Immigration and Racism in Britain and USA

My position on immigration is completely non-racial. Except in few humanitarian cases, I would completely ban it, at least until we get the situation under control, and reach a national consensus on what the policy should be. This would apply to all ethnic groups equally - white, brown, black, green, striped and polka dot.

My reasoning is simple:

-Do we have too much clean air and water?
-Are our schools and hospitals too empty?
-Do we have too much electricity, gasoline and natural gas?
-Are our government and trade surplusses too high?

Unless the answers to all of these questions are "yes", then we have no business bringing in new immigrants.

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the prince...

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So you finally decided to be a man

Er... is there a message in there somewhere... ?

** Heterosexuality is for men who ain't good looking enuff to be gay!**

You're a very confused individual aren't you Prince... ?

You have obviously chosen to live out amongst the broader community away from the ghettoes and for that you are to be congratulated.

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herberts wrote:

Hi Prince - welcome to the Mickey Mouse Club. The way the game is played here is that I express my views - and everyone in the audience hisses and boos and stamp their feet and throw rotten vegetables at me.

And they're running out of insulting terminology for me too.

North West English git...
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"It's of little use trying to wrestle with a pig. You only get covered in filth, and the pig probably enjoys it."

Isn't that an ironic piece of role-reversal... ? Here am I being accused of being a nazi - and yet it's these pinko reprobates who want to infer that I am a 'schwein'. It would complete the picture for you if I was Jewish, wouldn't it McTag... ?

To me, this makes no sense at all.

Fact 1: Germans eat more pork/pig meat per capita than any other nation in the world.

Fact 2: McTag was using a simile, as in "he looks as if he's swallowed a fly" - doesn't mean he actually has!

Fact 3: McTag is Scottish, though he lives in England. OOH, maybe he should be deported back North of the Border? Shocked

Before you start accusing the rest of the world of stupidity, please engage your own critical faculties.

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herberts wrote:

the prince...
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So you finally decided to be a man

Er... is there a message in there somewhere... ?

** Heterosexuality is for men who ain't good looking enuff to be gay!**

You're a very confused individual aren't you Prince... ?

You have obviously chosen to live out amongst the broader community away from the ghettoes and for that you are to be congratulated.

Not sure what being gay is to do with manliness, but then again I would not have expected you to understand it anyways.

So I am to be congratulated for living away from "ghettos" but do I still need to be thrown out of the country?

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Wolf...

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And Herberts does have a point in regards to the more recent Chinese immigrants. Boy has London Chinatown gone down hill since they've come along.

That is commendably honest of you to say so, Wolf, and I very much understand how this must cause certain embarrassment and consternation amongst the broader Chinese community who wish for nothing more than to live in peace and dignity, and to attend to their various business enterprises and professions. That really is very sad.

Before I retired I used to give my Chinese friends a bawling out whenever they would try to defend this imported criminality by telling me that it was only the Chinese community who were being made the victim of their extortion rackets and standover tactics. With me being an Anglo they simply couldn't understand why the hell I should give a sh*t that the Chinese community was having a hard time with these bastards.

Wolf...

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May I also remind Herberts that historically Chinatowns were created due to great prejudice against Chinese people by whites (at least, in America anyway)? It was only natural for them to congregate.

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Am I going to buy that... ?

I'll meet you half way with this one. Initially, yes, there was reasonable justification for the Chinese immigrants to find protection in numbers. Naturally they found a certain degree of safe haven in grouping together in their Chinatowns.

As I understand it the problem in America was that immigrant whites newly-arrived from Britain, Ireland, and Europe often found themselves being undercut and displaced in certain types of outdoor labouring jobs by gangs of cheap Chinese labour.

But as the years have passed, the old traditions have still prevailed amongst the newer generations of Western-born Chinese. Old habits die hard - and China's colourful and highly complex cultural traditions quite naturally appeal to the younger generations such as yourself.

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Wolf.. Good God man! I've just caught up with your confession for being gay!

And then there's The Prince... and McTag... and Steve... and Lord Ellpus and his friend 'Lucy'... and... and...

What the hell have I walked into here... ? Shocked

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herberts wrote:

Hi Prince - welcome to the Mickey Mouse Club. The way the game is played here is that I express my views - and everyone in the audience hisses and boos and stamp their feet and throw rotten vegetables at me.

And they're running out of insulting terminology for me too.

North West English git...
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"It's of little use trying to wrestle with a pig. You only get covered in filth, and the pig probably enjoys it."

Isn't that an ironic piece of role-reversal... ? Here am I being accused of being a nazi - and yet it's these pinko reprobates who want to infer that I am a 'schwein'. It would complete the picture for you if I was Jewish, wouldn't it McTag... ?

No. But you're the one who likes to use the similes and metaphors. Work it out for yourself.

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Meanwhile in Russia, a place where Herberts would feel much more at home

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Russian racism 'out of control'

Racist killings in Russia are "out of control", according to a report by international human rights watchdog Amnesty International. The report into violent racism shows that at least 28 people were killed and 366 were assaulted in 2005. This year there have already been a number of high-profile cases, including the death of nine-year-old Tajik girl. Amnesty condemns discrimination by the authorities and a failure to properly record or investigate racist crimes. The Amnesty report, entitled "Russian Federation: Violent racism out of control", includes examples of police and prosecutors routinely classifying murders and serious assaults by skinhead extremists as lesser crimes of "hooliganism".

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The Prince...

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So I am to be congratulated for living away from "ghettos" but do I still need to be thrown out of the country?

After a sleepless night and much deep thought and lip-biting - and after having consulted with my trusty Tarot cards - I have graciously decided to allow you to remain in Britain after my Party has come to power following upon the iminent coup.

Go in peace and sin no more.

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Eorl wrote:

herberts ain't nuts, just plain racist...a racism born (as usual) of xenophobia I expect (although he/she may prefer the synonym, "patriotism")

Political Correctness run amok is gay.

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Steve... Yes, I know Russian society is spiraling out of control. Their army has for years been a breeding ground for every type of thuggery and brutality known to man.

Even so it has to be said that the leading figures in Russia's criminal underworld are predominantly comprised of people from the Islamic southern republics such as Chechnya.

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This thread should be turned into a corral, given the number of great, braying jackasses one finds here.

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BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

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cjhsa wrote:

Eorl wrote:
racism born (as usual) of xenophobia I expect (although he/she may prefer the synonym, "patriotism")

Political Correctness run amok is gay.

Yeah you're right, no use for all these PC euphemisms and terminology cloaking - why not just call it for what it is, racist, plain and simple..

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Jim wrote:

My reasoning is simple:

-Do we have too much clean air and water?
-Are our schools and hospitals too empty?
-Do we have too much electricity, gasoline and natural gas?
-Are our government and trade surplusses too high?

Unless the answers to all of these questions are "yes", then we have no business bringing in new immigrants.

Right... so if the problem is a lack of clean air and water and overfilled schools and hospitals, I assume that you are in favour of a strict implementation of environmental standards and significant new investment in schools and hospitals then?

Considering the lack of either, its hardly because of illegal immigrants that both are in a bad shape...

(By the way, the trade surplus is likely to become worse if there are fewer illegal immigrants, because it would either reduce domestic production altogether or make US products more expensive, and thus harder to export...)

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nimh wrote:

cjhsa wrote:
Eorl wrote:
racism born (as usual) of xenophobia I expect (although he/she may prefer the synonym, "patriotism")

Political Correctness run amok is gay.

Yeah you're right, no use for all these PC euphemisms and terminology cloaking - why not just call it for what it is, racist, plain and simple..

Being anti-illegal alien isn't racist. From your own posts, it seems, you oppose illegal "immigration" as well. So, are you calling yourself racist?

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Nimh -

Yes, I want to see all existing environmental standards rigorously enforced.

And yes, if increased spending on schools and hospitals is needed for our citizens, then it needs to be done.

May I ask you to consider the daily consumption of the estimated 13 million illegal aliens in the United States. At 1500 KWhours a month per household, that's 162 million kilowatt hours a day. We're already having rolling brownouts in the summer months. Do you support building more coal or nuclear power plants to supply this electricity?

How about gasoline? 13 million illegal aliens will burn about 230,000 barrels a day of gasoline. Do you support drilling in ANWR to make up this shortfall?

In addition to supporting enforcing environmental regulations, and having sufficient schools and hospitals for our citizens, I also support zero population growth. Do you? And the United States isn't going to achieve this if we keep on importing a million or more illegal aliens a year.

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The brownouts and fuel consumption could be avoided if the US citizens weren't so keen on using vastly more energy per person than the rest of the world's citizens, but that's another topic entirely.

Immigration tends to increase a nation's wealth - including for those already there. I don't have the articles at my fingertips and I've not got the time now to look them up but The Economist (very much a free-market paper, not a commie one!) published an in-depth article on this within the last two years.

KP

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Jim wrote:

May I ask you to consider the daily consumption of the estimated 13 million illegal aliens in the United States. At 1500 KWhours a month per household, that's 162 million kilowatt hours a day. We're already having rolling brownouts in the summer months.

Considering the massive energy consumption of close to 300 million US citizens, I think the contribution of illegal immigrants to the problem is highly marginal.

Same for fuel. Considering escalating sales of fuel-gulping SUVs and the distaste of the US government to impose more stringent energy and fuel use standards, it is just folly to seek the solution for these problems in restricting immigration. It's a red herring.

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In fact, perhaps this is a good thing.

If the immigrants drive price rises up in fuel costs, perhaps they'll lose less and be more ecofriendly. The companies that don't like it will either innovate or stubbornly try to coax people back to the old ways.

Ah, Capitalism in action...

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