What should be done about illegal immigration?

I'm sure there's a link somewhere on the New Mexico site. They usually don't post everything state officials say there though.

Foxfyre wrote:

I'm sure there's a link somewhere on the New Mexico site. They usually don't post everything state officials say there though.

I couln't find it in the Albuquerque Tribune (print edition) nor the Santa Fe Times (online)

Foxfyre wrote:

I'm sure there's a link somewhere on the New Mexico site. They usually don't post everything state officials say there though.

I couln't find it in the Albuquerque Tribune (print edition) nor the Santa Fe Times (online)

Why do you care?

Results:

The briefing slides in enclosure I address each of our three questions.
In summary, for our study population of 55,322 illegal aliens, we found
that:

* They were arrested at least a total of 459,614 times, averaging about
8 arrests per illegal alien. Nearly all had more than 1 arrest. Thirty-
eight percent (about 21,000) had between 2 and 5 arrests, 32 percent
(about 18,000) had between 6 and 10 arrests, and 26 percent (about
15,000) had 11 or more arrests. Most of the arrests occurred after
1990.

* They were arrested for a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses,
averaging about 13 offenses per illegal alien. One arrest incident may
include multiple offenses, a fact that explains why there are nearly
one and half times more offenses than arrests.[Footnote 6] Almost all
of these illegal aliens were arrested for more than 1 offense. Slightly
more than half of the 55,322 illegal aliens had between 2 and 10
offenses. About 45 percent of all offenses were drug or immigration
offenses. About 15 percent were property-related offenses such as
burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, and property damage.
About 12 percent were for violent offenses such as murder, robbery,
assault, and sex-related crimes. The balance was for such other
offenses as traffic violations, including driving under the influence;
fraud--including forgery and counterfeiting; weapons violations; and
obstruction of justice.

* Eighty percent of all arrests occurred in three states--California,
Texas, and Arizona. Specifically, about 58 percent of all arrests
occurred in California, 14 percent in Texas, and 8 percent in Arizona.

Foxfyre wrote:

Why do you care?

Well, you said that if one had a problem with the number, one should take it up with Madrid.

I hardly can quote as source "Foxfyre on A2K", I suppose.

The most accurate statistics on criminal illegal aliens are compiled by the GAO (General Accounting Office), not talk radio (!)

http://www.gao.gov/htext/d05646r.html

Quote:

Results:

The briefing slides in enclosure I address each of our three questions.
In summary, for our study population of 55,322 illegal aliens, we found
that:

* They were arrested at least a total of 459,614 times, averaging about
8 arrests per illegal alien. Nearly all had more than 1 arrest. Thirty-
eight percent (about 21,000) had between 2 and 5 arrests, 32 percent
(about 18,000) had between 6 and 10 arrests, and 26 percent (about
15,000) had 11 or more arrests. Most of the arrests occurred after
1990.

* They were arrested for a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses,
averaging about 13 offenses per illegal alien. One arrest incident may
include multiple offenses, a fact that explains why there are nearly
one and half times more offenses than arrests.[Footnote 6] Almost all
of these illegal aliens were arrested for more than 1 offense. Slightly
more than half of the 55,322 illegal aliens had between 2 and 10
offenses. About 45 percent of all offenses were drug or immigration
offenses. About 15 percent were property-related offenses such as
burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, and property damage.
About 12 percent were for violent offenses such as murder, robbery,
assault, and sex-related crimes. The balance was for such other
offenses as traffic violations, including driving under the influence;
fraud--including forgery and counterfeiting; weapons violations; and
obstruction of justice.

* Eighty percent of all arrests occurred in three states--California,
Texas, and Arizona. Specifically, about 58 percent of all arrests
occurred in California, 14 percent in Texas, and 8 percent in Arizona.

New Mexico isn't burdened with as many criminal illegal aliens as the other 3 states, but even so Gov. Richardson declared a state of emergency in 2005:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/12/newmexico/

To obtain information to answer these objectives, we identified a
population of 55,322 aliens that the U.S. Immigration and Customs
Enforcement (ICE) in the Department of Homeland Security determined,
based upon information in its immigration databases, had entered the
country illegally and were still illegally in the country at the time
of their incarceration in federal or state prison or local jail during
fiscal year 2003.

Foxfyre wrote:

a disproportionate percentage of the rapes, murders, drunk drivers, burglaries, drug trafficking, jail and prison populations in New Mexico and other border states involve people who are here illegally.

Yes, I've heard that claim made quite frequently. Do you have any actual numbers on that - especially about New Mexico? It's possible that this has been mentioned or posted earlier on this thread, but I hope you wouldn't mind to post these numbers again. It would help to have a more productive discussion on the topic, I think.

There are some peeps who don't mind making posts/statements which further their agenda which include data that is not only questionable but absolutely wrong and then take the postion that they are only passing on information they heard somewhere and are not responsible for truth.

dyslexia wrote:

There are some peeps who don't mind making posts/statements which further their agenda which include data that is not only questionable but absolutely wrong and then take the postion that they are only passing on information they heard somewhere and are not responsible for truth.

Astonishing how often that happens with some posters, isn't it?

Cycloptichorn

old europe wrote:

Foxfyre wrote:

a disproportionate percentage of the rapes, murders, drunk drivers, burglaries, drug trafficking, jail and prison populations in New Mexico and other border states involve people who are here illegally.

Yes, I've heard that claim made quite frequently. Do you have any actual numbers on that - especially about New Mexico? It's possible that this has been mentioned or posted earlier on this thread, but I hope you wouldn't mind to post these numbers again. It would help to have a more productive discussion on the topic, I think.

Okay, just checking in to see if anybody has found anything on New Mexico. Apparently not. Hm.

I found ebrown's link to be quite interesting and thought I might as well repost the data from the U.S. Department of Justice...

Code: Noncitizens held in prison Percent of all inmates
6/30/05 6/30/04

Federal 35,285 34,442 19.3%
California 16,613 17,890 10.1
Texas 9,346 9,048 6.0
New York* 7,444 8,027 11.8
Florida 4,772 4,834 5.6
Arizona 4,179 3,924 12.7
Nevada 1,402 1,242 12.6
North Carolina 1,182 868 3.2
Illinois 1,065 782 4.2
Colorado* 1,029 1,022 5.1

*Report foreign-born inmates rather than noncitizens.

There was a bit more in that report:

• State and Federal correctional authorities held 91,117 noncitizens (6.4% of all prisoners), down from 91,815 at midyear 2004.
• At midyear 2005, 61% of noncitizen prisoners held in State facilities; 39% in Federal facilities.
• California, Texas, New York, Florida, and Arizona held over 75% of all
noncitizens confined in State prisons.

However, that does neither confirm nor refute the claim Foxfyre made about New Mexico...

It seems to me that Foxfyre may be mistaken about what Patricia Madrid said...

Things said during a campaign about a controversial issue are usually readily available. The fact that this alleged quote is nowhere to be found is interesting.

As the White House and Congress prepare to overhaul the nation's immigration laws, U.S. officials have concluded that they lack the technology and resources to handle the millions of applications for legal residency that could result from the changes and that several efforts to modernize computers have gone astray.