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Should the USA Annex Mexico?

 
 
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 12:30 pm
Being here on student visas means they weren't immigrants--and, of course, not all of them were here on expired visas. Additionally, you ignore the issue that they were Saudis and you've been spewing your racist hatred at Hispainic "illegals"--such as claiming that anyone you see on a bicycle in California with brown skin is an illegal immigrant.

What respect i ever had for you in the past has been completely squandered by this vile thread.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 12:32 pm
blacksmithn wrote:
I wouldn't attend any of the meetings you'd be at. I have an aversion to burning crosses and white hoods.


I don't hang out with Democratic leaders.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 12:33 pm
The vileness of this thread is reflected in the poll. Note how few people have voted in it, compared to the 1000+ views of the thread...
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 12:36 pm
Setanta wrote:
Being here on student visas means they weren't immigrants--and, of course, not all of them were here on expired visas. Additionally, you ignore the issue that they were Saudis and you've been spewing your racist hatred at Hispainic "illegals"--such as claiming that anyone you see on a bicycle in California with brown skin is an illegal immigrant.

What respect i ever had for you in the past has been completely squandered by this vile thread.


Well, that's too bad because my experience was shared by many people I knew, liberal, conservative, black, white, ...Mexican... who watched as illegal aliens overran the city, with the gangs working openly, usually on bikes. I'm not sure why you say "anyone you see on a bicycle" though. I never said that. You're trying to put words in my mouth the same way BS is.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 12:41 pm
cjhsa wrote:
I actually do mow my own lawn. When I lived in California, the simple act of doing so drew stares of disbelief from the illegal aliens patrolling the streets on their bicycles. (emphasis added)


I haven't the least doubt that you were able to find hateful racist bigots of all descriptions to comfort you with the delusion that your irrational hatred is justified.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 12:47 pm
I don't hate Mexicans. I just want all illegal aliens deported now.

I'm also guessing you haven't spent much time in areas where illegals have become a problem.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 12:52 pm
cjhsa wrote:
I don't hate Mexicans. I just want all illegal aliens deported now.

I'm also guessing you haven't spent much time in areas where illegals have become a problem.


Seattle draws many, I'm guessing, judging in part by the day laborers who stand in certain areas during the mornings, and the the central and eastern parts of state must have many because of all the farms and orchards. Only I don't hear any whining about it.

Clearly, you are hugely bothered by the issue.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 12:57 pm
I think it is an issue of national security. I stand firmly divided with our president on this one.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 12:58 pm
To use your own stereotype, what threat do Mexicans mowing lawns pose to the country?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 01:04 pm
Perhaps its the fact they do so illegally?
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 01:05 pm
i wouldn't mind seeing the illegals deported.

but only if it's all illegals. not just the sa's. the brits, irish, french, russian, armenian, m.e.s, whoever..and even my, canadian, former secretary. when she turned out to be here illegally.. sorry. gotta cut ya loose.

and that's a drag. she was an awsome secretary. and a cool person.

it's not a race or ethnic thing. illegal means... well.., illegal.

why would we want to have immigrants come here and by their first act, break the law of united states sovereignty ?

seems awfully disrespectful to me.

but, i have no problem whatsoever with people who arrive legally and through the system.

living in america isn't a right. it's a privilege.

same as any other sovereign nation.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 01:10 pm
I agree completely DTOM, and I expect others do as well.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 01:13 pm
cjhsa wrote:
I'm also guessing you haven't spent much time in areas where illegals have become a problem.


Such a guess would be as brainless and baseless as the rest of your racist screed . . .
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 01:16 pm
The war on illegal immigration reminds me of the war on drugs. Two great ways to expend enormous sums and effort to little effect.

The gov't, Bush included, seems to be looking at new ways to deal with the illegals, but some of us seem to want to throw money at the situation, despite the total failure of the current strategy.

And you call yourselves conservatives...
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 03:05 pm
Setanta wrote:

Such a guess would be as brainless and baseless as the rest of your racist screed . . .


Dude, watch Dave Chappelle's show on CC. Make sure young children are present.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 04:01 pm
D'artagnan wrote:
The war on illegal immigration reminds me of the war on drugs. Two great ways to expend enormous sums and effort to little effect.


sad but true. it's pretty damn hard to put the genie back in the bottle.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 04:32 pm
My name is not "Dude" . . . you can save that sh!t for witless buddies like that idiot Ned Tugent . . .
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 04:35 pm
DTOM wrote:

living in america isn't a right. it's a privilege.


Please explain what this means. What did you do to earn the priveledge of living here?

The fact is, many of us wouldn't be here if our ancestors didn't break the law to get here.

The first illegal immigrants were Chinese. This is because the first laws against immigrants included the Chinese Exclusion Act.

We brought them over to do much needed labor in the West, but women were excluded (out of fears of prostitution) and the men were supposed to work and go home.

Strangly enough, Chinese communities sprung up in most cities. The conservatives of the day squawked.

An important development was a couple of Supreme court decisions that ruled that the 14th amendment did apply to the children of illegal Chinese immigrants.And so, the second generation of illegal Chinese immigrants became a community of citizens.

If you are of Chinese descent there is a good chance that your "priveledge" to live here is due to the willingnes of your ancestors.

Of course it was not only the Chinese. Many Europeans avoided inspection by coming for agricultural work in Canada and then slipping accross the border. If you had means this was preferrable especially if you were had an undesirable trait like being Catholic (or worse). In 1925 as the INS estimated that there were at least 1.4 million illegal immigrants and said "it is quite possible that there is an even greater number of aliens in the country..."

So what of the question of "priviledge". If you are Chinese, Italian or Greek or Irish, there is a decent change that your privilege stems from the fact that people like me defended the rights of your great grandparents.

As you know, it is very easy for people of "priviledge" to usher harsh judgment on people who are less priviledged.

Millions of Americans today are descended from people who broke the law to get their (this doesn't count the thousands who broke the law to gain freedom from slavery, and were given citizenship as a result)

When people whose priviledge depends on their immigrant ancestors (both legal and illegal) then turn on the most recent immigrants...
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 05:24 pm
Setanta wrote:
My name is not "Dude" . . . you can save that sh!t for witless buddies like that idiot Ned Tugent . . .


No, you are definitely "Dude". I would always address Mr. Nugent appropriately seeing as how he is both a LEO and a iron carrying board member of the NRA.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Wed 22 Mar, 2006 05:52 pm
Why does it not surprise me that nobody has bothered to reply to the title of this thread?

I mean, comon, think of all the problems it would solve. Wink
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