50,000 Errors in the Bible...Is Bible God's Word??

The expression of feeling things in one's heart has become understandable in that it means one's emotions which, are, of course, a response of the brain. However, I think that expression came forth from changes in hearbeat from meeting someone new one is attracted to and other emotional reponses which affect the "automatic" nervous system which alos, for example, includes breathing. So we could also state that we feel something in our lungs. Not sure about feeling something in one's pancreas, however.

(Well, excepting that if the brain inadvertantly allows one to drink too much alcohol, the pancreas can start screaming).

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xingu wrote:

Mehdi

All one has to do is look at the behavior of the Muslims today and that alone tells us of the hate and intolerance found in the Koran.

The behavior of the Muslims in reaction to some cartoons making fun of Muhammad.

The reaction of Muslims in Afghanistan when one of their own converted to Christianity.

Their persecution and killing of Christians that try to convert Muslims.

The bloody civil war in Algeria in which religious conservatives slaughtered innocent women and children, fellow Muslims, all in the name of Allah.

The way the Muslims treat their women in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and other conservative regions of the Muslim world.

Their intolerance to freedom of expression and lifestyles.

Their barbaric punishments for crimes, such stoning to death, cutting off hands and decapitation.

I don't need to read the Koran. I don't need cheap talk about how wonderful the Muslim religion is. All I have to do is look at its followers.

Algeria bans promoting Christianity.

More Afghanistan Christians Face Execution, Rights Group Warns

Teacher Accused of Blasphemy in Nigeria Disappears

Saudi Hate Literature distributed in American Mosques.

The bottom line is your religion is a failure. It preaches hate and intolerance. It cannot live in a free world. It cannot live peacefully with other religions and lifestyles. The reason is the Koran. The Koran is full of hate and intolerance for all that is not Muslim. The Muslim religion will be the source of war and death in the future because it can't tolerate anything non-Muslim.

Just remember, when you look out in the world today and you see Muslims killing fellow Muslims or non-Muslims, it's almost always in the name of Allah.

And yet your president has committed far more crimes in the past two years than all the examples you just made. Not to mention he believes he is God-sent on this Earth to revive the crusades. I assume he got his inspiration from the Quran?

Who do you think started the process of racial extermination? Certainly Hitler wasn't that smart to start the concept.

Lets not judge other people. :wink:

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in the name of allah

that's it brother, but let's say something else

xingu wrote:

The behavior of the Muslims in reaction to some cartoons making fun of Muhammad.

maybe one day they will make cartoons of yourself or at least some of your familly and you'll watch your reaction.

xingu wrote:

The reaction of Muslims in Afghanistan when one of their own converted to Christianity.

islam is our law, tell your government that you're an outlaw and see what will arrive to you.

xingu wrote:

Their persecution and killing of Christians that try to convert Muslims.

The bloody civil war in Algeria in which religious conservatives slaughtered innocent women and children, fellow Muslims, all in the name of Allah.

The way the Muslims treat their women in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and other conservative regions of the Muslim world.

Their intolerance to freedom of expression and lifestyles.

propagandas and generalizations

xingu wrote:

Their barbaric punishments for crimes, such stoning to death, cutting off hands and decapitation.

islamic punishments are made to stop doing the same thing, and this is not as barbaric as toeture and calling whitnesses to see an electrical chair barbaric punishment.

xingu wrote:

I don't need to read the Koran. I don't need cheap talk about how wonderful the Muslim religion is. All I have to do is look at its followers.

so by your own logic, have the courage and tell us where are you from or what is your religion and we will tell you what your sweet grand-fathers did in the name of whatever.

xingu wrote:

Algeria bans promoting Christianity.

More Afghanistan Christians Face Execution, Rights Group Warns

Teacher Accused of Blasphemy in Nigeria Disappears

Saudi Hate Literature distributed in American Mosques.[/xingu]

Just remember, when you look out in the world today and you see Muslims killing fellow Muslims or non-Muslims, it's almost always in the name of Allah.

xingu wrote:

The bottom line is your religion is a failure. It preaches hate and intolerance.

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ALLAH forbids you not respecting those who have not fought against you on account of your religion, and who have not driven you out from your homes, that you be kind to them and deal equitably with them; surely, ALLAH loves those who are equitable.
ALLAH only forbids you respecting those who have fought against you on account of your religion and have driven you out of your homes, and have helped others in driving you out, that you make friends with them, and whosoever makes friends with them - it is these that are transgressors. [quran 60:8-9]

xingu wrote:

It cannot live in a free world.

a free world ????? you thing you're in a free world, what is freedom that you are talking about, just try to be an out-law where you live and answer me from the jail, or the electrical chair maybe.

xingu wrote:

It cannot live peacefully with other religions and lifestyles. The reason is the Koran. The Koran is full of hate and intolerance for all that is not Muslim.

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ALLAH forbids you not respecting those who have not fought against you on account of your religion, and who have not driven you out from your homes, that you be kind to them and deal equitably with them; surely, ALLAH loves those who are equitable.
ALLAH only forbids you respecting those who have fought against you on account of your religion and have driven you out of your homes, and have helped others in driving you out, that you make friends with them, and whosoever makes friends with them - it is these that are transgressors. [quran 60:8-9]

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O ye who believe ! be strict in observing justice and be witnesses for ALLAH, even though it be against yourselves or against your parents or kindred. Whether he, against whom witness is borne, be rich or poor, ALLAH is more regardful of them both than you are. Therefore follow not your low desires that you may be able to act equitably. And if you hide the truth or evade it, then know that ALLAH is Well-Aware of what you do. [quran 4:135]

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O ye who believe ! be steadfast in the cause of ALLAH, bearing witness in equity; and let not a people's enmity incite you to act otherwise than with justice. Be always just. That is nearer to righteousness. And fear ALLAH. Surely, ALLAH is Aware of what you do. [quran 5:8]

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There is no compulsion in religion. Surely the right has become distinct from error; so whosoever refuses to be led by those who transgress and believes in ALLAH, has surely grasped a strong handle which knows no breaking. And ALLAH is All-Hearing. All-Knowing. [quran 2:256]

xingu wrote:

The Muslim religion will be the source of war and death in the future because it can't tolerate anything non-Muslim.

maybe you are affraid of the millions of people that embrace islam that why you found nothing to say but this.

Montana wrote:

I have to disagree with this. I may believe in god, but not the same god that all the religions believe in, and I don't feel the need to search for anything.

I don't believe in the bible, church or any form of organized religion.

What I feel I feel in my heart and it's as simple as that

all the humain beings whatever their religions believe that there is one who created us, since you believe in god you must believe that he created us for some reason, that's why anyone in this earth is searching for the truth.
also no one can live without religion even if he claims that all the religions are false or such thing, he has principles in his life that obligates him to do or not to do, this is something that allah created on us no matter what people say, they feel it.

well, at last i will say, many apologizes brothers i think i got out of the subject of the topic, i think i have to leave the topic for you.
sorry again i'm leaving the topic.

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mehdi wrote:

maybe one day they will make cartoons of yourself or at least some of your familly and you'll watch your reaction.

You're completely right. Any sane man would go out and shoot the cartoonist for such an affront!

xingu wrote:

islam is our law, tell your government that you're an outlaw and see what will arrive to you.

They will look at you like you're silly and then ignore you. Unless you've bombed an embassy, at which point they'll imprison you for trial. (note, nowhere in there did I make mention of them shooting you on the spot or bombing your family's house)

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propagandas and generalizations

In other words, the language of islam.

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islamic punishments are made to stop doing the same thing, and this is not as barbaric as toeture and calling whitnesses to see an electrical chair barbaric punishment.

Barbaric is barbaric.

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so by your own logic, have the courage and tell us where are you from or what is your religion and we will tell you what your sweet grand-fathers did in the name of whatever.

So by your own logic, because it was done in the past you therefore have the right to continue it in the present? So you're saying that the reason radical islamists are so violent is because they feel they have a score to settle? And this fits in with islamists assertion that theirs is a peaceful religion. . .how?

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copy and paste is as simple as this, take, swallow :

Note the main difference between Xingu's links and yours is that Xingu gathered 4 links from 4 sources, whereas you pulled 30 from the same pro-islam site. Not a very strong case at all. All it proves is that there are other wingnuts like you out there.

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also no one can live without religion even if he claims that all the religions are false or such thing, he has principles in his life that obligates him to do or not to do, this is something that allah created on us no matter what people say, they feel it.

Does having principles equate to having a religion? I wonder.

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Uh, I thought I was gointg to read some more comical errors in the Bible. Aparently, I walked into the Let's hate Muslims thread.

Islam is not a violent religion anymore than Christianity. Remember that Isam is a younger religion. If Barbaric is Barbaric, Islam still comes in second to the Christians. Islam is young, sure it ma need some reform to get with the modern day culture, but even the Catholics had reform.

The Muslims haven't done anything that hasn't been done before. For that they have done mush less.

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Uh, I thought I was gointg to read some more comical errors in the Bible. Aparently, I walked into the Let's hate Muslims thread.

Islam is not a violent religion anymore than Christianity. Remember that Isam is a younger religion. If Barbaric is Barbaric, Islam still comes in second to the Christians. Islam is young, sure it ma need some reform to get with the modern day culture, but even the Catholics had reform.

The Muslims haven't done anything that hasn't been done before. For that they have done mush less. The only difference is the time and place.

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Diest TKO wrote:

Islam is not a violent religion anymore than Christianity. Remember that Isam is a younger religion. If Barbaric is Barbaric, Islam still comes in second to the Christians. Islam is young, sure it ma need some reform to get with the modern day culture, but even the Catholics had reform. The Muslims haven't done anything that hasn't been done before. For that they have done mush less.

you are naive and deluded about Islam. It was born through violence, spread through violence and perpetrates violent acts today. Whatever you might say about chrisitians, they dont go around bombing for Jesus. Not that I give a damn.

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Diest TKO wrote:

Uh, I thought I was gointg to read some more comical errors in the Bible. Aparently, I walked into the Let's hate Muslims thread.

Islam is not a violent religion anymore than Christianity. Remember that Isam is a younger religion. If Barbaric is Barbaric, Islam still comes in second to the Christians. Islam is young, sure it ma need some reform to get with the modern day culture, but even the Catholics had reform.

The Muslims haven't done anything that hasn't been done before. For that they have done mush less.

So because the Christians did it in the past, the muslims feel it's their right to do it now?

Ok then.

Here's a question for you:

How long are you whackos gonna keep justifying the faults of your religion by comparing it with Christianity? Is islam so ridiculously barren of self-worth that it can't stand alone?

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I'm not a Muslim, I'm a Deist (<--note the misspelling).

I'm not saying that Islamic radicalism is justified in any way, what I'm saying is that Islam is not any more flawed than Christianity. Islam is about 600 years old, look at what Christians were doing at about 600 years into their existance. Their is a real cultural correlation and pattern in the development of any ideology.

As for Christians bombing people, I don't care. Who said that they were forgiven for their violence just because it was long ago? How many Christians have comitted acts of violence today towards homosexuals? How many Christians have had racial attacks on black people and burn crosses?

The point is that Radical Muslims represent Islam about as much as the KKK or Nazi's represent modern day Christians.

Islam is no more violent or dangerous than any other religion.

Also, please refrain from the name calling. No one here is a "whacko." If your ability to commmunicate and reason has failed to this degree, I would suggest withdrawing frmo conversation as opposed to making a fool of yourself.

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Pox on all three Jewish, Christian and Muslim religions.

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Diest TKO wrote:

Uh, I thought I was gointg to read some more comical errors in the Bible. Aparently, I walked into the Let's hate Muslims thread.

Actually, it started off as a "Let's Bash the Bible thread" became a Muslim's "Let's bash Christians" thread and has now become a "hate Christian/Muslim" thread.

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If Barbaric is Barbaric, Islam still comes in second to the Christians.

I'd say they were equal.

Steve (as 41oo) wrote:

Whatever you might say about chrisitians, they dont go around bombing for Jesus.

That's a lie and you know it. What about those Christian wingnuts that bomb abortion clinics? Well, you could argue they're pro-lifers and aren't "bombing for Jesus", but it could be argued those Islamic radicals aren't "bombing for Muhammed".

Death threats, bombs, anthrax scares...

I'd say both sides were as guilty, wouldn't you?

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Wolf_ODonnell wrote:

Steve (as 41oo) wrote:
Whatever you might say about chrisitians, they dont go around bombing for Jesus.

That's a lie and you know it. What about those Christian wingnuts that bomb abortion clinics? Well, you could argue they're pro-lifers and aren't "bombing for Jesus", but it could be argued those Islamic radicals aren't "bombing for Muhammed".

I do indeed argue that they are not "bombing for Jesus". Futhermore I never asserted the radical Islamists were "bombing for Mohammed". They shout "God is great" just before they detonate. They are doing "Gods will" by killing, something that appears unique to Islam. I dont agree that all religions are equally good or bad. There is a blind intolerance within Islam which stems out of their belief that the Koran is the absolute pure final and perfect word of God. Which of course, as we all know, its not.

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Steve (as 41oo) wrote:

I do indeed argue that they are not "bombing for Jesus". Futhermore I never asserted the radical Islamists were "bombing for Mohammed". They shout "God is great" just before they detonate. They are doing "Gods will" by killing, something that appears unique to Islam. I dont agree that all religions are equally good or bad. There is a blind intolerance within Islam which stems out of their belief that the Koran is the absolute pure final and perfect word of God. Which of course, as we all know, its not.

Truth be told, this blind ignorance is of a recent breed. Such blind ignorance was not present during the olden days when the Muslims made far more scientific advances than the Christian Europeans. That is why I do not associate it with Islam, per se.

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Diest TKO wrote:

I'm not a Muslim, I'm a Deist (<--note the misspelling).

I'm not saying that Islamic radicalism is justified in any way, what I'm saying is that Islam is not any more flawed than Christianity. Islam is about 600 years old, look at what Christians were doing at about 600 years into their existance. Their is a real cultural correlation and pattern in the development of any ideology.

Again, why isn't the Islamist faith strong enough to stand on it's own without comparisons to Christianity?

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As for Christians bombing people, I don't care. Who said that they were forgiven for their violence just because it was long ago? How many Christians have comitted acts of violence today towards homosexuals? How many Christians have had racial attacks on black people and burn crosses?

Again, why isn't the Islamist faith strong enough to stand on it's own without comparisons to Christianity?

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The point is that Radical Muslims represent Islam about as much as the KKK or Nazi's represent modern day Christians.

That is not the point at all. I'm not bringing Christians into this at all. They're equally as whacky in my opinion, but for some reason, whenever Islam has been questioned on this board it draws harsh rebukes, NOT against the person or persons that bring those questions up, but against the christian faith.

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Islam is no more violent or dangerous than any other religion.

It certainly appears to be at the moment.

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Also, please refrain from the name calling. No one here is a "whacko." If your ability to commmunicate and reason has failed to this degree, I would suggest withdrawing frmo conversation as opposed to making a fool of yourself.

Islamists are whacko's. This is not name-calling, it is efficient and accurate labeling. If it doesn't apply to you, then perhaps you could refrain from being offended?

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Wolf_ODonnell wrote:

Truth be told, this blind ignorance is of a recent breed. Such blind ignorance was not present during the olden days...

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Montana wrote:

jespah wrote:
Y'know, maybe it doesn't matter how many camels Solomon had, or how many days it says in the Koran that the earth was created and all of the other contradictory minutiae that are in these books and pretty much all other religious books.

Maybe it matters how people feel.
Maybe it matters how people treat one another.
Maybe it matters how people work for justice and truth and mercy and kindness.
Maybe charity matters.
Maybe tolerance matters.
Maybe respect matters.

And who the hell cares about the number of freakin' camels, anyway?

You go girl! Now that's what I'm talkin about

Thank you for graciously acknowledging that. I see no one else gives a flying rat's patoot.

A pity.

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The KKK being grouped with the Nazi's is really warped. The KKK was, in fact, and as it still exists today although more stealthy, a Christian gremlin. The Nazis had about as much connection to Christianity as oil has to water. It was distinctly secular even though fascism in this country has taken on a distinctly religious aura.

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If I knew what a flying rat's patoot was, I would surely give one...charity you know.

You are absolutely right Jespah.

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Jespah is the world authority on flying rat's patoots and on tin foil hats.

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Thanks, particulary rats wearing tinfoil hats on their, um, patoots. For decency's sake, yanno.

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