Clinton.

Deputy Assistant Attorney General Gregory Katsas outlined the Bush administration's position that the detainees have no Fifth Amendment right to due process because they are aliens held outside the sovereign territory of the United States.

But "there's still the question of whether they are lawfully detained," said Randolph. Randolph pointed out that detainees are asserting that they have no connection to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks or to al-Qaida.

Katsas said the detainees are afforded many rights by the tribunals, which ruled that all but 38 of 596 detainees were enemy combatants and were not entitled to prisoner-of-war protections under the Geneva Conventions.
The detainees are not allowed to have legal representation before the tribunals and cannot see classified information being used to categorize them as enemy combatants.

While questioning the government closely, the court seemed skeptical of arguments by the detainees' lawyers that U.S. courts have authority to become deeply enmeshed in reviewing the tribunal process.

The judges said that last year's Supreme Court ruling was on the question of jurisdiction, meaning that it was opening the U.S. courts to the detainees without specifying the extent to which courts could involve themselves in detainee issues.

Jurisdiction was "the beginning, the middle and the end" of the Supreme Court's decision, said Rogers.

The detainees' lawyers pointed to a footnote in last year's Supreme Court opinion that said their complaints "unquestionably describe custody in violation of the Constitution or laws or treaties of the United States."

Evidence of detainee abuse at Guantanamo Bay has put the administration on the defensive and the government is trying to deal with the problem by downsizing the prison camp, returning many of the detainees to their home countries.

In the meantime, the government has dug in for a protracted legal battle, defending the course it set in late 2001 with President Bush's declaration that all suspected terrorists are enemy combatants rather than POWs.

After last year's Supreme Court ruling, the Pentagon hurriedly set up the tribunals of U.S. military officers who reviewed the detainees' status.

Lower court judges are divided on the detainee procedures at Guantanamo Bay. U.S. District Judge Joyce Hens Green ruled that the tribunal hearings are unconstitutional. U.S. District Judge Richard Leon threw out a lawsuit by some of the detainees, saying the place for them to challenge the procedures is before the U.S. military, not in civilian courts.

The Pentagon says it is holding 505 prisoners at the Guantanamo Bay prison compound. Many were captured in Afghanistan in the months following the U.S. invasion in October 2001, and some have been there since the detention compound was opened in January 2002.

© 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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