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Ann Coulter Attacks 9/11 Widows

 
 
yitwail
 
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Reply Thu 15 Jun, 2006 03:06 pm
maybe we haven't heard of him because he retracted his remarks the next day, and numerous Democrats, in particular John Kerry, disassociated themselves from his site.

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XXXX DRUDGE RETORT XXXX 20:09:05 EST APR 04 2004 XXXX

Kerry campaign repudiates blogger's remarks about Fallujah victims!

By Rogers Cadenhead
**Drudge Retort**

In a move comparable to Bill Clinton's condemnation of Sister Souljah in 1992, John Kerry's presidential campaign has publicly repudiated the Daily Kos weblog over remarks publisher Markos Zuniga made about the contractors killed in Iraq.

"In light of the unacceptable statement about the death of Americans made by Daily Kos, we have removed the link to this blog from our website," Kerry's weblog announced late Saturday night.


http://www.drudge.com/2004/20040404.php
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 03:23 am
boomerang wrote:
Ann Coulter is one scary, millionaire, celebrity seeking broad.

LOVE her; she 's good !
David
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 03:32 am
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maybe we haven't heard of him because he retracted his remarks the next day, and numerous Democrats, in particular John Kerry, disassociated themselves from his site.


I'm sure there were several of those paragons of civility in the GOP who have spoken out about the lack of class in Ann's remarks. I'm sure there were.

Joe(er..ah)Nation
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BernardR
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 03:40 am
I have never railed against a writer in my life but I will now. Ann Coulter's ugly and unkind remarks about grieving and innocent widows is so far off the mark that we must put her comments in the area of yelling fire in a crowded theater. Suppose one of the women becomes ill because of Coulter's animus?

The next president of the United States, Hillary Rodham Clinton, will handle Ann Coulter. Mrs. Clinton doesn't like loud mouthed viragoes who think they know everything. She will trim Coulter's feathers, she will!!!!
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yitwail
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 07:01 am
Joe Nation wrote:
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maybe we haven't heard of him because he retracted his remarks the next day, and numerous Democrats, in particular John Kerry, disassociated themselves from his site.


I'm sure there were several of those paragons of civility in the GOP who have spoken out about the lack of class in Ann's remarks. I'm sure there were.

Joe(er..ah)Nation


maybe they're speechless with indignation. Rolling Eyes
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 07:07 am
Boy howdy, BernardR, that was some railing you did there. Wow. You got a little distracted at the end, something about viragoes or Audis or Smithers being trimmed (Did you mean Dagwood's boss's job is being outsourced?)

Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks.

Joe(You're the top, maybe even over it)Nation
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yitwail
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 07:35 am
incidentally, joe, after Ted Rall's infamous Terror Widows cartoon, which i reproduced many pages back, came out, the NY Times, that bastion of liberalism, dropped Rall's strip.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 08:22 am
yitwail wrote:
incidentally, joe, after Ted Rall's infamous Terror Widows cartoon, which i reproduced many pages back, came out, the NY Times, that bastion of liberalism, dropped Rall's strip.


The New York Times is a newspaper. It is neither a bastion of liberalism, if it was it would have never printed all of Judy's rah-rah weapons of mass destruction articles boosting the war, nor a paragon of perfection, please see the list of reporter's mis-steps, goofs and frauds. It is, for it's readers, a newspaper trying to get the facts right on the events of the day. It does not always succeed hence the Corrections column on page two every day which sometimes runs three columns wide.

That said, the New York Times could not have dropped Rall's strip or anyone else's because, much to my chagrin because I am a big fan of political art, it does not print cartoons of any kind in it's daily pages. Exceptions are made for exceptional work and are sometimes included in the Sunday Week in Review graphics, but there is no scheduled cartoon publishing in the Paper of Record.

Uh... wait... .


Yes. I know. There are links to cartoons now in it's online edition, but is that what you were referring to or was it the printed edition?

Joe(I saw my first Oliphant cartoon when I was nine. I was hooked)Nation
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yitwail
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 09:09 am
it would be online, yes. should have put "bastion of liberalism" in quotes, because i think that's how conservatives view it, i think, although they may use a more colorful word than bastion. Laughing
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 09:16 am
Razz
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blueflame1
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 09:21 am
Latest Ann Coulter Outrage: On Fragging John Murtha

By E&P Staff

Published: June 15, 2006 11:55 PM ET

NEW YORK With the brief debate over Iraq in Congress producing such acrimony this week that one congressman suggested opponents of the war support al-Qaeda, it should come as no surprise that columnist and author Ann Coulter would top them all.

In an email interview with John Hawkins at the Right Wing News web site, Coulter was asked, among other things, to offer short comments on several individuals. After harmlessly dismissing former Ambassador Joseph Wilson as the "World's most intensely private exhibitionist," she said of Rep. John Murtha, the hawkish ex-Marine and now antiwar congressman: "The reason soldiers invented 'fragging.'"

Fragging, which became a well-known expression --and occurence -- during the Vietnam war, means soldiers attempting to kill their own officers for one reason or another.

This was so over the top that conservative Mike Krempasky at RedState.org posted, "I've said before that's its kind of ironic that just about every phrase Stewie from Family Guy uses to describe Lois could easily be applied to Ann Coulter. Well - once again, Ann proves us right." He went on to call her "fragging" remark absolutely "disgusting....there's no excuse - NONE - for the allusion to soldiers who kill other soldiers. It's despicable - and frankly, so is Coulter."

Coulter's column is syndicated by Universal Press Syndicate. On its home page, Universal hails her "witty, no-holds-barred commentaries on the Washington scene. She tackles the hot issues with fervor and stands up for the things that she believes in."
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 09:59 am
She keeps her fan base chuckling, I'm sure, with comments like that. She's best ignored, including in forums like this...
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 10:35 am
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http://newyorkmetro.com/news/media/17209/index1.html

Always a good read there lately.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 10:43 am
There's a point, D'art, where ignoring becomes an insufficient response. Though this individual has demonstrated herself to be as uninterested in truth and as dangerous to civil discourse as Joe McCarthy, she continues to gain high profile media placement. NBC won't ignore her because they clearly perceive it to be in their financial and political interests to provide prime media space for her. a2k and all the other venues like it have little effect on national discourse, being mainly a reflection of it rather than a causal factor. Prime time TV is something else.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 11:32 am
You're no doubt right, blatham. I guess I'm just fed up with seeing her name in print, including virtually, and feel like she's pulling our strings...
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 11:41 am
d'art

She is pulling our strings, and I'm sick of her name and face too.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 11:54 am
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June 15, 2006
Coulter's Critics Have Proved Her Point
By Mark Davis


So, what are we going to about this Ann Coulter woman?

Clearly, some resolution must be carved out, because people are being thrown into fits by some excerpts from her new book, Godless: The Church of Liberalism.

If you're not familiar with Ms. Coulter, you should know that she is on a bit of a tear with one-word book titles that crystallize her take on the landscape of liberalism. There is Slander, which chronicles the cruel and false charges often launched by the left toward those who disagree; then came Treason, her thesis that the left too often leans toward America's enemies.

No shrinking violet, this woman. But while her past work has brought the natural grumblings of those who disagree, this book has sent people over the edge, inviting the question: Who has gone too far, Ms. Coulter or her critics?

Interestingly, the firestorm does not revolve around the book's main thrust, that liberalism (as opposed to all liberals, she would tell you) has become radically secular. It is instead about observations she has made about the so-called "Jersey Girls," widows of 9/11 victims who have attempted to parlay properly earned sympathy into unearned clout as experts in fields from politics to national security.

We have learned that they question President Bush's leadership, which they are entitled to do. Some campaigned for John Kerry, which they are entitled to do. They have criticized the priorities of the war on terror, which they are entitled to do.

What they are not entitled to is one speck of credibility on 9/11 issues beyond any other women in New Jersey - or men in Idaho, or anyone of any sex in between.

There is nothing in bereavement that yields additional wisdom on the nuts and bolts of how our nation has responded since 9/11. Ms. Coulter is fairly blunt on this matter, and that's what has people freaking out.

"These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by grief-arazzis," she writes. "These self-obsessed women seemed genuinely unaware that 9/11 was an attack on our nation and acted as if the terrorist attacks happened only to them. ... I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much."

Since I have been known to actually speak with Ms. Coulter on various occasions, my e-mail box instantly swelled with taunts demanding that I either embrace or condemn her on this matter.

So, would I have said what she said? The answer is no.

I would not have called them "broads."

OK, the whole approach really isn't my style. I would not have referred to them as "enjoying" their loss. But exploiting it? Seeking to morph it into attention miles beyond the requisite sympathy we all have for them? Absolutely.

Predictably, partisans for whom Kristin Breitweiser, Lorie van Auken, Mindy Kleinberg and Patty Casazza became heroes will hear no criticism of them. They will say with feigned horror that the Coulter remarks are beyond some line they have established for mannerly debate.

Yet, somehow, I don't think these same people were as shocked when senators like Ted Kennedy and Dick Durbin equated U.S. troops with Nazis and torturers, or when choruses from the left are more offended by Halliburton than by Saddam Hussein.

But in the calls for Ms. Coulter's head, her critics have proved her right. From Cindy Sheehan, whose lunatic ravings cannot be criticized because she lost a son in the war, to John Murtha, who is untouchable because he once wore the uniform he now defames, the left is fond of offering up "human shields" with life stories designed to spark instant derision for anyone suggesting they might be mistaken.

Ms. Coulter does in prose what editorial cartoonists do with pictures: artful exaggeration with the goal of crystallizing a political point.

If her word choice is not your cup of tea, that's fine. Don't buy the book. For me, the Michael Moore mantra that Mr. Bush is an evil idiot is a tad harsh. We all have our tastes.

So, here's the deal - let's all be big boys and girls and realize that anyone intentionally entering a vigorous arena of debate is fair game. And instead of wasting our time hand-wringing over whose style wounds our sensibilities, let's focus on who has a point and who does not.
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yitwail
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 12:14 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
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So, here's the deal - let's all be big boys and girls and realize that anyone intentionally entering a vigorous arena of debate is fair game. And instead of wasting our time hand-wringing over whose style wounds our sensibilities, let's focus on who has a point and who does not.


the last time the "fair game" excuse was employed in a political context was in regard to Mary Cheney being outed as a lesbian. seems to me inflammatory language like that impedes focusing on a point, nor do i buy the "artful exaggeration" rationale: what's artful about "broad?"
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 12:48 pm
yitwail wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:
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So, here's the deal - let's all be big boys and girls and realize that anyone intentionally entering a vigorous arena of debate is fair game. And instead of wasting our time hand-wringing over whose style wounds our sensibilities, let's focus on who has a point and who does not.


the last time the "fair game" excuse was employed in a political context was in regard to Mary Cheney being outed as a lesbian. seems to me inflammatory language like that impedes focusing on a point, nor do i buy the "artful exaggeration" rationale: what's artful about "broad?"


I don't recall Mary Cheney being a political activist. She was guilty of being the Vice president's daughter. Does that make her fair game?
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Fri 16 Jun, 2006 12:51 pm
Excuse me, McGentrix, but you might want to have a look at Mary's resume.

Joe(see GOP positions held)Nation
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