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Mammogram Reminder To My Female Friends Aboard A2K

 
 
Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:22 am
material girl wrote:
Christ, now your telling me its going to hurt!!


material girl- In a pap smear, the doctor scrapes off a few cells to check under a microscope. It is really no big deal. Trust me!
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material girl
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:24 am
Im aware that they did that but I didnt know it would hurt.Im near to puking, can we get back to mammograms.
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:28 am
Phoenix32890 wrote:
Montana wrote:
doc says I'm too young.


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It is recommended that women age 40 and older have regular mammograms. Age 40-50 is when the costs of mammograms, such as false-positives and economic costs, are outweighed by the benefits of cancer detection. Women in their forties should discuss the best method of screening with their health care provider. However, women 50 and older are at a much higher risk for developing breast cancer, and regular mammograms in these women have been shown to decrease mortality. Screening is important because the earlier cancer is detected the better the chances are for successful treatment and survival. When detection occurs before any spread, the five-year survival rate is 97%. After spread to the local lymph nodes, it is 76%. After metastasis to other organs, the five-year survival rate is 20%.


http://cancerquest.org/index.cfm?page=310

Montana- It is true that the breast tissue of younger women is such, that false positives occur much more often than with older women. On the other hand, I have known women in their thirties who have had breast cancer. Is the doctor at least giving you a thorough breast exam? If not, IMO, you need to try another doctor.

Here is a good article about breast cancer as it relates to younger women:


http://www.webmd.com/content/article/74/89085


My doc does give me thorough breast exams every year when I go in for my pap.
After my best friend died of breast cancer at 38, I talked with doc about it and he feels that since there is no breast cancer running in my family, that I am such a low risk factor when it comes to breast cancer and.
My doc is a cancer survivor, so he pays extra attention to cancer issues.

Since I spoke with him about it after my friend died, I must have only been 38 at the time, since my best friend and I were the same age.
I'm going to talk with him about it at our next visit, now that I'm in my 40's, to see what he says.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:28 am
Now I am sorry that I opened my big mouth. Material girl- One more time.............It is no big deal!!!!
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material girl
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:30 am
I wont use the language i have in my head but lets just say to me, it is a big deal.
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:32 am
material girl wrote:
Im aware that they did that but I didnt know it would hurt.Im near to puking, can we get back to mammograms.


Oh my god!!! Relax girl!!! It doesn't hurt (not me anyway)!!! Deep breaths now.

This is a very important test (PAP), so make sure you get this done every year and I promise you'll never drop dead of embarrassment ;-)
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JPB
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:33 am
MG, the thoughts you have in your head are much worse than the reality. It's literally one minute out of your life from start to finish. Count to 60 and it's over. That one minute of not much of anything, really, could add decades to your life.

Anyone who is sexually active should have an annual pap smear. Pushing yourself to go the first time will show you that your anxieties are causing you more discomfort than the procedure itself.
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material girl
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:34 am
Annoyingly that didnt convince me.
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material girl
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:41 am
is it the same for sexually inactive people?
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:43 am
I haven't been sexually active in over 8 years, but I still go in every year for what I call "The dreaded test". I joke with my doc about to ease my own tension and we laugh. Next thing you know, he's done and moves on to feeling my breasts.
We always talk as he's doing his thing, which makes me feel much more comfortable. Doctors know this, so they talk lots during this time and this helps a lot.
I had a female doc most of my life, until I moved to Canada. The doc I have now is a lung specialist, which is why I went with him, plus he was my grandmothers doc and she lived to be 97 years old. Not bad at all ;-)
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:44 am
material girl wrote:
is it the same for sexually inactive people?


I don't think being sexually active has anything to do with it. As far as I know, sex doesn't cause cancer.
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JPB
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:46 am
Guidelines:

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Cervical Cancer

* All women should begin cervical cancer screening about 3 years after they begin having vaginal intercourse, but no later than when they are 21 years old. Screening should be done every year with the regular Pap test or every 2 years using the newer liquid-based Pap test.

* Beginning at age 30, women who have had 3 normal Pap test results in a row may get screened every 2 to 3 years. Another reasonable option for women over 30 is to get screened every 3 years (but not more frequently) with either the conventional or liquid-based Pap test, plus the HPV DNA test. Women who have certain risk factors such as diethylstilbestrol (DES) exposure before birth, HIV infection, or a weakened immune system due to organ transplant, chemotherapy, or chronic steroid use should continue to be screened annually.

* Women 70 years of age or older who have had 3 or more normal Pap tests in a row and no abnormal Pap test results in the last 10 years may choose to stop having cervical cancer screening. Women with a history of cervical cancer, DES exposure before birth, HIV infection or a weakened immune system should continue to have screening as long as they are in good health.

* Women who have had a total hysterectomy (removal of the uterus and cervix) may also choose to stop having cervical cancer screening, unless the surgery was done as a treatment for cervical cancer or precancer. Women who have had a hysterectomy without removal of the cervix should continue to follow the guidelines above.
source
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JPB
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:48 am
Montana wrote:
material girl wrote:
is it the same for sexually inactive people?


I don't think being sexually active has anything to do with it. As far as I know, sex doesn't cause cancer.


The prevalence of HPV and the potential of HPV to cause cervical changes which, if left untreated, can progress to cancer is the reason behind the sexual activity recommendation.
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:49 am
Hmmmm, that's interesting, JB. I wonder why my doc insists I have an anual pap?
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material girl
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:50 am
Because having sex whenever starts the cervical changes.I doubt it goes back to normal after not having sex for a while.
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:50 am
J_B wrote:
Montana wrote:
material girl wrote:
is it the same for sexually inactive people?


I don't think being sexually active has anything to do with it. As far as I know, sex doesn't cause cancer.


The prevalence of HPV and the potential of HPV to cause cervical changes which, if left untreated, can progress to cancer is the reason behind the sexual activity recommendation.


I had no idea. Thanks for the info.
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JPB
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:52 am
It was the older recommendation; I think these came out in 2003. Some docs feel keeping everything on an annual routine will help keep it from being forgotten.
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Chai
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:53 am
2 points....

Montana - if you're in your 40's you really need to get a mammo...

In March a suspicious area was caught via the mamo on my boss.....had a biopsy done.....it was positive.

Fortunately, it was small and encapsulated. It was SO small you could not feel it.....

Bottom line, she's going to her last chemo treatment next Friday (we're all calling her baldy around here Surprised ). Who knows what might have happened it she hadn't had it done?

I really can't believe your doc woudn't order a mamo for you....that's awful.

AND MISS MATERIAL GIRL!!!!
I'm just as jumpy as you are at having my nether regions examined by docs, so you can really and truly believe me when I say it's absolutely no big deal.....

If it helps, get a female to do it. She'll probably make small talk with you during that minute to keep you occupied, asking you silly questions like where you work/live etc.
Or....just set your eyes on a point, like a picture of something in the office, and I count backwards from 100....I'll go slow and I don't think I've ever gotten past 80.....it's that quick.

I wouldn't call it pain. OK since it's ladies here...you know how sometimes when you go to insert a tampon and it rubs the wrong way for a second? Absolutely no worse than that.

Oh...I don't know about in England, but in the US, if a male is examining you that way, there has to be a female in the room with you....they'll know it's your first time, and she'll sit right by you and hold your hand and talk nonsense to you and you can talk nonsense to her....it's just done that quick.

If I were there, I'd hold you hand and tell you a joke, and I wouldn't even get to the punchline before it's done. Have your mother or sister or friend go with.
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Montana
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:54 am
J_B wrote:
It was the older recommendation; I think these came out in 2003. Some docs feel keeping everything on an annual routine will help keep it from being forgotten.


Well, I'll certainly be asking doc if we can cut back ;-)
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material girl
 
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Reply Wed 17 May, 2006 07:57 am
Believe me the last thing id want is for someone to be talking to me during it.I wouldnt be able talk due to me either crying or puking.
I wish I could think like you.
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