Supremes to Colleges: Military Recruiter Bans Illegal

So snood, you agree that military recruiters are paramount to child molesters?

Well, Anon - you're kinda stomping around in personally delicate territory. What are you saying about those A2K'ers that are serving right now, or have served in the military in the past? That they were let down by their parents?

I'm surprised at my opinion--and it's based on feelings, rather than politics, or even common sense: I don't think recruiters should be able to approach children, without their parents present.

I'd more easily accept a draft and face that set of choices, than for someone to manipulate my child, with me unaware.

I know there are a lot of people, who make the choice to join, and that's great for them--but the majority of 18 year olds (opinion) aren't qualified to make this choice without parental guidance. It's a life and death choice. I gave some recruiters an earful for continuing to call my child after I explicitly told them to stop. He was 17 at the time. They are just like any other salesman. They will lie and distort and paint a rosy picture--they will meet your child without your knowledge--they seem to provide a viable option, sometimes at very vulnerable times in a young person'slife--and that time of life is the most turbulent. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

Some people will make that choice, and that's honorable--if they do it with their eyes open, and with an advocate--like a parent, making sure they know everything they need to know. Cruising for them on school campuses is wrong.

cjhsa wrote:

So snood, you agree that military recruiters are paramount to child molesters?

Nope, I'm just sneering at your opinion, actually.

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Lets face it, if you have brought your child up well, trained them in what is right and wrong, made sure they have been educated well ... why in the world would they need or want to join the military ??

Anon

I think the military today takes a certain type of person to join it, and I'm pretty sure that I would not want to be around a person that would be comfortable joining todays military. I'm afraid that's true!

Anon-Voter wrote:

Lets face it, if you have brought your child up well, trained them in what is right and wrong, made sure they have been educated well ... why in the world would they need or want to join the military ??

Anon

Perhaps you should ask Pat Tillman's parents.

Patrick Tillman Sr. believes he will never get the truth, and he says he is resigned to that now. But he wants everyone in the chain of command, from Tillman's direct supervisors to the one-star general who conducted the latest investigation, to face discipline for "dishonorable acts." He also said the soldiers who killed his son have not been adequately punished.

"Maybe lying's not a big deal anymore," he said. "Pat's dead, and this isn't going to bring him back. But these guys should have been held up to scrutiny, right up the chain of command, and no one has."

That their son was famous opened up the situation to problems, the Tillmans say, in part because of the devastating public relations loss his death represented for the military. Mary Tillman says the government used her son for weeks after his death, perpetuating an untrue story to capitalize on his altruism -- just as the Abu Ghraib prison scandal was erupting publicly. She said she was particularly offended when President Bush offered a taped memorial message to Tillman at a Cardinals football game shortly before the presidential election last fall. She again felt as though her son was being used, something he never would have wanted.

"Every day is sort of emotional," Mary Tillman said. "It just keeps slapping me in the face. To find that he was killed in this debacle -- everything that could have gone wrong did -- it's so much harder to take. We should not have been subjected to all of this. This lie was to cover their image. I think there's a lot more yet that we don't even know, or they wouldn't still be covering their tails.

Anon:

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I think the military today takes a certain type of person to join it, and I'm pretty sure that I would not want to be around a person that would be comfortable joining todays military. I'm afraid that's true!

What, exactly do you know about the "type of person" who joins the military? You are being shortsighted, and in any case, you don't need to slam the whole military to make a point about military recruiters on college campuses. I mean "I don't think I'd be comfortable around that kind of person"? Shee!

Anon, that piece you cite isn't related to the question you posed.

It helps to compare apples to apples.

cjhsa wrote:

Perhaps you should ask Pat Tillman's parents.

Here's what they think ...

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I might agree with you anon, if the enemy lived by the same laws and ethics that we hold dear. How do you fight an enemy that will load a doll full of C4 and put it in a daycare center without trampelling on their rights a bit? And why should I care about their rights?

Simple profiling would help a great deal. Everyone is so afraid of the "racist" label they won't even talk about it.

Anon-Voter wrote:

cjhsa wrote:

Perhaps you should ask Pat Tillman's parents.

Here's what they think ...

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Do you think Tillman's parents are failures?

I would absolutlely love to see Anon go to the Tillman's house and tell them they are parental failures.

I love a good gun show.

Ticomaya wrote:

Anon-Voter wrote:

cjhsa wrote:

Perhaps you should ask Pat Tillman's parents.

Here's what they think ...

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Do you think Tillman's parents are failures?

You don't? Of course you don't, ... I just had to edit what I typed, because it would get me banned, but it basically was what I thought of you personally as well!!

Anon

snood wrote:

Anon:

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I think the military today takes a certain type of person to join it, and I'm pretty sure that I would not want to be around a person that would be comfortable joining todays military. I'm afraid that's true!

What, exactly do you know about the "type of person" who joins the military? You are being shortsighted, and in any case, you don't need to slam the whole military to make a point about military recruiters on college campuses. I mean "I don't think I'd be comfortable around that kind of person"? Shee!

The person who signs up in todays military has to ...

Sign on to take ANY ORDER ... no matter how illegal or immoral
Sign on to support a war ... no matter how illegal or immoral
Sign on to support the torture of prisoners
Sign on to enforce illegal and immoral detainment of innocent people

and that's not even starters ... I haven't even begun!

We have a President who signs a law about torture, and then adds a signing statement that he won't obey it, which makes it all fine and dandy.

Sorry Snood, I guess it just makes me un-American, but I can't support any of those things. I don't care much for people that can.

Anon

Sign on to take ANY ORDER ... no matter how illegal or immoral

You might find it educational.

Sign on to support the torture of prisoners

Sign on to enforce illegal and immoral detainment of innocent people

First of all,I am glad anon is admitting to be a failure himself,after all,he claims to have served in the military also (although I personally doubt that).