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What should be done about illegal immigration?

 
 
au1929
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 09:24 am
Browne
If you go to an emergency room and have resources. I may be wrong however I believe you will get a bill in the mail.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 09:26 am
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 09:32 am
au1929 wrote:
Browne
If you go to an emergency room and have resources. I may be wrong however I believe you will get a bill in the mail.
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 09:36 am
OGIONIK wrote:
IF WE CAN COME HERE AND TAKE THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY AND MURDEROUSLY, WHY DO WE CARE IF THEY WANT TO MOVE HERE AND BE PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY, PEACEFULLY?

can you answer that? i highly doubt it. its hypocritical and unethical , but we're all for it so it seems.


If someone wants to move into your house and sit at your table without permission or even asking would you object if they were productive members of society.

What would you say if we allowed all to enter but refused to give them food stamps, emergency medical treatment, education to their children, and any social services?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 09:37 am
Mr browne may have enough cash to pay....
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 09:42 am
ebrown_p wrote:
(The ungratefulness of the uninsured. Go figure.)
Laughing

(Sending bill's to broke people isn't terribly effective, whether they're citizens or not.)
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 09:44 am
And again eBrown and Obill missed the point entirely. Smile
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 10:02 am
Foxfyre wrote:
au1929 wrote:
Browne
If you go to an emergency room and have resources. I may be wrong however I believe you will get a bill in the mail.


Not only will you get a bill in the mail but you will be considerably harrassed and hounded to pay it and turned over for collection if you resist and will see your credit score diminished considerably.
Do you think they pester illegals less?

I've known quite a few employers who've employd tons of illegals, and I'd wager the majority collect taxes for them just as they do the legals.

Tell me Foxy, if security is your concern, why are you against Mexican's having medical emergencies treated? Are you afraid a terrorist is going to dress up as a Mexican and blow up a hospital?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 10:14 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
au1929 wrote:
Browne
If you go to an emergency room and have resources. I may be wrong however I believe you will get a bill in the mail.


Not only will you get a bill in the mail but you will be considerably harrassed and hounded to pay it and turned over for collection if you resist and will see your credit score diminished considerably.
Do you think they pester illegals less?

I've known quite a few employers who've employd tons of illegals, and I'd wager the majority collect taxes for them just as they do the legals.

Tell me Foxy, if security is your concern, why are you against Mexican's having medical emergencies treated? Are you afraid a terrorist is going to dress up as a Mexican and blow up a hospital?
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 10:17 am
Confused What point do you think I missed?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 10:26 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Confused What point do you think I missed?


How about starting with the one I asked you to back up with a quote?
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 10:34 am
Foxfyre wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Confused What point do you think I missed?


How about starting with the one I asked you to back up with a quote?
I'm trying... that's what I commented on... but apparently I misunderstood? Or didn't I?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 10:44 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Confused What point do you think I missed?


How about starting with the one I asked you to back up with a quote?
I'm trying... that's what I commented on... but apparently I misunderstood? Or didn't I?
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 10:55 am
Foxfyre wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Confused What point do you think I missed?


How about starting with the one I asked you to back up with a quote?
I'm trying... that's what I commented on... but apparently I misunderstood? Or didn't I?


I think you have misunderstood most of the pro-enforcement side of this entire debate. When you by implication accuse me of wanting to deny emergency treatment to Mexicans, that is not only dishonest and unprovable but I think it is also a red herring intended to deflect the discussion from the actual issue being discussed. I think you have intentionally avoided the issues being discussed and rather bring in unrelated issues or invent issues that are easier for you to attack.
Fox, are you retarded? I commented clearly in favor of emergency treatment for illegals, which others were commenting clearly opposed to... and you seemed to snidely comment that I had missed the point. If that's true; tell me what the friggin point is, and I'll be able to answer your question. In other words: end the idiotic dance, answer the question and I'll be happy to explain why, if my statement was out of line and retract it if need be.

Ps. Why don't you put you sig in your sig line like everyone else?
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 11:10 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Confused What point do you think I missed?


How about starting with the one I asked you to back up with a quote?
I'm trying... that's what I commented on... but apparently I misunderstood? Or didn't I?


I think you have misunderstood most of the pro-enforcement side of this entire debate. When you by implication accuse me of wanting to deny emergency treatment to Mexicans, that is not only dishonest and unprovable but I think it is also a red herring intended to deflect the discussion from the actual issue being discussed. I think you have intentionally avoided the issues being discussed and rather bring in unrelated issues or invent issues that are easier for you to attack.
Fox, are you retarded?


Possibly but at least I can read what people write. You seem to be having a problem with that lately.


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I commented clearly in favor of emergency treatment for illegals, which others were commenting clearly opposed to... and you seemed to snidely comment that I had missed the point.


That's absolutely correct. But I wasn't snide at all. I was quite straight forward that you missed the point when you said anybody was opposed to emergency treatment for illegals or, more specifically, Mexicans which I think you made a particular point of bringing into the mix. I'll say it again: nobody was making any point opposing emergency treatment for illegals or Mexicans. They WERE commenting on the point in the letter that legal immigrants and citizens can't expect free medical treatment, emergency or otherwise, that the law requires to be furnished to the illegals no questions asked. I know it is a subtlety difficult for some to discern, but that was one of the reasons the writer of the letter wanted to become illegal.

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If that's true; tell me what the friggin point is, and I'll be able to answer your question. In other words: end the idiotic dance, answer the question and I'll be happy to explain why, if my statement was out of line and retract it if need be.


Okay here:
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Obill posted in Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:02 am Post: 2646143 -
Tell me Foxy, if security is your concern, why are you against Mexican's having medical emergencies treated? Are you afraid a terrorist is going to dress up as a Mexican and blow up a hospital?


We were neither discussing security (red herring) nor have I at any time even suggesting Mexicans or anybody else should not have medical emergencies treated. That's what I asked you to either prove or retract. And as for a terrorist dressing up as a Mexican and blowing up a hospital, you can't build a much bigger red herring than that.

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Ps. Why don't you put you sig in your sig line like everyone else?
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 11:36 am
Foxfyre wrote:
nobody was making any point opposing emergency treatment for illegals or Mexicans. They WERE commenting on the point in the letter that legal immigrants and citizens can't expect free medical treatment, emergency or otherwise, that the law requires to be furnished to the illegals no questions asked.
You really can't see the intent here?(You proved, I missed NO point, btw). "The law" doesn't require that at all; it is another bigoted, Bull Sh!t Point... this time an attempt to deny emergency room treatment to illegals. The law, that you're so worried about upholding doesn't say dick about providing emergency room service to illegals. The law requires that humans who show up for treatment get treated. You have iterated your agreement with the opposition again in this post, for crying out sideways.

Foxfyre wrote:
I know it is a subtlety difficult for some to discern, but that was one of the reasons the writer of the letter wanted to become illegal.
Proving only that the writer of the letter is as ignorant as he is bigoted.



Foxfyre wrote:
We were neither discussing security (red herring) nor have I at any time even suggesting Mexicans or anybody else should not have medical emergencies treated. That's what I asked you to either prove or retract. And as for a terrorist dressing up as a Mexican and blowing up a hospital, you can't build a much bigger red herring than that.
As the doors slam shut on your nonsensical, fictional excuses for wanting to deprive the brown man of this or that; you generally fall back on your security position (since it's the only excuse you can't be completely discredited for on this subject, to date). I wrote in consideration of your past posting on this thread. Hardly a Red Herring. Rolling Eyes

Foxfyre wrote:
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Ps. Why don't you put you sig in your sig line like everyone else?


I have absolutely no clue what you're talking about here.
How could you not? Your must be taking an extra step to add the text quoted below to your every post; though why I have no idea...
Foxfyre wrote:
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 11:43 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Quote:
Ps. Why don't you put you sig in your sig line like everyone else?


I have absolutely no clue what you're talking about here.
How could you not? Your must be taking an extra step to add the text quoted below to your every post; though why I have no idea...


Well, some just need extra attractions.
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 11:44 am
Foxfyre wrote:

i cant, there is no place left, genius. unless i am to go into armed conflict with america to try to take a peice of land for myself? which i would gladly do if i though it would work to be honest, as i dont consider myself a citizen of any country.
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OGIONIK
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 11:46 am
au1929 wrote:
OGIONIK wrote:
IF WE CAN COME HERE AND TAKE THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY AND MURDEROUSLY, WHY DO WE CARE IF THEY WANT TO MOVE HERE AND BE PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF OUR SOCIETY, PEACEFULLY?

can you answer that? i highly doubt it. its hypocritical and unethical , but we're all for it so it seems.


If someone wants to move into your house and sit at your table without permission or even asking would you object if they were productive members of society.

What would you say if we allowed all to enter but refused to give them food stamps, emergency medical treatment, education to their children, and any social services?


your not seeing the point, its ok for us to go into a house, execute the family and move in, but not ok for other people to come in peacfully?


blind patriotism , well, enough said.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Mon 7 May, 2007 11:49 am
Well Obill, you're back to refusing to address the points made and just slinging ad hominems that you can't substantiate with anything anybody has said. So I'll desist from responding at all.

I'm sorry you don't like my sig line. I do. So I'll keep it.
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