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Montana
 
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Reply Mon 24 Apr, 2006 07:33 am
It was up to $4.70 here last week, but I'm sure it'll be more when I fill up today :-(
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Anon-Voter
 
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Reply Mon 24 Apr, 2006 07:40 am
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Kinda like the Lottery money going to schools? Higher taxes are for those unwilling to fend for themselves. If choosing green vehicles is how you do that, more power to you.

http://www.gasbuddy.com/gb_gastemperaturemap.aspx


I don't know if the lottery money makes it to the schools where you are, but it certainly does here!

I'm serious CJ, I think the gas price should be much lower for gas efficient vehicles, and for the gas guzzlers ... NO MERCY!!

Anon
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 24 Apr, 2006 08:00 am
Anon-Voter wrote:
I don't know if the lottery money makes it to the schools where you are, but it certainly does here!



Maybe to pay for ESL classes! Laughing

The state reduced its funding by what the lottery pays in. It's a wash.
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Montana
 
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Reply Mon 24 Apr, 2006 08:49 am
That's what I need! I need to hit the lottery!
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Mon 24 Apr, 2006 11:12 am
Gas has actually gone down a little. I saw it as low as 2.89 but most are still lingering closer to $3.
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Montana
 
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Reply Mon 24 Apr, 2006 12:01 pm
Filled up today at $4.80 a gal Shocked

Cost me about $15 to go see my doctor today.
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El-Diablo
 
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Reply Wed 3 May, 2006 02:39 pm
**** $4.80 a gallon! It's about $3.20 on a bad day round here.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Thu 4 May, 2006 11:36 pm
I think one has to be wary of the right wing extremists. They are now beginning to complain that the gas prices are high because we are not building more nuclear power plants; that we are not despoiling the beautiful eastern and southern coasts of the USA with oil rigs out in the oceans; that we are not destroying the pristine beauty of the Alaskan wilderness; that we are not polluting our land with ugly and poisonous refineries.

As a stalwart environmentalist, I know we must preserve our earth. It's the only one we've got. We cannot allow any more global warming so that our coastal cities may soon be under water.

I will pay $4.00 a gallon for gas and even $5.00 if I have to in order to preserve our environment!
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 5 May, 2006 08:18 am
Are you also a member of Peta? Do you think China will follow your environmental strategy?
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BernardR
 
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Reply Sat 6 May, 2006 11:39 pm
chjsa:

China will not follow that strategy. Neither will India. In fact, if Global Warming is truly mainly man-made, any attempt by the Greens to "Save our Earth" is useless since by 2020, even if we radically reduced our output of carbon dioxide and radically reduced our economic output, the continued "so-called" pollution by China and India would make our sacrifices invalid.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Tue 9 May, 2006 08:28 am
It is constructive sometimes to understand the 'why' of certain phenomena, and the national apolexy over gas prices is something generally poorly understood I think.

The following essay is constructive to perhaps understanding a little piece of the issue:

May 09, 2006
Is Thinking Obsolete?
By Thomas Sowell

Amid all the hysteria among politicians and in the media over rising gasoline prices, and all the outraged indignation about oil company profits and their executives' high pay and lavish perks, has anybody bothered to even estimate how much effect any of this actually has on the price we pay at the pump?

If the profit per gallon of gas were reduced to zero, would that be enough to reduce the price by even a dime? If the oil company executives were to work free of charge, would that be enough to reduce the price of gasoline by even a penny a gallon?

Surely media loudmouths making millions of dollars a year and the multibillion dollar TV networks they work for can afford to get some statistics and buy a pocket calculator to do the arithmetic before spouting off nationwide.

But this is the age of emotion, not analysis.

Politicians are even more hypocritical. The government collects far more in taxes on every gallon of gasoline than the oil companies collect in profits. If oil company profits are "obscene," as some politicians claim, are the government's taxes PG-13?

The very politicians who have piled tax after tax on gasoline over the years, and voted to prohibit oil drilling offshore or in Alaska, and who have made it impossible to build a single oil refinery in decades, are all over the television screens denouncing the oil companies. In other words, those who supply oil are being denounced and demonized by those who have been blocking the supply of oil.

Given the vast amounts of gasoline sold across the length and breadth of this nation, and given the mega-billion dollars involved, whether or not some corporate executive has an inflated pay scale is unlikely to explain the price of gasoline.

It may allow some people in the media to vent their emotions and some politicians to create a bogeyman, since they can't play St. George without a dragon. But cheap demagoguery cannot explain expensive gas.

When the two most heavily populated nations on earth -- China and India -- have rapidly growing economies and rapidly escalating importations of oil, how could that not affect the world price of oil? After all, the price of oil is determined in the international markets, contrary to conspiracy theories that keep turning up whenever gas prices rise.

Those conspiracy theories have been investigated time and again, without uncovering anything. But it is still a clever political ploy to ask for more investigations when gas prices rise. If nothing else, it distracts attention from those who have been blocking all attempts to enable us to use our own oil.

Nothing is easier, or more emotionally satisfying, than blaming high prices on those who charge them, rather than on those who cause them. The same thing happens when stores in high-crime neighborhoods charge higher prices than stores in safer neighborhoods.

Both crime and precautions against crime add to the cost of doing business and this adds to the prices. But seldom, if ever, do those who decry the high prices blame those prices on the crime, vandalism, and violence committed by local inhabitants.

Where the stores are owned by a different ethnic group, such as Asians in black ghettoes, it is virtually guaranteed that the store owners will be denounced for "gouging," "discrimination" and whatever other political rhetoric will rouse the emotions.

People with no experience in business, no knowledge of history, and utterly ignorant of economics do not hesitate to leap from high prices to greedy profit-makers. Many of these ignorant people are on nationwide television and some are in Congress.

Many, if not most, of the great American fortunes -- Rockefeller, Carnegie, Ford -- have been made by finding ways to charge lower prices, not higher.

In the early 20th century, the A & P grocery chain became renowned for both its low prices and its high quality. Its profit rate never fell below 20 percent during the decade of the 1920s. That's a higher rate of profit than the oil companies make.

The relationship between prices and profit rates is not as simple as media hype or political demagoguery claims.

SOURCE
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Tue 9 May, 2006 04:31 pm
Here's a search engine from MSN that works like MapQuest. Click on this to get an updated listing of service stations with lowest prices in your area,

http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstations.aspx?zip=&src=Netx

You're welcome.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Tue 9 May, 2006 04:43 pm
Sowell, one of the most intelligent and logical writers of our time has located the nexus of the problem which will not be accepted by the partisans on the left.

When the two most heavily populated nations on earth -- China and India -- have rapidly growing economies and rapidly escalating importations of oil, how could that not affect the world price of oil? After all, the price of oil is determined in the international markets, contrary to conspiracy theories that keep turning up whenever gas prices rise.


Thank you Foxfyre.
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It is interesting that the two economies who are causing a spike in oil prices world wide are also two economies who are not signed on to the Kyoto Protocol and thereby are not liable for their "Pollution"> If Carbon Dioxide is indeed the villain that it is said to be( highly unlikely) then China and India are also chief polluters.

What can be done?
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