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And You Like This Guy So Much

 
 
Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 07:56 am
when you get to where the rubber meets the road he's just another line towing party hack.....

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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 08:11 am
Maybe its just me,but I dont see the problem with what he said.

Lets try something,and you tell me if it makes sense.

MEMPHIS, Tenn. - Senator John Kerry told MSNBC in an exclusive interview late Friday that President Clinton is having difficulties right now and that Democrats should stand beside him.


If that sentence had appeared on MSNBC during the debacle called the Clinton impeachment,would you have agreed with it?

If you would have,why?

Fro what I read,McCain is being a politician,and supporting the head of his party.
I see no problem with a politician doing that.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 08:13 am
I think since Clinton hasn't ever publicly **** all over Keryy the way bush has McCain your comparison is invalid.
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Acquiunk
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 08:13 am
"He's having trouble right now. We Republicans all know that. That's when he needs us to stand by him. He doesn't need us when his numbers are 65. He needs us now," McCain said


In politics, there is always a quid pro quo for this sort of thing. Bush is down and he is unlikely to come back but this is a cheap way for McCain to bank a little political capital to use as leverage on a politically weakened President. Bush will pay for that remark.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 08:16 am
blueveinedthrobber wrote:
I think since Clinton hasn't ever publicly **** all over Keryy the way bush has McCain your comparison is invalid.


My comparison was missed by you.

During the idiocy of the Clinton impeachment,every democrat in congress stood up and supported Clinton.

Now,we have a republican senator supporting the head of his party.
Whats the problem?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 08:22 am
there's no problem with it... I like it when the opposition party puts the fact that they're ball-less on display.....
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 09:21 am
So,do you think that any time a politician supports the head of his party he is ball-less?
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revel
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 09:47 am
I don't know about all politicians, but McCain is nothing more than a political prostitute to gain the backing of all Bush's political backers.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 09:51 am
Well,
If he is planning to run for President,then he is doing the same thing that every other candidate does.

Get the backing of your parties major players,and that goes a long way to getting the nomination.

Every politician that wants to be President does that,even the democrats.
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Vietnamnurse
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 09:55 am
revel you took the words out of my mouth. After Bush ..it all over McCain and his family in 2000 and didn't invite him for the signing of the campaign finance bill, and several other slaps in the face, you see McCain hugging Bush during the 2004 campaign. I asked myself, "What is going on here?" Then it dawned on me like a load of you know what...he was getting the money lenders for his ride to the WH in '08! Kissing up to the devil. What a sorry excuse for a man.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 10:09 am
revel wrote:
I don't know about all politicians, but McCain is nothing more than a political prostitute to gain the backing of all Bush's political backers.


Bull!

As everyone who has been here long knows, I am on the left side of liberal. It is rare that I agree with mystery man.

But here, revel, you are way off base.

McCain has shown singular courage and consistant integrity on several issues.

- He is one of the most influential voices affecting our policy on the use of torture.
- He supports immigration policy that makes the radical assumption that immigrants are human being.
- He strongly opposed the Swift Boat attack ads on Kerry.

McCains supportive words for Bush are part of his character-- which is one of integrity

I disagree with McCain on many issues, but I deeply respect him and I am glad to have his voice in the public debate. I would certainly trust him in the White House.

I wish there were more Democrats with his consistant character.

These obscene partisan attacks from Democrats are bad for the party and the Country.

Do you think you can disagree with someone by offering a progressive alternative without comparing them to a prostitute?
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 10:18 am
Well, an opinion and an arsehole, everyone's got one....

I agree that McCain is very spineless in his embracing Dubya, especially after what Dubya has done to him. I want to like McCain; I thought for a long while he was my best hope of trying to support someone from 'across the aisle', but I've seen him do the political tiptoe (an admittedly very popular dance) too often to take him as seriously as I'd like to.

Right now, my list is very short of politicians I think have the courage of some- any- conviction.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 10:28 am
blueveinedthrobber wrote:
I think since Clinton hasn't ever publicly **** all over Keryy the way bush has McCain your comparison is invalid.

This would show that McCain's stance toward Bush is more principled, and not based on vendetta, or payback for past favoritism.

McCain may not like Bush--he may--but I don't think anyone would say he doesn't think Bush is making the right decisions. He has supported almost all of them. He's obviously long ago made peace with what was done to him during the primaries. And, I'm SURE McCain would voice disagreement, where he had it. His foreign policy opinions--if you know ANYTHING about him--are equal to Bush's.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 10:31 am
as someone on another thread pointed out, McCain is from the southwest (arizona) therefor is incompetent.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 10:53 am
...or that...

I still prefer Guiliani.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 11:00 am
Acquiunk wrote:
"He's having trouble right now. We Republicans all know that. That's when he needs us to stand by him. He doesn't need us when his numbers are 65. He needs us now," McCain said


In politics, there is always a quid pro quo for this sort of thing. Bush is down and he is unlikely to come back but this is a cheap way for McCain to bank a little political capital to use as leverage on a politically weakened President. Bush will pay for that remark.


Amen!
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 11:15 am
Lash wrote:
blueveinedthrobber wrote:
I think since Clinton hasn't ever publicly **** all over Keryy the way bush has McCain your comparison is invalid.

This would show that McCain's stance toward Bush is more principled, and not based on vendetta, or payback for past favoritism. quote]

righttt......
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 11:16 am
So,somebody that acts on their principles is a pussy?
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 11:21 am
mysteryman wrote:
So,somebody that acts on their principles is a pussy?


what principles is he acting on?
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Vietnamnurse
 
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Reply Sat 11 Mar, 2006 01:17 pm
Hey, dys! Are Southwestern Arizonians different from other Arizonians ? Laughing

eBrown: I have given McCain money for his work in the past because he is a maverick and tries to do some good, particulary with campaign finance with Feingold and the torture amendment (which, of course, Bush disregards). I know politics today is about securing the most money for the campaign...I just can't see kissing up to Bush for it.
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