Question
If you stand against (and if necessary are prepared to fight against) political Islamism (for Sharia'a law, establishment of the Caliphate etc.) is one automatically
1. A right wing neocon?
2. A left wing secularist?
3. Racist?
To me Islamism is a repressive, intoleratant violent creed similar to fascism.
Yet it seems one cannot criticise political Islamism without being automatically branded a racist or right wing bigot.
Attempts by the government to combat the growth of Islamic extremism among a minority of young Muslims are only making the situation worse, a report by an independent think-tank said on Monday.
Research by Policy Exchange found that young British Muslims were much more likely to be influenced by a political form of Islam than their parents because of changes to society and loss of shared national identity.
The government's attempts to engage with the country's 1.8 million Muslims were failing because it treated Muslims as a homogenous group, leaving some feeling excluded and ignored.
There is clearly some frustration among some young people - but it is often impossible to work out exactly where that is directed and what is to become of it.
So to talk of the emergence of a monolithic British-Muslim world view that is a danger to society is wide of the mark.
Analysis: Muslim political views
Monday, 29 January 2007
BBC News home affairs
What do young Muslims think? That is the issue at the heart of a comprehensive and nuanced poll from Policy Exchange, a right-leaning think tank.
Its report looks at attitudes among Muslims - but its conclusions and warnings need to be carefully unpicked.
Polling company Populus surveyed 1,003 Muslims in the UK and the results support the theory that Muslim identity is strengthening.
Almost nine out of 10 said that their faith was the most important thing in their lives. Some 35% said they would send children to an Islamic school if they had a choice with younger Muslims more likely to say so that older generations.
When asked if they had as much in common with non-Muslims as their co-religionists, older Muslims were more likely to say that they did.
'Modern' Sharia
Some 37% of 16-24-year-olds said they would like to live under Sharia (Islamic) law. Some 7% of the same age group said they "admired organisations like al-Qaeda that are prepared to fight the West".
Almost three quarters of 16-24s said they would prefer women to wear a veil or headscarf, compared with a majority of over-55s being against.
What this points towards is a growing religiosity - and also a political dimension to that identity. But the devil is in the detail.
Take Sharia, for example. Sharia tends to be perceived in the West as an exceptionally cruel punishment system. The reality is that Sharia represents the entire swathe of Islam's equivalent of common law - the rules than underpin society.
It is a lot more complicated than a narrow debate on amputations and public executions in some questionable regimes.
And for most Muslims, it comes into their lives in the realms of family law, Halal food, finance and a general code of behaviour.
So while 37% of the younger age group said they would like to live under Sharia (which the question left undefined) exactly the same proportion said they would also like to see it interpreted to reflect "modern ideas about human rights, equality for women and tolerance of religious conversion".
In other words - they like their faith - but would like some more relevant guidance into how to apply it to their modern lives.
Some 48% of respondents said that British society offers "strong moral and cultural values" - although some 45% said it did not.
And just to make the story even more complicated - more Muslims supported free speech than members of the general population - an issue right at the heart of the Danish Mohammed cartoons row of last year.
Looking for meaning
And it is the tension at the heart of these answers - between a yearning for something to believe in and the seeking for meaning in world events -that is the most important part of the report.
Of the 72 people who said they supported "organisations like Al Qaeda", more than half agreed that Britain offers "strong moral and cultural values" - hardly the rhetoric of Osama bin Laden.
Furthermore, only a narrow majority of this group believed they had more in common with Muslims abroad than non-Muslims at home. A fifth also said the West was not to blame for the world's problems.
The poll found foreign policy was the biggest issue at the ballot box - but some three-quarters of the respondents could name neither the head of the Palestinian Authority nor the Israeli Prime Minister.
Key messages
Anecdotal evidence from the grassroots of many Muslim communities shows without a doubt that there is more politicisation and awakening of a stronger more affirmed religious identity. But those religious identities and political views are many and varied.
There is clearly some frustration among some young people - but it is often impossible to work out exactly where that is directed and what is to become of it.
So to talk of the emergence of a monolithic British-Muslim world view that is a danger to society is wide of the mark.
The Policy Exchange report does not talk in such terms and well-placed Muslim thinkers (as opposed to "community leaders") who are now advising government and the security services say this is a key message that ministers need to take on board.
They say the trick is to pick off the extremists while responding to the key local causes of concern that can and do play a part in creating wedges - such as jobs and education. At the same time, they say, that political-religious identity will come down to a long-fought battle for hearts and minds.
Which brings us to what government itself should be doing in the short-term.
The report argues that government is mistakenly making policy for religious identity, rather than citizens. This serves the views of cliques that have an interest in preventing integration and propagating their own world view.
This argument is not discounted by Muslims thinkers who are trying to influence policy.
But they also warn that the last thing that government should do is decide that religious identity cannot exist as a legitimate and useful component of citizenship.
Critically, many say that little can be done to tackle extremism without first dealing with what they say are the big issues that affect many Muslim communities - jobs, education, housing and discrimination.
The danger, they argue, is that alienation will worsen if Britain reacts against outward expressions of faith - while failing to act on the issues that really concern Muslims.
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Behind these hopelessly vague terms such as "multiculturalism" (boo-word for the right) and "Islamophobia" (boo-word for the left) is a deeply worrying reality, which these conservative reports, like others from thinktanks of the left, do an important job of probing. That reality is one of far-reaching alienation among younger British Muslims. In an NOP poll last year, less than half the British Muslims interviewed identified Britain as "my country". An international poll by Pew showed that younger British Muslims overwhelmingly put their religious identity before their national one, unlike French Muslims. A Populus poll commissioned for the well-researched and thought-provoking Policy Exchange report shows a majority of British Muslims saying they have more in common with Muslims in other countries than they do with non-Muslims in Britain.
Shockingly, more than one in three of the 16-24 age group in the Populus poll agree with a formulation of sharia law, saying that "Muslim conversion is forbidden and punishable by death". At the extreme, this alienation from the country in which they live was expressed by the July 7 2005 suicide bombers and those arrested while allegedly planning an attack last summer. Perhaps we will find similar biographical elements among some of those arrested in Birmingham yesterday. Around the small hard core of active extremists there is what Shamit Saggar, writing in the latest Political Quarterly, calls a "circle of tacit support" that embraces tens of thousands of young British Muslims. Their alienation is exacerbated by the negative stereotyping of Muslims in the media and experiences of everyday prejudice.
The "multiculturalism" slogan of the right is crude shorthand for the worrying facts of separation. These are the "parallel lives" identified in the 2001 Cantle report, which memorably quoted a British Muslim of Pakistani origin: "When I leave this meeting with you, I will go home and not see another white face until I come back here next week." Ghettoes is the less polite term. This separation, which is cultural and psychological as much as physical, was not originally created by policies of multiculturalism, but what went by the name of multiculturalism in some British cities in the 80s and 90s did reinforce the separation. It privileged group identities, defined by origins or religion, over British or individual ones. It did not bring home to the children of Muslim immigrants any strong sense of shared Britishness. And it sometimes allowed the oppression of women to continue under the cloak of cultural respect.
If the French went to one extreme, of attempted monocultural integration, we in Britain erred in the other direction. Cameron and Gordon Brown both agree that a correction is called for. At a minimum, the English language, British history and the core values of citizenship should be better conveyed. But there are tough calls they are shying away from. Take, for example, the contribution of faith schools to cultural separation. The Cantle report recommended that at least 25% of places in single-faith schools, be they state or private, should be given to children of alternative backgrounds. Why is it, I wonder, that we don't hear either Cameron or Brown calling for that recommendation to be implemented? One can just imagine how their middle-class voters would react to the prospect of Muslim children being bused in to the London Oratory school.
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But as Walter noted just now, you suddenly changed terminology here - from talk about "Muslims" and "Islam" to talk about "Islamism".
With that shift, though you surely did not intend it, you tracked right onto my position on this.
I see Islamism (fundamentalism, Muslim extremism, whatever) as a dangerous, totalitarian ideology that poses a real threat, foremost to the populations of the Arab countries themselves, and secondary, to the rest of the world.
But I loathe talk that flows into equating Islamism with Islam, and see the pigeonholing of all things Muslim as some kind of insidious manifestation of the Islamist threat, not just as unfair and discriminatory, but as dangerously counterproductive.
Quote:Cameron and Gordon Brown both agree that a correction is called for. At a minimum, the English language, British history and the core values of citizenship should be better conveyed.
Cuts to English provision will hit migrants, report warns
Wednesday January 31, 2007
EducationGuardian.co.uk
[A]n Audit Commission report [acknowledged] today [..] that changes to the way English for speakers of other languages (Esol) is funded, due to come into effect later this year, could make it harder for migrant workers to access classes. They already struggle to attend lessons because of unpredictable work patterns, said the report.
From September, migrant workers and asylum seekers over the age of 19 will no longer be entitled to free English classes. Only young people and those who have been given permanent leave to remain in the UK and receiving unemployment or income-based benefits will be entitled to automatic fee remission.
The government said the changes were in response to the increased demand for Esol courses and the financial burden that this has placed on education budgets. Over the last six years, demand for Esol courses has tripled. In 2004-05, the government spent £279m on lessons (up from £170m in 2001-02) to fund 538,700 places.
However, the changes have been met with widespread opposition from teachers, charities and trade unions, who are concerned they will harm people on low wages, women reliant on family members for support and asylum seekers who have to wait a long time for a decision on their claim. The campaigners are to lobby government on the issue on February 28. [..]
The commission report criticised current Esol provision, saying that the range, quality and availability of classes, as well as a lack of experienced teachers, acted as a barrier to education. [..]
In Leeds, Britain, a gang of white teenagers were found guilty of the racist murder of an Asian taxi driver beaten to death last year.
Mohammad Parvaiz, a 41-year-old father of three, suffered 23 separate injuries in the attack.
Superintendent Forber said the murderers' main motivation was retribution. A few weeks earlier, the scooter of one of them had been damaged in a confrontation with Asian youths.
The gang mistakenly thought Parvaiz had been involved because he had been hired to drop off the Asian youths.
After the murder, 2,000 taxi drivers went on strike as a show of solidarity.
How racist is Britain?
Tuesday January 23, 2007
The Guardian
Events on Big Brother have ignited a fierce debate about Britain and racism. While researching his new book about the British psyche, philosopher Julian Baggini spent six months living in Rotherham, Yorkshire. Here, he explains why he doesn't believe most white Britons are racists - even though he heard racist language almost everywhere he went.
Many professional urbanites regarded my move to Rotherham as though I was going to Outer Mongolia. More than one joked about sending me food parcels, as though it would be impossible to get such staples as balsamic vinegar and buffalo mozzarella in Rotherham, and that life without such things would be intolerable, both of which are ludicrous suggestions. (As it turns out, Morrisons stocked plenty of exotic foodstuffs such as octopus and excellent regional sheep's milk cheese.)
'Paki." I can't honestly remember the last time I had heard that word outside of a news expose of the far right or a "hard-hitting" drama about racism. That was until my first proper conversation in Rotherham, when it was dropped into a sentence as though it were just another adjective, like "tall" or "Italian". [..]
Reading the reaction to Jade Goody's rather milder language on Celebrity Big Brother, it seems that many people are as ignorant as I was, or choose to ignore the uncomfortable truth. The mainstream British mind is not so much misunderstood as not seriously considered. To rectify this, 18 months ago I set out to examine the national "folk philosophy" - the set of beliefs and assumptions that informs how we live and how we think. To help me do this, I found the area with the closest match of household type - young and old, rich and poor, single and married - to the country as a whole. And so I ended up living for six months in S66, on the outskirts of Rotherham, South Yorkshire.
It was during my first conversation in the local pub that a former steelworker, Reg, mentioned the "Paki shop". [..] It was not part of some racist diatribe, but was simply a matter-of-fact description of the ethnic origins of the shop's proprietor. [..] Over the coming weeks, it became clear that Reg was no anomaly. I was immersing myself in everyday life, spending time in pubs, cafes, working men's clubs, shopping centres, public baths, sports stadia and betting shops. Almost everyone used the word "Paki" when referring to British Asians, yet of everyone I got to know, only Neil - happy to be described as somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun - would merit the charge of being truly racist. [..]
[T]here was a kind of innocence in their use of it that made me react less strongly than I would have imagined. There was no edge to what they were saying. [..] What the frequent mention of "Pakis" indicated to me was not that people hated all British Asians, but that there was so little mixing between the two groups that a term which would be offensive in mixed company could be frequently used without anyone minding. [..]
Social and ethnic division is a plain fact. Ethnic minority populations do concentrate in particular areas. Although mixed-race marriages are on the rise, they still comprise only 2% of all marriages. For the most part, people mix and marry with people mainly of their own cultural background, as determined by a combination of country, family origin or religion.
Britain is a patchwork of almost hermetically sealed sub-worlds, in which class as much as race is a crucial factor. This was something I felt very acutely moving from one to another. Many professional urbanites regarded my move to Rotherham as though I was going to Outer Mongolia. [see above].
We all like to feel that we are open-minded people who can be friends with anyone, and we also can probably come up with a few examples of friends who do not match our demographic profile to prove our lack of insularity. We might even be able to pull out that great British get-out-of-alleged-snobbery-free card: a working-class background. But if we are honest, the vast majority live, work and socialise overwhelmingly with people of a similar social type.
In any town, people know what it means to live in certain areas. When, for instance, another pub regular, Pete was reminded that his family came from the Valley Road, he said, "Ah, but the posh side, mind," the joke being there is no posh side. In somewhere like London, just as there are Bangladeshis in Brick Lane and Orthodox Jews in Stamford Hill, so there are literary clusters in Hampstead, media folk in Brixton, old money in South Kensington and so on. The desire to live among people you perceive to be like yourself is pretty much a human universal.
The opportunities to mix are limited because many areas remain deeply inhospitable to "outsiders". Communities are kept together both by factors pulling them in and factors keeping them out of others. What we need to realise is that on the whole, this works. Britain is a country where people of all races can get along, not because we're all such a culturally promiscuous bunch that we don't care whether our local butcher sells Cumberland sausages or halal chicken legs, but because we don't mind what others do, as long as they don't bother us with it.
[T]he best we can hope for is what has got us this far, with relatively little tension between communities: mutual tolerance. Toleration has become a dirty word in the multiculturalism debate. It is judged to be not good enough. People don't want to be tolerated, they want to be fully respected and acknowledged. Toleration implies putting up with something you don't much like, not embracing difference.
But [..] toleration is an underrated virtue. [..] To ask everyone to embrace everyone else is clearly absurd. Toleration is the best we can do, and what's more, it works. [..]
[Extremists] are never going to embrace other cultures. Obviously there is something in them that despises difference so much that they see the worst in others. And although these extremists are rare, I would suspect that the majority are also unlikely to ever truly love the other. Getting such people to tolerate others is the only realistic way we have of making sure they don't express outright hostility. [..]
It is right that when toleration breaks down, as it did last week in the Big Brother house, that we challenge the perpetrators and protect their victims. We should also promote greater understanding so that such breakdowns are as rare as possible. But understanding is and will always be limited, not least because almost everyone - including, especially, the liberal middle classes who pride themselves on their openness - lives in a distinct social niche, largely cut off from whole sectors of society.
Toleration, in contrast, can be applied to anyone, even if you have no idea how they live and what they think.
ok clever clogs you tell me the difference. And if people are confused who's fault is that?
Today's anti-Muslim racism uncannily echoes earlier anti-semitism - both minorities abused as an alien security threat.
The alleged Birmingham plot to behead a British Muslim soldier shows that the terrorist threat is greater than ever and that the terrorists, having failed to break the British public's resolve on 7/7 are prepared to stoop to the lowest levels to impose their shocking ideology upon us.
Defeating such criminal elements will require the combined strenth of the government and the participation of Muslim communities across Britain. David Cameron's analogy between far right organisations and Muslim fundamentalists should have been at the centre of the debate long ago.
Muslim leaders now need to acknowledge that their short sightedness as shown by the complacency of the Muslim Council of Britain over the Dispatches investigation into fundamentalist preaching, has aided extremism, which now seems to be targetting law abiding Muslims.
Water meters were invented in 1851 by Wilhelm Siemens - in London. They have been in use in Germany since 1858. To liken the use of meters to a "new tax" seems astonishing for someone from a country where everyone pays exactly and only for the amount of water they use. But then again, we pay our rent by the square metre, not by the number of bedrooms.
Former BNP candidate wanted to shoot prime minister, court hears
February 14, 2007
The Guardian
A former British National party candidate who believed the country was teetering on the brink of civil war built up a stockpile of chemical explosives and weapons and told his wife that he wanted to shoot the prime minister, a court heard.
Robert Cottage, 49, had become increasingly radical since joining the far right party four years ago and was preparing for the political and financial crisis that he believed would engulf the country.
Manchester crown court heard that between January and September last year he and another BNP supporter, David Jackson, bought a large number of chemicals over the internet which if mixed correctly could create a powerful bomb.
The prosecution said that Mr Cottage also had a digital copy of the Anarchist Cookbook, a bomb-making manual, as well as crossbows and four air-rifles at his home in Colne, Lancashire.
An entry from his diary, which was read out in court yesterday, stated: "Thought for the day - the easiest way to save the country is to assassinate Tony Blair and when Prescott takes over shoot that ****** as well."
Prosecuting Louise Blackwell QC, said: "These two men together agreed to order these chemicals ... and they intended to make a bomb with them, that much ... is clear due to the information found on the computer. The bomb they intended to make would have had the ability to cause damage or cause serious injuries." [..]
The court heard how Mr Cottage's wife, Kerena, had first raised the alarm in September after becoming concerned about her husband's increasingly extreme views and the large number of chemicals arriving at their home. She said he had told her that he wanted to shoot Mr Blair and the local Liberal Democrat peer Lord Greaves.
Ms Blackwell said: "[Kerena] had concerns about his behaviour; he wanted to shoot certain members of parliament and held strong views and opinions on immigration." In a written statement read to the court Mrs Cottage added: "Rob believes there will be a civil war and the emergence of a new world order. Rob has also started stockpiling supplies ... I have seen a change in Rob since he became involved with the BNP four years ago." [..]
When officers raided the couple's home police also found a large quantity of rice, sugar and petrol that the court heard could be used as fuel in an explosive device. They also found tubs of ball-bearings which the prosecution said could be used as shrapnel.
Mr Cottage, who worked as a driver transporting people with disabilities for Lancashire county council, had also bought large amounts of food which he said would last for several years. [..]
Catholics set to pass Anglicans as leading UK church
Roman Catholicism is set to become the dominant religion in Britain for the first time since the Reformation because of massive migration from Catholic countries across the world.
The report adds that thousands of the Catholics now living in Britain are illegal immigrants.