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What should be done about illegal immigration?

 
 
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 04:03 pm
@cicerone imposter,
(Whistle) Foul on CI for quoting Foxfyre out of context.
mysteryman
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 04:05 pm
@realjohnboy,
He does that quite often, so its nothing new.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 04:38 pm
@realjohnboy,
rjb, Didn't people warn you that blowing a whistle under water doesn't work too well?
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 04:44 pm
@Foxfyre,
Quote:
comes out of your own little tunnel visioned world.
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old europe
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 04:46 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:
I will tell you what I tell other self-righteous and judgmental types


Foxfyre wrote:
It is people like YOU who are condemning millions of people to second class status
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 04:52 pm
@old europe,
oe, We can henceforth assume that Foxie was and will never be self-righteous or judgmental.

rjb, Am I still taking her quote out of context?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 04:57 pm
Hey look. We have a whole bunch of people who like to take stuff out of context.
old europe
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 04:59 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:
kool-ade


Kool-Aid
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 05:00 pm
@old europe,
You said it. Not me.
old europe
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 05:02 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:
I haven't drunk that kool-ade


linky-dinky

You're welcome.
Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 05:05 pm
@old europe,
I agree. Some of the pro-illegal immigration folks do seem to drink a similar brand of kool-ade as some of the AGW religionists. Odd that you would make that link, but oh well. Whatever.
old europe
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 05:20 pm
@Foxfyre,
Laughing
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 05:54 pm
Quote:
drink the kool-aid

A reference to the 1978 cult mass-suicide in Jonestown, Guyana. Jim Jones, the leader of the group, convinced his followers to move to Jonestown. Late in the year he then ordered his flock to commit suicide by drinking grape-flavored Kool-Aid laced with potassium cyanide. In what is now commonly called "the Jonestown Massacre", 913 of the 1100 Jonestown residents drank the Kool-Aid and died.

One lasting legacy of the Jonestown tragedy is the saying, “Don’t drink the Kool-Aid.” This has come to mean, "Don’t trust any group you find to be a little on the kooky side." or "Whatever they tell you, don't believe it too strongly".

The phrase can also be used in the opposite sense to indicate that one has embraced a particular philosophy or perspective.


some pretty funny stuff here, I find it interesting that wing-nut neocon conservatives have adopted the phrase to demean liberals. A cult of fanatic religious wackos drink the kool aid and die and wingnuts find a cute expression to disdain liberals, Irony?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 06:03 pm
@dyslexia,
The funny thing about conservatives is the simple fact that irony is not part of their reality. It seems only outsiders are able to see it and laugh their hearts out!

That's one of Foxie's favorite saying. LOL
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 06:38 pm
@dyslexia,
I find it interesting that you assume that it is rightwingers and neocons who introduced the phrase as modern slang and are the only ones who use it.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 07:54 pm
@Foxfyre,
Foxfyre wrote:

I find it interesting that you assume that it is rightwingers and neocons who introduced the phrase as modern slang and are the only ones who use it.

True story, yall, regarding Kool-Aid. I happen to control two parcels of land on opposite sides of Main St in Cville. Just to the west, and I mean just to the west is UVA, with its Jeffersonian architecture: red bricks and white columns. I love UVA, but I became convinced that their eastward migration down Main St had to be stopped. I found an architect who shared my conviction and we are working on putting up a 6-story and a 9-story complex that says: UVA ends here.
Kool-Aid? It was a tough sell before the Planning Commission and the Board of Architectural Review. My architect had the audacity to say that, in his career, he had often drunk the "Jeffersonian Kool-Aid." Blasphemy. The phrase "Kool-Aid" showed up in numerous meetings. Amazingly often.
Where am I? On the "illegal immigration" thread? Oops.
ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 08:04 pm
@Foxfyre,
Right-wingers are the only ones who use the term ¨Kool-Aid" to refer to science.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 10:06 pm
@ebrown p,
Foxie is a regular user of that term.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Fri 8 May, 2009 11:21 pm
@realjohnboy,
Laughing

Naw I see and hear the phrase in all sorts of genre. In the Meryl Streep/Anne Hathaway hit movie: "The Devil Wore Prada", "Andrea" is beginning to get with the program in her new job as assistant to the Editor in Chief of Runway Magazine. Her less-than-impressed and highly liberal boyfriend says insultingly, "Sounds like somebody has been drinking the kool-ade". Also not germane to the immigration thread, but an illustration of how socially prevalent the phrase is.
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Advocate
 
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Reply Mon 11 May, 2009 11:44 am
The following matches my view, which is that offering another amnesty invites hordes of additional illegals to our country. We are already seeing degradation from the illegals: economically, environmentally, culturally, criminally, etc. We are such suckers.


Immigration policy is mere insanity
Published Saturday, May 9, 2009

A good definition of insanity is doing something over and over again, even though it doesn’t work. This is a point to reflect upon as various lobbies endorse the lunacy of offering yet another legalization (amnesty) for illegal aliens and pathway for them to become citizens.

Every time we have done this in the past we’ve only had more illegal immigration to follow. But should it surprise us that when we reward a behavior, we get more of it? Furthermore, let’s consider how we debase the worth of our citizenship by giving it to people who hold our laws in contempt.

With more than 11 million Americans out of work, one can reasonably assume that the estimated 12 million illegal aliens in this country are taking a significant number of jobs that Americans would like to have. The solution to illegal immigration is firm and steady enforcement of our immigration laws. Faced with this prospect, many illegal aliens would go home on their own.

It’s happened before. In 1954 the Eisenhower administration determined that illegal immigration was getting out of control. Rather than contemplate amnesty, the administration launched a swift crackdown. Most who departed left on their own accord when they saw that enforcement was serious. For more than a decade after the crackdown, illegal immigration was not a major problem.

We do not lack the means to deal with illegal immigration. What we are lacking now is the will.

Paul Westrum
 

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