Immigration and Racism in Britain and USA

I take it as a racist comment directed at their hosts.

If you move to a new country, it is a simple matter of respect to learn the language and culture.

This clearly isn't the case in Mexico's invasion of California and other border states.

I take it as a racist comment directed at their hosts.

cjhsa wrote:

If you move to a new country, it is a simple matter of respect to learn the language and culture.

This clearly isn't the case in Mexico's invasion of California and other border states.

I take it as a racist comment directed at their hosts.

I was cut in line at a convenience store the other day by a young man with a celophane wrapped sandwich, some chips and a drink. He was in a big hurry, and I don't know if he even saw me.

He was paying for his stuff, and I tried to get his attention, just to let him know I didn't appreciate the rudeness - just a matter of standing up for myself in a small way - didn't want to start anything, just didn't want to let it completely pass.

He seemed to completely ignore me, then the cashier looked over his shoulder to me and said "I apologize for him - he doesn't speak any English at all." Just to save face, I said "Well he has no manners, in any language", but I had already let it go - partly becasue of what I saw...

There were half a dozen of them scurrying around, trying to get back on a truck before it left them. If I had to guess I'd say they were illegals, returning to work after a lunch break. they were dirty, and looked hungry and tired. And they all made it back on the truck - the guy was pulling away when the last one jumped aboard.

Y'know what? I don't think he was being racist not to speak my language. I really think all he's had time to do so far is try to survive...

Really?

Why should I be forced to accept their culture and language?

If you move to a new country, it is a simple matter of respect to learn the language and culture.

This clearly isn't the case in Mexico's invasion of California and other border states.

I take it as a racist comment directed at their hosts.

I'd love to watch cjhsa in a conversation with some of my family in Quebec.
Man, that would be fun!

Learn french or die!

cjhsa wrote:

If you move to a new country, it is a simple matter of respect to learn the language and culture.

This clearly isn't the case in Mexico's invasion of California and other border states.

I take it as a racist comment directed at their hosts.

I don't think the labor free market gives a **** what you think. Mexicans and corporate America have a beautiful relationship.

Good luck fighting the government. Globalization is going to happen. Work harder.

Quibble over the definition of racism till your heart is content; but the Hispanic born in Texas is no more human the Hispanic born just south of there, and I'll continue to find every opinion to the contrary: racist.

OCCOM BILL wrote:

Quibble over the definition of racism till your heart is content; but the Hispanic born in Texas is no more human the Hispanic born just south of there, and I'll continue to find every opinion to the contrary: racist.

Is there anyone who ever said he was?

I think the quibbling over "racism" started with cjhsa asserting that if Hispanic immigrants dont learn the American "language and culture", they're being racist.

Dont think anyone's said that Hispanics in Texas are better than Hispanics in Mexico, not that I saw of, anyway.

If you are interested in this topic, I respectfully recommend a ground breaking book---The End of Racism by Dinesh D"Sousa.

Added to my reading list, thanks, but it will likely be a decade before I get to it.

Muslims on front line as racism rises across EU

The Independent
Stephen Castle
26 July 2006

Racism, xenophobia and far-right extremism are on the rise across Europe, according to a comprehensive survey which found that Muslim communities face mounting discrimination and prejudice.

The report, by non-governmental organisations in 20 EU countries, criticises governments for losing interest in the battle against racism, and says the political reaction to terrorist attacks has made life harder for ethnic minorities.

The inquiry by the European Network against Racism highlights a trend towards "increased tolerance for discriminatory behaviour particularly against immigrants and Muslims". It adds that "a lack of political will to address racism is sometimes evident and disturbing".

The section on the UK, compiled by the Runnymede Trust, chronicles the reaction to the July 7 terror attacks in London last year concluding that new immigration and security policies have helped create a situation in which racism has flourished.

The report on France describes immigration policies as being "at the heart of institutional racism" in the country. In Germany almost 15,000 refugees had their asylum claims revoked last year, compared with 577 in 1998.

Anti-terror crackdowns have led to racial profiling [..], the report says. "[..] The UK also reports an increase in the disproportionate use of 'stop and search' against minority groups. [..]

Across the Continent researchers found evidence that police forces have failed in their duty to investigate and prevent racist crime. "Sometimes racially motivated crime is simply not taken seriously," says the document, adding that police are "reluctant to record a crime as such, as highlighted for instance in the reports on Hungary and Lithuania. [..]"

Even more worrying is the growth of extremist political forces. The report notes: "A rise of right-wing extremism, as well as other forms of nationalism, is evident in a number of countries, such as Denmark, Sweden, Germany, Latvia, Malta and Slovak Republic.

"The use of the internet as a tool for the dissemination of racist sentiment, crime and propaganda is particularly worrying given that internet crime is not often recorded and the legal difficulties that have been experienced in challenging internet-based criminal activity."

Victims of racism range from Europe's Jewish communities to its Roma minorities. But a separate document on Islamophobia reports a dramatic increase in incidents against Muslims, particularly in France.

It says: "The rise of intolerance and discrimination towards Muslims has risen in the last year and the underlying tones of Islamophobia have infiltrated all forms of public and private lives for Muslims in Europe."