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Why do you still support Bush?

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 11:07 am
ticomaya, Show us how many on a2k have used "radical right?"
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 11:09 am
And Tico, I really don't laugh about the term radical right: I don't think this position to be amusing at all.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 11:20 am
Sen. Bayh: Middle Class Leaving Democrats in Droves


Sen. Evan Bayh, weighing a run for president in 2008, challenged the Democratic Party to establish an agenda aimed at middle-class voters, a critical constituency that he said the party has let slip away.


"We may consider ourselves the party of the middle class, but too many middle-class Americans no longer consider us their party," the Indiana Democrat said Monday. "They have left the Democratic Party in droves - costing us the last two presidential elections and the last six congressional elections. If we don't learn some lessons, we'll lose in 2006 and 2008 as well, and we must not let that happen."


In his speech, Bayh said the party has focused most of its attention on the needs of lower-income Americans, but it also must address issues that matter to people on the next rung up the economic ladder.


"Without an agenda that speaks directly to the middle class and all who aspire to it, we will no longer be the party of Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy and Clinton. And we will not be a majority party," Bayh said, invoking the names of former Democratic presidents.


Moreover, Bayh said: "The country's not going to fulfill it's potential."



The two-term senator and former Indiana governor delivered what his advisers called a "major address" in Washington and then in Iowa, the first caucus state in the presidential primary process.


Bayh has been a frequent visitor to Iowa as he decides whether to seek the Democratic presidential nomination in what already is considered a crowded field. A recent state poll showed him trailing far behind other potential Democratic contenders.


Bayh dismissed the results, saying polls change over time, and acknowledged that he's considering running for president. He said that should he decide to run, creating opportunities for the middle class will be a focus of his campaign.

"I'm going to make it the centerpiece, not the afterthought," Bayh said as he laid out proposals for making college more affordable, curtailing rising health care costs, strengthening retirement accounts and conserving energy - a full 18 months before the Iowa caucuses.



© 2006 Associated Press.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 11:22 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
And Tico, I really don't laugh about the term radical right: I don't think this position to be amusing at all.


Yes, Walter ... that's my point.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 11:24 am
Rex, Here you go again! You're not keeping up with the major news, and relying on one politician to support your rhetoric.

Most of the polls now show many republicans will be voting for democrats in the next election cycle.

A complete reversal of your post.

Don't stop, though; it provides us a lot of laughs.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 11:27 am
Here's a USA Today article on this very SUBJECT.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 11:30 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
Rex, Here you go again! You're not keeping up with the major news, and relying on one politician to support your rhetoric.

Most of the polls now show many republicans will be voting for democrats in the next election cycle.

A complete reversal of your post.

Don't stop, though; it provides us a lot of laughs.


You forget I voted for Gore then for Bush, I will be voting republican this next election too.

No more wishy washy double talk from the dems for me.

The dems have shown they have no credibility to present themselves as a party with a "plan" other than "impeach Bush" or "anybody but Bush".

THAT does not cut it in my "book"...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 11:33 am
Rex wrote:
No more wishy washy double talk from the dems for me.

The dems have shown they have no credibility to present themselves as a party with a "plan" other than "impeach Bush" or "anybody but Bush".

THAT does not cut it in my "book"...


I thnk the world is going to end; I'm in total agreement with Rex on this.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 11:35 am
Rex, People on the right keep calling be a "liberal," but I'm planning on voting for John McCain in 2008. Poor souls are confused and lost.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 11:45 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
Rex wrote:
No more wishy washy double talk from the dems for me.

The dems have shown they have no credibility to present themselves as a party with a "plan" other than "impeach Bush" or "anybody but Bush".

THAT does not cut it in my "book"...


I thnk the world is going to end; I'm in total agreement with Rex on this.


Are you fishing?

I don't believe the world is going to end that soon.

Only God knows the hour. I am hoping and believing that we may someday inhabit the stars and leave all of this hatred and bigotry behind us somehow.

Peace with God
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 11:50 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
Rex, People on the right keep calling be a "liberal," but I'm planning on voting for John McCain in 2008. Poor souls are confused and lost.


I am not sure if I am that comfortable with McCain (Maybe with Jeb as a VP). I will see how John carries himself in the primaries and then decide.

I would really prefer McCain as a VP but he can be a bit of an obstructionist himself.

Although his objection is not always that off the mark.
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okie
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 11:58 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
Rex, People on the right keep calling be a "liberal," but I'm planning on voting for John McCain in 2008. Poor souls are confused and lost.


imposter, are you sane? After lambasting and calling Bush every name in the book, from moron to everything else imagineable, and posting reams of stuff nobody reads, at least I don't, you now say you are going to vote for John McCain! Well, could have fooled me. I thought McCain was a supporter of Bush, especially the war? Add to the list of imposter's personality traits, in big bold letters, "EXTREMELY INCONSISTENT."
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 12:04 pm
okie, People like you will always be confused about how other people look at presidents and potential presidents. FYI, McCain is not Bush, and Bush is not McCain. See the difference?
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 12:24 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
okie, People like you will always be confused about how other people look at presidents and potential presidents. FYI, McCain is not Bush, and Bush is not McCain. See the difference?


Hitler is not Bush either...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 12:27 pm
Rex wrote:
Hitler is not Bush either...

But some people are comparing Bush to Hitler...whether that has any truism is only in the eye of the beholder.
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NickFun
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 12:33 pm
Bush could be considered a small-scale Hitler. He attacked a country without provocation and killed 150,000 innocent people so far. He has bankrupted the US and eliminated many of our civil liberties. I hope this is how history remembers him.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 12:34 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Rex wrote:
Hitler is not Bush either...

But some people are comparing Bush to Hitler...whether that has any truism is only in the eye of the beholder.


I believe it is you who has been comparing Bush to Hitler.

So reverse the logic and you end up with egg on your face.

When it is "anything but Bush" you might as well be comparing him to green beans.

This displays a mental disorder CI described as, "obstructionism due to blind impartiality".

George Bush is green beans so he should be impeached!
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 12:40 pm
Rex, What you believe and what is fact are at two different poles. Show me where I have said "Bush is Hilter?"
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 12:40 pm
NickFun wrote:
Bush could be considered a small-scale Hitler. He attacked a country without provocation and killed 150,000 innocent people so far. He has bankrupted the US and eliminated many of our civil liberties. I hope this is how history remembers him.


Terrorism on our soil is provocation. You are thinking pre 9/11. The world has changed. We must change with it or be exterminated by radical Islam.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 18 Jul, 2006 12:44 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Rex, What you believe and what is fact are at two different poles. Show me where I have said "Bush is Hilter?"


You just implied it ten minutes ago.

An implication is only a shade away from an accusation.
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