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Immigration and Racism in Britain and USA

 
 
BernardR
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jul, 2006 01:54 pm
Yes, Mr. Nimh . I wrote the posts below and you are saying that I also wrote the posts above? I wonder about your paranormal abilities. You have no idea as to who I am and how many are in my family and how many write on these threads,do you? When I can persuade my son again\ to join us on these threads, it is then you and the other left wingers will be really scratching your heads>




BernardR

BernardR wrote:
One of the most brilliant Jurists of our day( no, not Debra L A W, although she is very very erudite), Richard A. Posner, has written, in his masterwork--"Overcoming Law" points out-- [..]


BernardR wrote:
The "left wing" has the incredible "Chutzpah" to refer to "Decency" after its leader violated all standards of decency in the Oval Office of the President of the United States.

As Richard A. Posner commented in his book, an Affair of State--

"For those who think that authority depends on mystery, the shattering of the presidential mystique has been a disaster for which Clinton ought to have paid with his job"











Well, since you are a Professor, you can certainly debate can't you? or are you so frightened of me that you choose to attack me personally instead of, as one of the leading professors of Europe, destroy me with one swipe of our renown intellect.

No, you and the other pusillanimous posters will not be able to do that and I will remain on these posts pointing out to others who are not lfet wing Socialist Europeans, left wing US Liberals and others who know very little about the USA, how prejudiced and ENVIOUS Europeans reallly are.

Why do you fear me so much, Professor Nimh?

Are you so lacking in basic knowledge that you do not know that in the market place of Ideas, good ideas will drive out the inferior ones.

I will continue to post for people like Okie,Mysteryman, Ticomaya, McGentrix, foxfyre and others who are interested in debating ideas rather than inpersonal denigration>
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jul, 2006 02:00 pm
Habibi, you envious and prejudiced slut ! ! !


Just what is involved in being lfet-wing socialist?
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BernardR
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jul, 2006 02:07 pm
I am very much afraid that the learned Joe From Chicago is mistaken when he uses Albania as an example to counter my argument about homgeneity being a postive factor in the lessening of crime in a country.

I am very much afraid that the learned Joe From Chicago( Not Harvard, then maybe Nova??)does not know that his example of Albania is a poor one because it focuses on one of the poorest and most disrganized countries in the world.

I'll try to explain it to you, counselor, If a person has low blood pressure( Homogeneity of Population, It may be a very important factor in precluding heart problems, but it may not be enough if the cholesterol level ( rampant poverty and inefficent government) are very high.

Do you ever win any cases? Would you invite me to 26th and California to see how you handle the speeding ticket brigade?
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BernardR
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jul, 2006 02:12 pm
Mr. Nimh wrote:

Although this article is, as social sketches of a community's or country's "mood" tend to be, much focused on the anecdotal and impressionistic, it is a fair enough look at the question, who are Muslims in the UK today?
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That is the kind of "evidence" you get from the left wing Socialists.

Anecdotal and Impressionistic.

I give credit to Mr. Nimh for recognizing it and I must also add that it totally invalidates the usefullness of the article because of the "anecdotal and impressionistic elements>

I thought that the left wing had written off Anne Coulter because of her "Anedotal and impressionistic" comments. But now, I find that it all depends on "whose ox is being gored".
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jul, 2006 02:16 pm
there is no such thing as the Muslim community imo. Anymore than there is the English community. Muslims are a diverse bunch as that article shows. There is however a coherent religion viz Islam which makes a claim to all Muslims allegiance. I dont mind Muslims following Islam, but what I do object to is Muslims demanding that sharia'a law should apply in Britain. I first thought these politicised Islamists were nuts. Now I think they are very dangerous people.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jul, 2006 02:22 pm
Steve, That's the same way we see the right-wing fundamentalist christians in the US.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jul, 2006 02:40 pm
BernardR wrote:
I am very much afraid that the learned Joe From Chicago is mistaken when he uses Albania as an example to counter my argument about homgeneity being a postive factor in the lessening of crime in a country.

I am very much afraid that the learned Joe From Chicago( Not Harvard, then maybe Nova??)does not know that his example of Albania is a poor one because it focuses on one of the poorest and most disrganized countries in the world.

I'll try to explain it to you, counselor, If a person has low blood pressure( Homogeneity of Population, It may be a very important factor in precluding heart problems, but it may not be enough if the cholesterol level ( rampant poverty and inefficent government) are very high.

Or, in other words, homogeneity of a society does not explain low crime rates. Thanks, Bernardochiczagatto, you proved my point.

BernardR wrote:
Do you ever win any cases? Would you invite me to 26th and California to see how you handle the speeding ticket brigade?

One thing that can be said for you, Bernardomortoporter, it's that you're consistent (except, of course, for your bewildering number of screen names). Even in your childishly feeble insults, you're still wrong. Traffic tickets aren't handled at the Criminal Courts building at 2600 S. California: they're handled at Traffic Court, located at the Daley Center.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jul, 2006 03:26 pm
BernardR wrote:
Yes, Mr. Nimh . I wrote the posts below and you are saying that I also wrote the posts above? I wonder about your paranormal abilities. You have no idea as to who I am and how many are in my family and how many write on these threads,do you? When I can persuade my son again\ to join us on these threads, it is then you and the other left wingers will be really scratching your heads>

Ah, I see. I think. I'm not quite sure - are you saying that the other posters I quoted, Chiczaira, Mporter, Italgato, Septembri - that they are family of yours?

Setanta wrote:
Habibi, you envious and prejudiced slut ! ! !

Just what is involved in being lfet-wing socialist?

Being good in bed, mainly.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jul, 2006 03:32 pm
nimh wrote:

Setanta wrote:
Habibi, you envious and prejudiced slut ! ! !

Just what is involved in being lfet-wing socialist?

Being good in bed, mainly.


That's what they say, generally, I agree.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jul, 2006 03:34 pm
BernardR wrote:
Mr. Nimh posted the following:

I think something went wrong in this post of yours, Bernard. What am I supposed to have said?

As far as I can tell, what follows after your line, "Mr. Nimh posted the following", is an excerpt from an article by Norman Podhoretz in Commentary Magazine.

Perhaps you also posted the post in the wrong thread? I see no connection to the topic of racism and immigration in the US and UK in it.
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nimh
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jul, 2006 03:35 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
nimh wrote:
Setanta wrote:
Just what is involved in being lfet-wing socialist?

Being good in bed, mainly.

That's what they say, generally, I agree.

Socialdemocrats, on the other hand... Twisted Evil
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jul, 2006 03:39 pm
nimh wrote:

Socialdemocrats, on the other hand... Twisted Evil


Yes, we change hands - protects against pulled muscles.

Oh, did I tell you that we got the third place at the World Championship?
(Did your team have to go back so early and plant tulip bulbs?)
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BernardR
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jul, 2006 10:27 pm
Steve wrote:
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there is no such thing as the Muslim community imo. Anymore than there is the English community. Muslims are a diverse bunch as that article shows. There is however a coherent religion viz Islam which makes a claim to all Muslims allegiance. I dont mind Muslims following Islam, but what I do object to is Muslims demanding that sharia'a law should apply in Britain. I first thought these politicised Islamists were nuts. Now I think they are very dangerous people.




cicerone imposter wrote:


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Steve, That's the same way we see the right-wing fundamentalist christians in the US.

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Steve appears to know that the 'Politicized Islamists are very dangerous people. He apparently knows that some of the fringe elements actually believe that there will be an Apocolypse and then the 12th Imam will return so that the WHOLE WORLD can be converted to Islam. Anyone familiar with the writings of the US expert on Islam-Professor Bernard Lewis--is familiar with this.

Then, in an unbelievable bizarre statement, Mr. Imposter says that Steve's statement about the fact that the very dangerous Islam Fanatics are killers who blow up trains, cut throats, and blow up innocents are in some way EQUATED with right-wing fundamentalists.

Perhaps Mr. Imposter can reference a video in which a "right-wing fundamentalist" counsels a jihad to KILL PEOPLE!
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BernardR
 
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Reply Wed 12 Jul, 2006 10:30 pm
I am very much afraid that the learned Joe From Chicago is mistaken when he uses Albania as an example to counter my argument about homogeneity being a postive factor in the lessening of crime in a country.

I am very much afraid that the learned Joe From Chicago( Not Harvard, then maybe Nova??)does not know that his example of Albania is a poor one because it focuses on one of the poorest and most disrganized countries in the world.

I'll try to explain it to you, counselor, If a person has low blood pressure( Homogeneity of Population, It may be a very important factor in precluding heart problems, but it may not be enough if the cholesterol level ( rampant poverty and inefficent government) are very high.

What that means, dear counselor, is that although the poverty and the disorganization is present in Albania, if those factors were not present, the homogeneity of the population would work towards the lessening of the crime rate.

Are you unable to think about multi-factorials? Yes, there are many influences on any society. Homogeneity is one of them and it is A FACTOR, ONE FACTOR, which makes a society crime free.

Your refusal to accept that fact merely shows that you are arguing just to argue.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 08:04 am
There's an awful lot of Mexicans in the U.S. who aren't supposed to be here, more than any other group of illegal aliens.

If the simply act of observing this and coming to that conclusion makes me a racist, then I guess I am one. BM.

At least I don't intentionally ignore the issue or try to sugarcoat it like many here do.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 08:05 am
BernardR wrote:
What that means, dear counselor, is that although the poverty and the disorganization is present in Albania, if those factors were not present, the homogeneity of the population would work towards the lessening of the crime rate.

Or, in other words, homogeneity does not explain low crime rates. Really, Bernomassoitalogattokat, we're in agreement on this point.

BernardR wrote:
Are you unable to think about multi-factorials? Yes, there are many influences on any society. Homogeneity is one of them and it is A FACTOR, ONE FACTOR, which makes a society crime free.

Your refusal to accept that fact merely shows that you are arguing just to argue.

Here's what you said (or, at least, I think it was you -- it could have been one of the vast number of your relatives who sounds exactly like you):
    I will state EVEN BEFORE I FIND EVIDENCE THAT THERE WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT CORRELATION BETWEEN SOCIETIES THAT HAVE A HOMOGENOUS POPULATION AND ALSO HAVE LOW CRIME RATES.

But, as you point out above, other factors, such as lack of poverty and sociopolitical organization, correlate better with low crime rates. So the "SIGNIFICANT CORRELATION" that you posited between ethnic homogeneity and low crime rates turns out not to be very SIGNIFICANT at all.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 10:12 am
joe, It doesn't matter which country's history we look at, during war time or economic hardtimes, crime increases. It has very little to do with homogeneity.

When one is starving, people will turn to crime or self-destructive behavior. Parents even sell their children to prostitution. Begging and pickpockets increase as well as burglary by gunpoint. It gets very nasty.
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hamburger
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 02:38 pm
c.i. wrote :
"When one is starving, people will turn to crime or self-destructive behavior"

c.i. based upon personal experience , i would say that "self-preservation" (which would include looking after family - and possibly friends) becomes a very important part of ones life when one is hungry . that might perhaps involve crime , such as dealing on the black-market , stealing food and fuel . personally i never thought about becoming self-destructive but wanting to survive - a full belly always felt good , even if it was only a pot of boiled potatoes .
hbg
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 13 Jul, 2006 02:49 pm
hbg, There are people on this planet that never sacrifices their personal ethics or goodwill towards men no matter their hardships - and that includes all the people.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 14 Jul, 2006 03:20 pm
If you move to a new country, it is a simple matter of respect to learn the language and culture.

This clearly isn't the case in Mexico's invasion of California and other border states.

I take it as a racist comment directed at their hosts.
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