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I Was Invisible, Except for My White Skin

 
 
shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 01:27 pm
http://able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1041524&highlight=#1041524

see...
THAT character..
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 01:37 pm
Can i watch Bella's and Chai's seats?

Just don't tell the Sweetiepie Girl, 'K?
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 01:39 pm
The Wolf Woman gots a nice seat, too . . . she posted a piccie once't . . . with a whale tail . . . i'm really gonna be in trouble now . . .
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Amigo
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 01:40 pm
Chai Tea wrote:
Amigo wrote:
Chai Tea wrote:
Amigo wrote:
Woman are traditionally ..... mothers.


good catch amigo....you're correct, men are not traditionally mothers. Surprised
I hope what I said doesn't translate into male chauvinist. My grandma, my sister, and my mom all pick better fruit then me, my dad and my grad dad. But I have never seen any evidence of racial inferior seat watching. Laughing

This is ridiculous.

"Can't we all just get along without kook?" -Rodney King



I'm really good at picking bananas, mmmm...when they're just perfect, not too sweet.

I bought a papaya once, it looked like it would be really sweet, but tasted like styrofoam....where'd I go wrong?

I always ask little kids to watch my seat...they think I'm giving them something important to do, then, they promptly forget within 30 seconds.
You picked the papaya when it wasn't ripe yet (I think). When there ripe they almost look like their about to go bad. It sounds nasty but you want them when they even have a little bit of over ripe spots but you will see when you cut into them they are good.

Does any body see the irony in this thread of me a man giving a women advice on fruit. Laughing

Just to be politically correct next time I'm in a theater i'm going to go out of my way to find a white woman to watch my seat even if I have to go 5 isles up. At witch point all the black and mexican women will jump up and yell;

"Whats wrong with you you Mexican son of a bitch. Can't a black woman watch your seat?"

Then the mexican woman will yell "Yea, you biche puto, I bet all we can do is pick out your damn fruit for you."

Then the white woman will pull a bottle of mace out jump on my seat and yell "I watch seats and pick fruit better then all you Bitches."

Were all doomed.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 01:42 pm
Amigo, you crack me up. Laughing
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 01:46 pm
Very Happy
Me too..
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Chai
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 01:51 pm
Amigo wrote:
Just to be politically correct next time I'm in a theater i'm going to go out of my way to find a white woman to watch my seat even if I have to go 5 isles up.




But then the white woman would clutch her handbag to her chest and scream "This chulo is trying to steal my purse!"

Amigo, my little chulito.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 01:53 pm
That makes me happy. Very Happy

You see kuk! This is how you make freinds. I learned it in pre-school. I got plenty-O stickers for "play nice with others"
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 01:55 pm
hey ess'ay
you a funny brown boy


Laughing
Laughing
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 01:56 pm
Dont worry set. ..

ill give you my webcam site.

watch away anonie-miss-ly Very Happy
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Amigo
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 01:59 pm
Chai Tea wrote:
Amigo wrote:
Just to be politically correct next time I'm in a theater i'm going to go out of my way to find a white woman to watch my seat even if I have to go 5 isles up.




But then the white woman would clutch her handbag to her chest and scream "This chulo is trying to steal my purse!"

Amigo, my little chulito.
Yea, then when they haul little amigo away and all the women will sit down (In my seat Evil or Very Mad ) and say "The nerve of that damn chulo" and all watch the movie together.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 02:01 pm
Ok
i am a total loser

we all know that



and i just NOW saw your signature Chai....

holy fukn hell.... Laughing Laughing
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Kuk
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 08:39 pm
Okay, I have been thinking about this, and I'd like to apologize for sounding a little bit antagonistic before. I get worked up like that sometimes. Sorry. It's just my little crazy problem again. lol

However, I in no way apologize for my initial response to this thread, and I would like to leave you with one last thought about why I take issue with what you said in your first post. Take what you will from it.

What I would like to ask you to do is to imagine telling your story to someone like this guy, or maybe this guy.

How much empathy do you think you'd get if you told them your little story about the "discrimination" you experienced? They'd probably pat you on the head patronizingly and smile in agreement, but I'd be willing to bet good hard cash that in their minds, they'd be saying something along the lines of...

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Aaaaw, the poor little white girl got her feelings hurt. Alert the media!


It offends me that you felt the need to pretend that you have some firsthand knowledge of what discrimination feels like by telling everyone your little "brush with the ignorant black ladies" story. It smacks of bad taste and meddlesome self-righteousness.

You could have made your point by simply saying the three words, "discrimination is bad," but instead you decided to tell your story first, so that we'd all know how it affected YOU. As if you are a "sister in the fight," or a kindred spirit who has been victimized too. Any person who has experienced real racism would easily understand why I responded as I did.

Now I'll leave you to your thread.

Have a nice day, and don't forget to think before you speak.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 08:42 pm
Kuk wrote:
. . . and don't forget to think before you speak.


Get yerself a mirror before the next time you say this . . .
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Eorl
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 08:45 pm
Kuk,

Perhaps you'd like to outline how much racism is OK and to what degree between different people.

For example, black ladies ignoring a white is OK, but what about an Asian man spitting at a Jew...is that worse than the other way around? Irish jokes are funny but nigger jokes not so much? You seem to be the self-appointed authority on acceptable racism so let's see the details!
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 09:01 pm
Kuk wrote:

What I would like to ask you to do is to imagine telling your story to someone like this guy, or maybe this guy.

How much empathy do you think you'd get if you told them your little story about the "discrimination" you experienced? They'd probably pat you on the head patronizingly and smile in agreement, but I'd be willing to bet good hard cash that in their minds, they'd be saying something along the lines of...

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Aaaaw, the poor little white girl got her feelings hurt. Alert the media!

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Of course she is going to tell her story first.
The whole reason for starting the post was her talking about how it made her feel.

There are many unknown factors as to why this woman looked ( literally) over her to choose another woman to 'save her seat'.
Maybe , at that point in time, Bella looked too involved and this womans decision was , in her mind , a sign of respect? Who knows?

But the fact is that it left Bella in a state of question , wich made her think in broader terms.

You cant minimize what a person feels by someones actions.

And for her , this was bothersome.
No, not on a racial level that OTHERS experience, there you are absolutly right. There will always be someone out there who has experienced racisim MORE then the next person..

But on a basic human level, this bothered her.
Kuk wrote:

It offends me that you felt the need to pretend that you have some firsthand knowledge of what discrimination feels like by telling everyone your little "brush with the ignorant black ladies" story. It smacks of bad taste and meddlesome self-righteousness..


Why?

If this is the extent of 'racisim' someone has experienced, why is it rude for that person to speak of how it made them feel?

Feeling less than because of something you can not control , such as skin color, leaves all humans in a bit of pain and frustration.
No matter to what degree it happens.

Kuk wrote:

You could have made your point by simply saying the three words, "discrimination is bad," but instead you decided to tell your story first, so that we'd all know how it affected YOU. As if you are a "sister in the fight," or a kindred spirit who has been victimized too. Any person who has experienced real racism would easily understand why I responded as I did.


I have been the object of racisim. From rape to beatings.
I do understand where you are coming from, but I dont get the hostility.

I think the key here is personal perception.
She is lucky that this , if this was all about race, was all she has experienced. But I dont angrily minimize because this story IS about her, and how it made HER feel. And it is followed with HER realizing or imagining how it would feel for someone on a grander scale..
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detano inipo
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 09:07 pm
It always shocks me to see a Jew hate blacks or a black hate Asians. If you belong to a suffering group, it should make you tolerant towards another hated group.
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When I see a picture of Iraqi prisoners, I feel very sorry for them. Some of them may be guilty, but all of them should be treated humanely.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 09:08 pm
Kinda makes ya wonder about that "First Nations" joker who is being prosecuted for his remarks about Jews, eh? Where is that, Saskatoon?
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detano inipo
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 09:12 pm
Yes, I remember that Chief who was full of racism. I believe he was punished for his remarks.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Mon 3 Apr, 2006 09:13 pm
So when did we, as a society , decide to let simple remarks go, and only respond to situations like Kuk quoted?

( being dragged to death on the back of a truck simply because you are black for example.. )
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