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A first(?) thread on 2008: McCain,Giuliani & the Republicans

 
 
Advocate
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 08:16 pm
Has everyone forgiven McCain for being one of the Keating Five? He might have been the worst of them, accepting many gifts and trips from Chas. Keating, himself. The S&L fiasco cost the taxpayers half a trillion dollars. I haven't seen any remorse from McCain.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 09:12 pm
McCain doesn't understand remorse. He was tortured in Vietnam, and even with that experience voted for the torture bill offered by Bush.
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 07:21 am
Giuliani: He's "America's mayor" - perhaps; but far from New York's preferred mayor

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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 12:29 pm
Stop that evil grinning, nimh!!
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 12:32 pm
Lash wrote:
Stop that evil grinning, nimh!!


You must be upset that the crowd is turning against your boy Guiliani a little...

He's playing a dangerous game with that abortion stance of his

Cycloptichorn
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 12:33 pm
I'm proud of his stance--and proud a GOP standing for the big office had it.

Evolution, baby..... It's coming....LOL
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 12:35 pm
Lash wrote:
I'm proud of his stance--and proud a GOP standing for the big office had it.

Evolution, baby..... It's coming....LOL


I don't disagree - it's a stance that I support. Just don't think many other Republicans will do so when push comes to shove.

I still think it's McCain who will get the eventual nod...

Cycloptichorn
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 12:36 pm
No way!!!! He's lost his mind!!!
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 12:38 pm
Lash wrote:
No way!!!! He's lost his mind!!!


Lol, but he hasn't lost the votes, yet.

It certainly isn't going to be Romney, who isn't polling well.

I've heard rumors of a Hagel-Bloomberg ticket. If that happens, you might as well say hello to a Democratic president, b/c it would split your party right down the middle.

Cycloptichorn
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 12:40 pm
Hagel at the top--- (mulls GOP voters....)

Nah.

But, things are muddy on our side.

Only saving grace....? Same on yours.....LOL
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 12:41 pm
McCain lost his mind, and he still has GOPers supporting him. What does that say about the GOPers and others? LOL
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 12:42 pm
Lash wrote:
Hagel at the top--- (mulls GOP voters....)

Nah.

But, things are muddy on our side.

Only saving grace....? Same on yours.....LOL


True, though any of the big three would be acceptable to the majority of Dems. So I think that you're going to see a bitterly fought primary followed by a united Dem base who have been waiting for years for this.

I don't think that 'any of the big three' on the Republican side are acceptable to the base...

Ought to be interesting, no doubt. I bet Nimh is running around with a half-woody almost every day now.

Cycloptichorn
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 01:02 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Lash wrote:
Hagel at the top--- (mulls GOP voters....)

Nah.

But, things are muddy on our side.

Only saving grace....? Same on yours.....LOL


True, though any of the big three would be acceptable to the majority of Dems. So I think that you're going to see a bitterly fought primary followed by a united Dem base who have been waiting for years for this.

I don't think that 'any of the big three' on the Republican side are acceptable to the base...

Ought to be interesting, no doubt. I bet Nimh is running around with a half-woody almost every day now.

Cycloptichorn

What's going to be even more interesting is how much the big three change their positions yet again after the Republican primaries.

It's sick that these Republicans are using the Iraq war to rally whatever is left of the base in order to win the primary. What they've been saying lately is beyond delusional.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 01:08 pm
It's not only the Iraq war; they are still trying to use abortion to gain votes.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 01:41 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
It's not only the Iraq war; they are still trying to use abortion to gain votes.

Perhaps, but not as aggressively as they have in the past. The American people, including many on the Christian right, are waking up to the fact that they've been used by the GOP. David Kuo, who was part of Bush's faith-based initiatives, has been making the rounds, voicing his disillusionment with the Bush administration and questioning their sincerity. Now we have the current Republican front-runner clarifying his position for a woman's right to choose.

I caught an episode of Larry King last night, and David Kuo was on with a few other religious leaders plus David Gergen, and there is a general agreement that religion in this election may not play as big of a role as it has in years past, especially for the GOP. Their base is shrinking because many fundamentalist Christians have woken up from their Bush nightmare. And we've seen plenty of images of fundamentalist Christians making complete fools out of themselves. The Westborough Baptist Church, whose congregation (mostly family) protested the funerals of soldiers who got killed in Iraq, have given Christians a bad name. James Dobson, Pat Robertson, and the now late Jerry Falwell, may be seeing their profit margins shrink, no doubt due to their politicizing of religion for the sake of the GOP.

The Republican party today is nothing like it was in it's heyday when the neocons were riding a high tidal wave of unbridled political power, and the unraveling continues unabated.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 02:26 pm
In the South Carolina debate tonight, the award for Totally Out of Left Field question will be about the Confederate flag flying outside the state capitol. Mr McCain has said he objects to that. He will have to do a bit of waffling.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 02:36 pm
realjohnboy wrote:
In the South Carolina debate tonight, the award for Totally Out of Left Field question will be about the Confederate flag flying outside the state capitol. Mr McCain has said he objects to that. He will have to do a bit of waffling.

Wasn't it the South Carolina primaries back in 2000 when the Bush campaign accused McCain of adopting a black baby?

These Republicans are a sick lott. And they still have to pander to their most conservative and bigotted elements of their party in regards to the GOP primary.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 02:43 pm
(By the way, Dooiestix, hi to you. I don't believe we have met, even though you joined A2K slightly ahead of me almost five years ago).
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 02:49 pm
I wonder if they're also going to push to restrict gay marriage.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 02:53 pm
It will be interesting to see how they pay homage to the late Mr Falwell.
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