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Immigration and Racism in Britain and USA

 
 
herberts
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 04:58 am
naj -
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What is YOUR view on the history of Britain?


I have absolutely no intentions of being distracted by such a patent and superfluous red herring.

Suffice it to say that Britain's colonial history should by no means have in any way obliged the British government to embark upon an inappropriate and utterly ludicrous open-slather immigration programme of black and Muslim importation starting from the mid-1950's.

And your stating that my use of adjectival nouns in these posts is excessive is yet another irrelevancy.
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herberts
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 05:15 am
nihm...
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Luckily, most Dutch and British of both authochthonous and immigrant origin are opposed to both...


So naj doesn't lose any sleep - that means 'indigenous' - ie 'Inheems' in Dutch.
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 05:21 am
Naj is from Holland, Herberts
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herberts
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 05:25 am
nimh...
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Naj is from Holland, Herberts


Probably yet another one who spends his evenings loitering around the .. er... 'herbal' cafes... Very Happy
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 05:28 am
I dont smoke, myself, Herb'erts, never have...
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 05:29 am
Not that there's anything wrong with 'em ;-)
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herberts
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 05:43 am
I have never smoked marijuana in my life - not once. I've been careful to keep a clear head so that I would never succumb to the sort of leftwing-liberal 'multiculturalist' propaganda which now, these many years later - sees droves of middle class Dutchmen and their families fleeing to live in Spain and Portugal and other destinations as all part of Holland's 'white flight'...

http://www.liquidninjas.com/bbs/images/smilies/klan/cool.gif

The Dutch middle classes are voting with their feet - fleeing a situation of increasing ethnic tension in their ancestral homeland. They have grown tired of the multiculturalist bullsh*t which has turned their national homeland into a multi-ethnic disaster.
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 06:24 am
herberts wrote:
snood... It's always a vexed question where one should draw the line on racist humour. The Jews, just like the English have long-since come up with the most effective solution against racist or nationalist humour directed adainst them -- they've learnt to laugh along with the audience[/i] and take it all in their stride.

Want to migrate to Australia as a young white Englishman and then find yourself being referred to as a 'Pommy bastard' for the rest of your life... ? It's not just the brothers, snood. Chill out man.

http://pages.city2000.net/~mking/graphics/grin4.gif


So, you're not just a lowlife bigot, you're actually one of the most dangerous kind - the kind who believes themselves justified in their racist behaviour. N, Herberts - racist humor isn't cool, and it isn't the problem of those who take issue with it - it's your problem...
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nimh
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 07:33 am
herberts wrote:
droves of middle class Dutchmen and their families fleeing to live in Spain and Portugal and other destinations as all part of Holland's 'white flight'...

The Dutch middle classes are voting with their feet

According to the CBS*, the number of those who were born in The Netherlands and emigrated from there in 2005 was 55,423.

(They constituted a minority of the total number of those who emigrated, outnumbered as they were by so-called "remigrants" who returned to their country of birth and those who were born in country A, came to Holland and emigrated to country B).

The total population of those in The Netherlands who were born in the country was 14,698,862.

Ergo, in 2005 one out of 265 people born in The Netherlands emigrated.

That includes people like me, who went to work in another EU country, for no reason related to Herberts' assertion.

All in all, not quite the droves that would represent "the Dutch middle classes".



*http://statline.cbs.nl/StatWeb/table.asp?PA=37943ned&D1=3-6,99-371&D2=(l-11)-l&DM=SLNL&LA=nl&TT=2
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 07:37 am
Maybe he meant you have a really, really, really tiny middle class . . . I applaud the good work you do here, but this has reached the point at which all that is accomplished is to preen the racist's ego--he doesn't merit this amount of attention.
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najmelliw
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 09:42 am
Thank you for giving me the proper translation, herberts. adjeectival nouns... Hmm.
I don't do herbs, btw... Not even nicotine. Cafeine, however, in massive doses. Thank you for taking it upon yourself to point out other words I may have troubles with, but I am well aware of autochthonous means, herberts... We use a very similar word, 'autochtoon', over here.

So why do you think i was planting a 'red herring' ? No topic is more discussed then history. I find it quite odd and frankly hypocritical that you slander the post of george, who gives a historical description of certain areas, and on the other hand refuse to state your own version.

Naj
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 09:51 am
herberts wrote:

George... Thank you for the considerable effort you've put into that well-considered post for me to muse over.

But alas and begorra, George - it pains me to say this but it is so full of holes, and flaws, and broadbrush fallacies, and comfortable urban myths, and patent inaccuracies - that I would need to employ the services of a half dozen illegal immigrant cleaners working overtime on the weekends to clean up the mess you've deposited here on the carpet.

A simply appalling litany of half-truths, little white lies-of-convenience, and heaps of politically correct multicultural gibberish straight out of PC Central 101.

Where to begin?

Where's that front-end loader I ordered from the administration here... ? And the rubber gloves...

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e150/ruffdiamond/ill.jpg


Apart from the empty posturing above, I have seen no response to the comments that inspired it. You said you'ld be back, but I nave seen nothing. Same goes for any meaningful response to Nimh's very sensible and realistic points. Perhaps Setanta is right.
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 01:53 pm
herberts wrote:
This subversive media organisation has been the propaganda arm of Britain's leftwing-elite chattering classes since shortly after Churchill retired from politics. It has for decades been shamelessly promoting and sponsoring every kind of 'social-progressive' PC agenda on behalf of Britain's legions of beard-stroking leftwing academics and the union-backed socialist brotherhood.


One of the things you can't call News of the World is left-wing. The Sun isn't left wing either. If you think the British tabloids, which are generally right-wing, including the Times, as left wing then you seriously need to readdress your political viewpoint.

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Which newspapers have been voicing the sort of nationalist concerns about preserving Britain's traditional Anglo culture and identity against the incursions of Islamic and Asian ghettoism as I have been doing here... ?

Sweet effing none is the answer.


http://editorsblog.dailymail.co.uk/2006/04/its_st_georges_.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/...source=

Yes... perhaps the Daily Mail doesn't fit your bill? I'm sure there's more stuff that fits your bill in the Daily Mail, but I don't have a subscription. You are, however, welcome to sign up for one yourself.

It is arguably the most right-wing of all the tabloids. If you don't think it's right-wing enough, then as I say again, you probably might need to have your political alignments readjusted.
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herberts
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 03:10 pm
Good golly Miss Molly! - what a sad collection of neurotics we have here. Who in the 50's would ever have believed that here I am being painted as a racist and a nationalist redneck for no other reason than that I am defending the preservation of sovereign homelands against being swamped by indissoluble and unassimilable immigrant Third Worlders! Quite extraordinary!

One would think that my position in this debate is on the side of virtue for wishing to protect historic national identities such as Britain, Holland, Belgium and the rest against being wiped out from the inside by aggressive immigrant colonialism and liberalist multiculturalism.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 03:12 pm
herberts wrote:
"...being swamped by indissoluble and unassimilable immigrant Third Worlders!"

Now, if only herbert would learn about American history.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 03:21 pm
herberts wrote:
Good golly Miss Molly! - what a sad collection of neurotics we have here.


Interesting that those who are unable to respond substantively to disagreement, so often resort to name - calling and personal attacks. Those who are better armed with facts and rational argument generally deal with the substance of the disagreement instead of attacking those who disagree.
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najmelliw
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 03:59 pm
George, that has to be the best description of the fallacy of ad hominem argumentation I have heard yet Smile
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herberts
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 04:10 pm
snood...
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So, you're not just a lowlife bigot, you're actually one of the most dangerous kind - the kind who believes themselves justified in their racist behaviour. N, Herberts - racist humor isn't cool, and it isn't the problem of those who take issue with it - it's your problem...


"Just a lowlife bigot".

One of the hazards of indulging in this sort of debate is that people are hopeless at arithmetic... and are basically dishonest with regard to their own culpability for the very same 'sins' that they would wish to hang me for.

If I make just one pronouncement of a racist kind - the offended party automatically assumes a further ten[/i] 'redneck' opinions that can be ascribed to me - despite these not having been stated.

The problem with attempting to 'join-all-the-dots-together' to complete a person's 'redneck' profile is that... you guessed it... this in itself is preemptive and prejudicial behaviour of the very sort which moves our friend Mr Snood to condemn and lambaste me as a 'lowlife'.

I am not the enemy of your race, snood. But neither am I a fool and a dupe to be soft-soaped into advocating that my national homeland should be swamped by indissoluble aliens so that I can then stand innocent of being called a 'lowlife racist and bigot'.

These are the very same tools which for over 40-years have blackmailed the British people into mutely and meekly accepting that their national homeland should be invaded by millions of blacks and Muslims to form their own communities and racial identity as a people apart from the indigenous Englishman in his own homeland.

The black eye and fat lip gag seems to have upset you, snood - and I hereby acklowledge that because you do not know me you would naturally have viewed this little tickler as being in the worst possible taste - and for this I sincerely apologise, and I accept your condemnation for having been a tad delinquent with this old joke.

Come on, snood... big hug! You too naj!... you too nimh!...

http://www.fun4everybody.com/images/poohhug.gif
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herberts
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 04:23 pm
naj...
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So why do you think i was planting a 'red herring' ? No topic is more discussed then history.


Check out the title of this thread. How many balls would you like us to be juggling here... ? I'm trying to ease my migraines - not exacerbate them.
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herberts
 
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Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 05:04 pm
Thanks for those links, Wolfie.

I can only repeat what I've said before - if these are genuine 'rightwing' newspapers they would have been closed down years ago under Britain's draconian vilification laws.

Just witness the leftwing hysteria I have encountered here... Government officials in Britain would have long-since been lobbied sh*tless by black and Islamic community representatives to have these papers shut down or 'brought to heel' - or suffer the consequences at the polling booths.

'Rightwing' newspapers - my arse! As a matter of fact the general contents of Britain's tabloids are a sad reminder and a disgraceful showcase for just how imbecile and 'dumbed-down' is the mentality of the ordinary Britisher.

No wonder I emigrated... and caused the average UK national IQ to drop significantly... http://www.liquidninjas.com/bbs/images/smilies/klan/cool.gif

Speaking of which - congratulations goes to Holland for topping the list of nations with the highest average IQ! - (and that's despite nimh bringing this down a couple of notches... http://67.18.37.17/1481/4/emo/eusa_wall.gif Very Happy )

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