WHY ISLAM IS BECOMING THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION..Serious

Abid wrote:

The the strong anthopic principle implies that the purpose of the universe is to give rise to intelligent life with the laws of nature and their fundamental constants set to ensure that life as we know it will emerge and evolve.

The key words here are purpose if something has a purpose than it must be logically presumed that it had been pre-concieved. If it was pre-concieved then it must have been designed. If it was designed it must have been designed for a reason, by something.
The age old, eternal question then reappears - WHY ARE WE HERE!!!!!!!
What would be the purpose of the pre-decree of our creation?
it simply makes no sense that it would be to just play out existence since the attributes of God suggest he is All-knowing, past and present.
The only true outcome after contemplation could be that we were created as slaves for worship.
If we believe we were pre-concieved, then we must also assume that we would receive guidance.
This guidance comes in the form of messengers from God Almighty.
These prophets and messenger, performed miracles witnessesd by thousands of people in certain cases.
How could this possibly be fabricated?
How could all these people be duped into believing these pious men were anything but sent by God as Muslims? (Submitters to Gods Will)

Abid wrote:

mesquite wrote:

Abid wrote:

mesquite wrote:

Abid wrote:

I will never tire from relaying the word of Gog an hopefully save as many people from damnation as possible.

Abid, Why do you suppose Gog would possibly care which foot one of us lowly humans uses to enter and leave the toilet with? #79

Does Gog really care how many times you pull it, and if so what is the significance of the number three? #73.

I gotta tell ya Abid, stones and clods sound like very unsuitable materials for cleaning your butt, and cloth seems just downright wasteful and might even cause plumbing problems. Do you think that if Muhammad had known about toilet tissue he might have approved it's use? Hmm, there's that three again. #68 & #69

Sorry, what has this got to do with Islam being the truth, or it spreading like wild fire?
You arguments have no basis or warrent for discussion.

Soap and the first toothbrushes originated from Muslim countries, so pay a little respect. #

Some more information regarding Islamic pioneers in medicine and science

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

Were the questions so difficult that you can only ignore them?

What questions?
Why does the right or left matter?
why three?
Why do we have 5 fingers on each hand?
Why two hands, feet eyes etc...?
Why do we grow facial hair?
Why do only women have milk?
Why does the sun have an orbit?
Why?
Why?
Why?
Some questions doent have answers. We should trust that God know what is best for us.
Muhammed (saw) did not speak of his own accord.

Sounds like Islam is a recipe for ignorance. The rest of us are actually interested in the world and the universe around us, and we've found out a great deal about it. Certainly a lot more than was know in Mohammed's day. Why do you continue to immerse yourself in medieval myth and nonsense?

My point was certain questions CANNOT be answered no matter how smart you may think you are.

Abid wrote:

My point was certain questions CANNOT be answered no matter how smart you may think you are.

They used to say that about a lot of things to which we have found the answer. "We can never know what the stars are made of!", was said just prior to the invention of the spectrascope which enabled us to determine the composition of a star by analysis of its light. Its just not good enough to shrug our shoulders and say God is in the gaps of our ignorance.

I'm well aware many "modern" ideas had their origins in muslim countries. But look what we in the west have done with those ideas, and compare it with the stagnation over the last 400 years under Islam.

you are talking without knowledge and if you cannot be bothered to do your research into history to find out how the prophet Mohammed (saw) lived and acted in his life then you really should speak.

PLEASE LOOK AT Post: 2397937 - To see what NON-MUSLIM HISTORIANS WROTE AT ABOUT HIM (saw).

the Arabs were a nation who memorized more than they wrote.
At the time of the prophets (saw) there were THOUSANDS of companions.

TODAY THOUSANDS HAVE MEMORIZED THE QURAN FROM START TO FINISH. IT IS NOT A SMALL BOOK EITHER!!
THE YOUNGEST ON RECORD was 6 YEARS OLD!!!

HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY BELIEVE THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE, who memorized, could believe something that was not there to begin with!!!! (emoticon removed in the interest of adult conversation)

You will never be able to answer certain 'WHY' quetions because we do not know the beyond.

You will never be able to answer certain 'WHY' quetions because we do not know the beyond.

WHAT questions are somewhat simpler as the subject and question are more defined and less philosphical.

Abid wrote:

You will never be able to answer certain 'WHY' quetions because we do not know the beyond.

WHAT questions are somewhat simpler as the subject and question are more defined and less philosphical.

Abid, I can understand how rules #68 & #69 would have been reasonable for a desert dweller living in the 7th century considering the materials available to him. Requiring the use of those same materials in the 21st century is not timeless. It is backward.

Since you have an aversion to "WHY" questions, let me try it another way. For those muslims that live in a modern city with indoor plumbing...and who do not wish to question why, but readily accept "because the prophet did it that way" as reason enough....WHAT do they do with the used materials?

Abid wrote:

you are talking without knowledge and if you cannot be bothered to do your research into history to find out how the prophet Mohammed (saw) lived and acted in his life then you really should speak.

PLEASE LOOK AT Post: 2397937 - To see what NON-MUSLIM HISTORIANS WROTE AT ABOUT HIM (saw).

the Arabs were a nation who memorized more than they wrote.
At the time of the prophets (saw) there were THOUSANDS of companions.

TODAY THOUSANDS HAVE MEMORIZED THE QURAN FROM START TO FINISH. IT IS NOT A SMALL BOOK EITHER!!
THE YOUNGEST ON RECORD was 6 YEARS OLD!!!

HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY BELIEVE THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE, who memorized, could believe something that was not there to begin with!!!! (emoticon removed in the interest of adult conversation)

Muslim historians confirm that your prophet was illiterate. Muslim historians confirmed that he married several times, and married wealthy widows (he was a ne'er-do-well who relied on those widows for his money). Muslim historians confirm that he married a nine-year old girl. He was someone who would be universally condemned in civilized societies if he were alive today.

It is a simple matter to believe that people who memorized something can believe what is not there to begin with. The source of the material they memorize cannot reasonably be considered at the outset to have been reliable, nor free from venal and personally self-agrandizing agendae. With the passage of centuries, there is no basis upon which to assert that nothing was changed, or added, to what was originally the putative "word of god" peddled by an illiterate, violent, sexual predator who preferred to marry widows than to actually earn a decent living on his own.

Your boy Mohammed is far from an admirable creature, and your mindless worship of "the Prophet" is a blasphemy by your own religious terms as you venerate a mere man as though he were a god himself.

Get a clue, your superstition is not superior to anyone else's superstition.

Raul7

Point of information...

"Blasphemy" by definition cannot be "nonsense". It is a direct challenge to so-called "sacred ideas". Islam is notable for still applying the death penalty for such challenges . That tells us quite a lot about the psychology of subscribers.

Abid wrote:

you are talking without knowledge and if you cannot be bothered to do your research into history to find out how the prophet Mohammed (saw) lived and acted in his life then you really should speak.

PLEASE LOOK AT Post: 2397937 - To see what NON-MUSLIM HISTORIANS WROTE AT ABOUT HIM (saw).

the Arabs were a nation who memorized more than they wrote.
At the time of the prophets (saw) there were THOUSANDS of companions.

TODAY THOUSANDS HAVE MEMORIZED THE QURAN FROM START TO FINISH. IT IS NOT A SMALL BOOK EITHER!!
THE YOUNGEST ON RECORD was 6 YEARS OLD!!!

HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY BELIEVE THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE, who memorized, could believe something that was not there to begin with!!!! (emoticon removed in the interest of adult conversation)

Muslim historians confirm that your prophet was illiterate. Muslim historians confirmed that he married several times, and married wealthy widows (he was a ne'er-do-well who relied on those widows for his money). Muslim historians confirm that he married a nine-year old girl. He was someone who would be universally condemned in civilized societies if he were alive today.

It is a simple matter to believe that people who memorized something can believe what is not there to begin with. The source of the material they memorize cannot reasonably be considered at the outset to have been reliable, nor free from venal and personally self-agrandizing agendae. With the passage of centuries, there is no basis upon which to assert that nothing was changed, or added, to what was originally the putative "word of god" peddled by an illiterate, violent, sexual predator who preferred to marry widows than to actually earn a decent living on his own.

Your boy Mohammed is far from an admirable creature, and your mindless worship of "the Prophet" is a blasphemy by your own religious terms as you venerate a mere man as though he were a god himself.

Get a clue, your superstition is not superior to anyone else's superstition.

Abid wrote:

You will never be able to answer certain 'WHY' quetions because we do not know the beyond.

WHAT questions are somewhat simpler as the subject and question are more defined and less philosphical.

Abid, I can understand how rules #68 & #69 would have been reasonable for a desert dweller living in the 7th century considering the materials available to him. Requiring the use of those same materials in the 21st century is not timeless. It is backward.

Since you have an aversion to "WHY" questions, let me try it another way. For those muslims that live in a modern city with indoor plumbing...and who do not wish to question why, but readily accept "because the prophet did it that way" as reason enough....WHAT do they do with the used materials?

ALL YOUR ARGUMENTS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED FROM THE BEGINNING OF ISLAM AND WE ARE STILL GROWING IN NUMBER.!!!!

I just wanted to point out that i never piss or **** on my hands, and i never, ever walk down the street whistling.

If a women is menstrating, then in the eyes of God, she is ready to give birth.!

Again, look at the bigger picture. Ayesha (mAbpwh) grew up to be considered as one of the foremost scholars of Islam's early age and is revered as a role model by millions of women.!!

She is known to be one of the greatest collector of Hadith (sayings and actions of the prophet)

Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151:
Narrated 'Aisha:
I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)

Her father, Abu Bakr, consented to the marrage, and was the closest friend, like a brother to the prophet!! - He became leader of the Muslims after Mohammeds death.

Some Muslims claim that it was Abu Bakr who approached Muhammad asking him to marry his daughter. This is of course not true and here is the proof.

Sahih Bukhari 7.18
Narrated 'Ursa:
The Prophet asked Abu Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother." The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."

Arabs were a primitive lot with little rules to abide. Yet they had some code of ethics that they honored scrupulously. For example, although they fought all the year round, they abstained from hostilities during certain holy months of the year. They also considered Mecca to be a holy city and did not make war against it. An adopted son's wife was deemed to be a daughter in law and they would not marry her. Also it was customary that close friends made a pact of brotherhood and considered each other as true brothers. The Prophet disregarded all of these rules anytime they stood between him and his interests or whims.

Abu Bakr and Muhammad had pledged to each other to be brothers. So according to their costoms Ayesha was supposed to be like a niece to the Holy Prophet. Yet that did not stop him to ask her hand even when she was only six years old.
But this moral relativist Prophet would use the same excuse to reject a woman he did not like.

Sahih Bukhari V.7, B62, N. 37
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:
It was said to the Prophet, "Won't you marry the daughter of Hamza?" He said, "She is my foster niece (brother's daughter). "

Hamza and Abu Bakr both were the foster brothers of Muhammad. But Ayesha must have been too pretty for the Prophet to abide by the codes of ethics and custom.