DAVID DIMBLEBY: Ehm - people say of you, of course, that you're [thrive?] on conflict because at general election time and other times you don't do so well but you get a lot of publicity during local elections in specific areas where there are problems that you, bat-, batten onto. And that is roughly the truth, isnt it?
NICK GRIFFIN: No, all, all small parties are obviously disadvantaged come big elections times, general elections times; at local elections the public can elect their, real feelings out and there are genuine concerns about issues related to immigration, asylum, and multiculturalism, and the British people - they're not just voting against the Labour party, in this election we've had some tremendous results against the Tories as well - the British people in these areas are saying, we've had enough of the whole multicultural experiment, especially if it's financed with our taxes, without our consent.
DAVID DIMBLEBY: Do you think that eh, people who vote BNP, for instance, believe that mixed marriages or having a mixed sexual partner, is neither moral nor normal, is that what people who vote BNP think?
NICK GRIFFIN: I dont think they think about it and nor do we, such things aren't a job for political parties or government to even think about.
DAVID DIMBLEBY: Thats on your website, for the BNP.
NICK GRIFFIN: No its not. No -
DAVID DIMBLEBY: I'm quoting from it.
NICK GRIFFIN: Wuh, uh
DAVID DIMBLEBY: We, you will never accept mixed marriages or mixed partners as moral or normal.
NICK GRIFFIN: Yeah thats true, thats, that's our position. But, but, the pub-, the pub. The pub-, the public won't mind that While we dont accept that its normal ourselves, we dont believe it's something that any government, even a British National Party government, has any right to legislate on.
DAVID DIMBLEBY: When people vote -
NICK GRIFFIN: .. to make up their own choice.
DAVID DIMBLEBY: When people vote for you, do you think that they agree with you that Asian Muslims have a plan to conquer Britain?
NICK GRIFFIN: I think quite a lot of them, certainly in northern towns they do, because ehm, they've seen it with their own eyes, they've heard it from some of these people - We don't say it's all of them, we said it's a significant number, and it's something which needs very seriously addressing, before it ends in terrible trouble.
DAVID DIMBLEBY: Do you think that when people vote for you they want to see land and the economy restored to British ownership? And do, do you mean by that the nationalisation of land and the economy?
NICK GRIFFIN: No certainly not, but ehm, definitely if you talk to people in, former industrial areas, where the last remaining manifacturing eh, industries, eh, the good ones, have been bought up by foreigners and then closed down and shipped abroad, yeah people do want the British government to look after the British economy.
DAVID DIMBLEBY: I'm puzzled because you, you have, a lot of your appeal comes from, as you say, from poorer white areas in, in Britain, and your policy is to restore industry and ownership how to Britain? You seem to have a - One of your policies, as far as I could detect it from your website, is something called national self-sufficiency. Which is presumed to mean cutting cheap imports, of food and clothes, which is what the poor people depend on, more than any other sector in society!
NICK GRIFFIN: No, not primarily food and clothes. Eh, We're far more in-, interested in the high-tech industries, which is what a modern cou-, modern economy really needs to survive and prosper, and for a country to be properly independent . We're not saying that, we wouldn't have any foreign imports, obviously, but we do believe that we should have go[ne?] basically the Japanese or the Korean model, which has served those countries very well, whereby certain key industries are, protected, so that, eh, the home market is there for home producers as [??].
DAVID DIMBLEBY: You went into a lot of detail in your, ehm, manifesto for these elections; one of the things you said - I wonder whether the people voted for this? - is that you were, would replace all school catering and choice of food with one choice of meal for all pupils? What's that about?
NICK GRIFFIN: Uh, it's mainly about the appaling problems of anorexia and bulimia, eh, and the fact that uhm, canteen-style food means that there's no teachers overseeing what the kids eat, and young girl especially are dying as a result. And I've talked to lots of parents, who think it's a really important policy to bring back traditional, proper school meals where all youngsters sit down and eat with the teachers, so they can't starve themselves to death without anyone noticing.
DAVID DIMBLEBY: And one choice, does that mean that vegetarians have to put up with eating meat, and halal eaters have to eh, eat meat cooked in the non-halal method?
NICK GRIFFIN: Ve-, vegetarians, obviously should have a choice; halal meat eaters wouldn't get any halal meat in Britain because we'd ban it, because we believe it's utterly barbaric.
DAVID DIMBLEBY: And eh, just one last point; is it still your view that you'll only have people of, what you call European or British origin as members of your party?
NICK GRIFFIN: As members of our party, yes, if we didn't do that, our members could be, eh, thrown out of their jobs without recourse to eh, the race relations, legislation or protection, so we maintain that policy, yes.
DAVID DIMBLEBY: And you're not a racist party?
NICK GRIFFIN: But we're not a racist party.
