Did the U.S. goverment really set up 9/11

Laugh it up Bozo.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1868480,00.html

Not sure what that article proves, except that there will be a talk by folks who believe a gov't conspiracy planned 9/11.

How many are old enough to recall the conspiracy theories that swirled around after JFK was shot? Succeeding with a 9/11 conspiracy would make plotting JFK's death seem like child's play. What evidence do we have that the current administration is capable of accomplishing such a feat?

Very good question Dartagnan, Better that most I've seen on the subject. I'm pressed for time right now, but if you check back I will post the top five biggest questions/ facts surrounding 9/11 and the capabilities of such a conspiracy actually happening.

As you could tell I highly believe that 9/11 was set up. If you watch any 9/11 conspirecy video it WILL convince you as it is very clear evidence that it was set up.

Exactly. And here's the worst part: What has everyone's panties in such a knot, the [ahem] Iraq war, is really being filmed in the same location they filmed the '69 lunar landing. All new stage props of course.

Even better, Bush Jr. doesn't really exist; it's one of the Quaid brothers running around in makeup the last 6 years. The goverment has been playing us just like on The Truman Show movie.

Why not employ the foremost underlying impression in this thread and realize that it's so much better if we all just pretend.

More evidence that can support the fact that the wtc buildings were brought down by explosives and not fire is that A building has NEVER collapsed from fire damage before.

On July 28 1945, a B-52 bomber crashed into the side of the empire state building, but it hasn't collapsed yet. On May 4 1998, a 62 story building in L.A. burned for just about 3 hours and spread over 4 floors, but as you can guess, it did not collapse to the ground. There were also many other intense building fires all over the world, however the the World Trade Center buildings are the first skyscrapers to collapse due to a fires that burned for such a small amount of time.

Don't you guys think that this is a bit strange that all 3 of the World Trade Center buildings collapsed with such ease. Just more evidence proving the conspiracy theory true.

No, it was a a B-25 Mitchell bomber that hit the Empire State Building, not a B-52 Stratofortress.

B-25 Mitchell:

• Length: 52 ft 11 in
  
• Wingspan: 67 ft 6 in
  
• Height: 17 ft 7 in
  
• Wing area: 610 ft²
  
• Empty weight: 21,120 lb
  
• Loaded weight: 33,510 lb

B-52 Stratofortress:

• Length: 159 ft 4 in
  
• Wingspan: 185 ft 0 in
  
• Height: 40 ft 8 in
  
• Wing area: 4,000 ft²
  
• Empty weight: 185,000 lb
  
• Loaded weight: 265,000 lb

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The Boeing 767, the type of planes that struck the World Trade Center, are fairly similar in size to the B-52 ... not the B-25:

• Length: 159
  
• Wingspan: 156
  
• Height: 52
  
• Takeoff Weight: 312,000 lb

A tale of 2 buildings http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEPjOi2dQSM

Oops, sorry for that mistake. And thank you Ticomaya for correcting me. But the fact is that if other buildings held up to intense fire for a long period of time, why couldn't the WTC hold up to fire for about 20 minutes?

Bond 77000
If you have a strip of metal an inch in with and .250 inch in thickness clamp it in a vice and take a propane torch and heat it till it turns red. Before you heat it try to bend the metal with your hands. After you heat it try to bend it again. You will find that it loses most of its strength. The heat was such in the towers that it turned the beams red hot. The temp was over 2000 degrees more than hot enough too destroy the integrity of the steel beams.

rabel, you got a link to back up your stats? The fire did not generate the heat you suggest. In history only 3 high rise buildings have ever collapsed from fire. All at WTC. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=964034652002408586 "It requires temperatures of at least 5,000 fahrenheit to melt steel. Diesel jet fuel does not reach these temperatures and the fires in the buildings were short lived. Firefighter tape recordings prove that only small pockets"

Why did the World Trade Center Collapse? Science, Engineering, and Speculation.

By Thomas W. Eagar, Professor of Materials Engineering and Engineering Systems at MIT.

(Good Try)

Evidence that the U.S. Government Planned & Executed 9/11

The bigger question is, will you have courage to watch the youtube video ?

Waiting......

It's not a question of "courage" .... it's a matter of desire.






(Edited to add silly laughing smilies.)

Rabel
That would be right and that does happen. However this was not the case for the WTC. When the planes smashed into the sides of the towers, the planes exploded losing most of the fuel right away. There was alot of black smoke coming out of the towers. Black smoke means that the fire is not burning. The fires were not burning at a very high temperature so therefor they could not have possibly melted the steal. The building was designed for a fully loaded boeing 707 crash into the sides of the towers. The 767s that crashed into the towers were not fully loaded and fueled, they burned for not a long time but the towers still collapsed perfectly like a planned demolition!

What is the basis for your belief that the 767s that crashed into the towers were not fully loaded or fueled?

Here's another link you can ignore:
World Trade Center - Some Engineering Aspects

Well. The planes that crashed into the towers were on intercontenental flights, which means flights inside the continent. The flights are not fully fueled to keep weight down. If the planes are flying inside the country why do they need a full tank of fuel? It is indisputable.

heres a quote from the website that Ticomaya provided.

"Implosion firstly requires a lot of explosives placed in strategic areas all around the building. When and how was this explosive placed in the building without anyone knowing about it. Second, implosion required more than just explosives. Demolition experts spend weeks inside a derelict building planning an event."
This is exactly what happened on the weeks prior to Sept 11. WTC employees said that there were many odd drills and evacuations prior to the collapse. Employees also reported engineers coming in and out of the buildings. Also security guards were forced to leave there posts on some days prior to the collapse or sometimes told to turn off their security monitors!

Another quote
"The structural integrity of the World Trade Center depends on the closely spaced columns around the perimeter. Lightweight steel trusses span between the central elevator core and the perimeter columns on each floor. These trusses support the concrete slab of each floor and tie the perimeter columns to the core, preventing the columns from buckling outwards."
There is one problem with this statement from the website. What about the 4 main support colums in the center of the towers, the strongest part of the building.

Did you read the other link I posted?