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YAY!!!!!!

 
 
FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 12:32 pm
jpinMilwaukee wrote:
Only if you you think that every life, no matter how bad, is worth saving


No. You can agree that the life was not worth saving, or even that the action was necessary, without taking pleasure in it.

But my objective has been met as I've succesfully pissed all over the parade. Thank you, and goodnight.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 12:32 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Well, some kind of primitive-medieval spectacle certainly will entertain some simple minds.

Of course the European powers never fight wars, and if they did fight one, they would never be so primitive as to hope to win.


I don't know how you concluded this from my respose.

But this is certainly due to my origin, my bad education and lack of knowledge.
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 12:34 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
But my objective has been met as I've succesfully pissed all over the parade. Thank you, and goodnight.


Well aren't you cool.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 12:34 pm
No. But I am satisfied.
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 12:35 pm
What ever helps you sleep at night.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 12:37 pm
Believe me, it helps tremendously.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 12:40 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
That celebrating death, taking pleasure in it, is repulsive.

You are apparently much wiser that the billions of your peers and predecessors who have been pleased with victory in war since the dawn of time.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 12:42 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
FreeDuck wrote:
That celebrating death, taking pleasure in it, is repulsive.

You are apparently much wiser that the billions of your peers and predecessors who have been pleased with victory in war since the dawn of time.


While watching the horrible, one-sided slaughter of Yankees at Fredericksburg, Lee is reported to have said: "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it." Apparently not everyone has universally shared your sentiments.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 12:42 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
FreeDuck wrote:
That celebrating death, taking pleasure in it, is repulsive.

You are apparently much wiser that the billions of your peers and predecessors who have been pleased with victory in war since the dawn of time.


Brandon, thank you for explaining to me how victory = death and vice versa. I think I've got it now.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 12:49 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
But my objective has been met as I've succesfully pissed all over the parade. Thank you, and goodnight.


Your pee runneth off our parade like water off your back.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6578/nahnah5aw.gif
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 12:51 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
FreeDuck wrote:
But my objective has been met as I've succesfully pissed all over the parade. Thank you, and goodnight.


Your pee runneth off our parade like water off your back.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6578/nahnah5aw.gif


But the smell remains.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6578/nahnah5aw.gif
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 12:57 pm
That would be your moral righteousness. http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6578/nahnah5aw.gif
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 12:59 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
FreeDuck wrote:
But my objective has been met as I've succesfully pissed all over the parade. Thank you, and goodnight.


Your pee runneth off our parade like water off your back.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6578/nahnah5aw.gif


But the smell remains.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6578/nahnah5aw.gif


Yep ... I can smell you guys coming for miles, and you're right -- when you leave the smell doesn't.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6578/nahnah5aw.gif
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 01:00 pm
I prefer "your highness" but "your moral righteousness" has a nice ring to it.
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 01:01 pm
Ticomaya wrote:

Yep ... I can smell you guys coming for miles, and you're right -- when you leave the smell doesn't.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6578/nahnah5aw.gif


Look! I've multiplied!
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 01:04 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:

Yep ... I can smell you guys coming for miles, and you're right -- when you leave the smell doesn't.

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6578/nahnah5aw.gif


Look! I've multiplied!


There seems to be a flush of you all around me at times.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 01:12 pm
Setanta wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
FreeDuck wrote:
That celebrating death, taking pleasure in it, is repulsive.

You are apparently much wiser that the billions of your peers and predecessors who have been pleased with victory in war since the dawn of time.


While watching the horrible, one-sided slaughter of Yankees at Fredericksburg, Lee is reported to have said: "It is well that war is so terrible, lest we grow too fond of it." Apparently not everyone has universally shared your sentiments.

I guess that hearing about a victory and watching it would be quite different. I don't think I'd like to have watched even an enemy die, but it is relatively normal to be pleased with news of victory.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 01:13 pm
FreeDuck wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
FreeDuck wrote:
That celebrating death, taking pleasure in it, is repulsive.

You are apparently much wiser that the billions of your peers and predecessors who have been pleased with victory in war since the dawn of time.


Brandon, thank you for explaining to me how victory = death and vice versa. I think I've got it now.

How did you imagine one achieved victory in a war? I'm all ears.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 01:14 pm
You are apparently, Brandon, unable to grasp the distinction between being pleased and crowing about something. I'm not surprised, though, that you are content to view war from a distance--it's easier to express certitude about such matters from an armchair, when able to keep ugly realities at arm's length.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 01:22 pm
Quote:
So what was your intended point on the last page where you allege us "turkeys.. are being jerked around by" our "chain"?

You are at the receiving end of a sophisticated marketing operation. The marketed product in this case is the war in Iraq, more broadly the "war on terror", or presently in the specific, progress in the war.

Consider Pat Tillman, Jessica Lynch, Cindy Sheehan or Jack Abramoff. All these stories packed a whallop in great part because they personalize and simplify the abstract or the complex.

Conversely, when something goes bad or wrong, you will want to flip this over and depersonalize - make the personal into the abstract and complex. You don't see caskets because that personalizes soldier deaths...bad for marketing the product. You don't see photos of blown up people because that personalizes those Iraqis or Americans. Abramoff becomes a depersonalized abstraction - everyone is corrupt.

Your administration is not dumb about this stuff (the first TV marketing guru was brought into the Eisenhower administration to manipulate perceptions). Consider the instances where an individual or family or a mother etc is brought forward into the PR limelight. Consider the instances where they are kept out. Fox has done how many interviews with Sheehan or the Tillman family?

So, Zarqawi becomes a handy personalized demon to replace Sadaam and kids. The real complexity of the insurgency falls out of view.

And that's why the cheers here are probably more significant for what they tell us about the marketing of the war and the credulity of you folks rather than about any positive change - which will be suggested ("turning a corner") but which is predictable fascade worked out in a multi-million dollar media center.
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