Bush supporters' aftermath thread II

Pachelbul wrote:

I find it interesting that Bush & his brothers commit such crimes and it goes unnoticed. Marvin Bush, Georgie's brother, was in charge of security at the WTC on 9/11. Of course, it's all just a coincidence that 9/11 'happened' when a Bush was in charge of security......

And I find it interesting tha Marvin Bush was NOT in charge of security at the WTC on 9/11.

Anyone who reads about this can discover:

George Bush's obscure youngest brother Marvin was on the board of directors of a company called Securacom (now changed to Stratesec) that was responsible for providing "electronic security" to the World Trade Center right up to 9/11/2001.

Now, perhaps Pacelbul can send this "unknown" piece of information to Michael Moore or Cindy Sheehan or Al Franken or better yet, Ted Kennedy, to let them know that--YES--- GEORGE BUSH'S BROTHER WAS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF A COMPANY CALLED SECUARCOM THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING ELECTRONIC SECURITY TO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER>


You see, this is the way the conspiracy worked--With the "crippling" of the electronic security, the WTC was unable to detect that AIRLINERS WERE INDEED FLYING TOWARDS THEM TO DESTROY THOSE BUILDINGS--(The electronic security was the best in the world, able to predict exactly where and when the planes were going to strike and "Marvin Moore" conspiring with his brother, went in to pull all of the security out of the building just fifteen minutes before the planes were to crash into it.

For this feat, Marvin got an Ambassadorship to Syria!!!

You're right, BR. How silly of me to even question the veracity of such an illustrious family. I am perfectly chastened.

Dubya is the first president in history to never, never tell a lie. Kind of like George Washington, huh?

His grandfather was not involved with Avril Harriman and the Nazi's. Nope. Not even a little bit. All of that is just made up by those crazy liberals.

His brothers are paragons of society.

Brother Neil, for example, also has an interesting history:

Silverado S&L
Bush was on the board of directors of Silverado Savings and Loan during the 1980s. His father was Vice President of the United States at the time, so Bush's role was a focal point of publicity. The savings and loan crisis cost the taxpayers billions of dollars; Silverado's was one of the failures, with a taxpayer cost of about $1 billion. en. wikipedia.org
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But you Americans didn't mind helping him pay off that 1 billion, did you? I mean, Neil's such a nice guy, even though those nasty stories about him and Asian, ummm, ladies of the night are going around......

But of course, it's all a lie. And Marvin's connection with a security company who just HAPPENED to have a contract with WTC up until the Towers went down is purely coincidence. No conspiracy theory at all.

That the Bush's seem to be Directors/CEO's, whatever, for companies involved with scandal is totally coincidence!

Then, there is Jeb. No scandals there whatsoever. Lily white. Except for those 'felon voters' who were denied a vote in Florida but later it was found that these people were, in fact, not felons.....most were African Americans.
Yes, I know, Jeb didn't tamper with any votes for his president-to-be brother. Even if Jeb is the Governor of Florida.

Oh - and the Nigerian deal that Jeb was involved in that cost tax payers millions...something to do with water pumps.....of course, they are just a bunch of lefties trying to throw mud on a perfectly decent family. www.answers.com is probably even run by those nasty, liberal minded people. So are the current stories published about his daughter who tried to get an illegal prescription.....

washingtonpost.com (we know they can't be trusted to tell the truth)
only Fox TV tells the truth, so help me God....
www.cnn.com for articles on Neil Bush
en.wikipedia.org-articles on any of the Bush's and their offspring who seem to like alcohol and drugs, but that is just not true, is it?

Jeb is also a Catholic married to a Mexican, from Mexico.

Wonder how ole bro Georgie will deal with this and the Mexican immigration issue

Who knew.......

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Pachelbul wrote:

I find it interesting that Bush & his brothers commit such crimes and it goes unnoticed. Marvin Bush, Georgie's brother, was in charge of security at the WTC on 9/11. Of course, it's all just a coincidence that 9/11 'happened' when a Bush was in charge of security......

And I find it interesting that Marvin Bush was NOT in charge of security at the WTC on 9/11.

Anyone who reads about this can discover:

George Bush's obscure youngest brother Marvin was on the board of directors of a company called Securacom (now changed to Stratesec) that was responsible for providing "electronic security" to the World Trade Center right up to 9/11/2001.

Now, perhaps Pacelbul can send this "unknown" piece of information to Michael Moore or Cindy Sheehan or Al Franken or better yet, Ted Kennedy, to let them know that--YES--- GEORGE BUSH'S BROTHER WAS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF A COMPANY CALLED SECUARCOM THAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROVIDING ELECTRONIC SECURITY TO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER>


You see, this is the way the conspiracy worked--With the "crippling" of the electronic security, the WTC was unable to detect that AIRLINERS WERE INDEED FLYING TOWARDS THEM TO DESTROY THOSE BUILDINGS--(The electronic security was the best in the world, able to predict exactly where and when the planes were going to strike and "Marvin Moore" conspiring with his brother, went in to pull all of the security out of the building just fifteen minutes before the planes were to crash into it.

For this feat, Marvin got an Ambassadorship to Syria!

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I have recently learned that Marvin Bush was awarded a Kibuttz from Israel for his services. That proves the conspiracy!


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But here is something else that Pachelbul does not know.


Families
THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT

Final Report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
EXECUTIVE SUMMARY

We present the narrative of this report and the recommendations that flow from it to the President of the United States, the United States Congress, and the American people for their consideration. Ten Commissioners-five Republicans and five Democrats chosen by elected leaders from our nation's capital at a time of great partisan division-have come together to present this report without dissent.

We have come together with a unity of purpose because our nation demands it. September 11, 2001, was a day of unprecedented shock and suffering in the history of the United States. The nation was unprepared.


A NATION TRANSFORMED
At 8:46 on the morning of September 11, 2001, the United States became a nation transformed.

An airliner traveling at hundreds of miles per hour and carrying some 10,000 gallons of jet fuel plowed into the North Tower of the World Trade Center in Lower Manhattan. At 9:03, a second airliner hit the South Tower. Fire and smoke billowed upward. Steel, glass, ash, and bodies fell below. The Twin Towers, where up to 50,000 people worked each day, both collapsed less than 90 minutes later.

At 9:37 that same morning, a third airliner slammed into the western face of the Pentagon. At 10:03, a fourth airliner crashed in a field in southern Pennsylvania. It had been aimed at the United States Capitol or the White House, and was forced down by heroic passengers armed with the knowledge that America was under attack.

More than 2,600 people died at the World Trade Center; 125 died at the Pentagon; 256 died on the four planes. The death toll surpassed that at Pearl Harbor in December 1941.

This immeasurable pain was inflicted by 19 young Arabs acting at the behest of Islamist extremists headquartered in distant Afghanistan. Some had been in the United States for more than a year, mixing with the rest of the population. Though four had training as pilots, most were not well-educated. Most spoke English poorly, some hardly at all. In groups of four or five, carrying with them only small knives, box cutters, and cans of Mace or pepper spray, they had hijacked the four planes and turned them into deadly guided missiles.

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Now, Pachelbul or other people wearing tinfoil hats may say that these investigators were, in some way, bribed or coerced.

But Pachelbul does not know that two of the 10 key investigators were

RICHARD BEN-VENISTE AND JAMIE GORLICK>


If Pachelbul knows who those two are, he would know that NOONE could compromise them!!!

And Bill Clinton's brother is a cokehead and a drunk .... and we all know what that says about Bill, don't we?



<gasp> The scandal ....!

What a coincidence; so was our President.

Should we even bother discussing Billy Carter?

A brief aside, on the theory that no true liberal will be a Bush supporter, the Bush supporters can take encouragement from this

From today's Opinion Journal:

SOURCE

The only galling thing about this is that I now have to acknowledge a benefit from all those abortions the liberals have been pushing all these years.

A much better claim in terms of rationality ... the sins of one's father/brother/distant cousin is hardly attributable to that person .... this is not meant to imply that you can support your claim, of course.

We should remember that Billy Carter invented trickle down.

Was he the reason they made depends undergarments?

Wishful thinking but then there's reality.

SOURCE

Looks like all those Republican kids think George Bush is out of touch with their beliefs. Nice to see all them Republicans making new Democrats.

Fortunately, many children choose their own political affiliation once they become of age; just ask my Republican parents about that one.

Cycloptichorn

Naaaaaah, this thread is dedicated to the sordid aftermath of the bushite installation..

Marvin Bush got an award from the Israelis!! Well, my oh my, I can't EVEN guess why they would award him.....let me think...... for allowing security to lapse at the WTC on 9/11, so that the Arabs could be blamed for what the Zionists did that day? Nawwwww..........of course not.

I think the Bush family should be awared the highest honour -
The Darwin Awards, don't you think so, BernR?

You apparently cant read,or you are purposefully misrepresenting the truth.
The company he ran was in charge of ELECTRONIC security.

There is no way that any electronic security,or physical security for that matter,in the WTC could have stopped those airplanes.

You know that,yet you are purposly trying to blame him.

Why is that?

Because he is a conspiracy guy, mysteryman. A disconnection from reality renders the ability to reason inactive to non-existent.

Why are you purposely trying to make him look innocent?

I'm not into conspiracies, but apparently you are if you listen to American network TV. They put quite the spin on it don't they?

Funny that the FACT that Marvin Bush was connected in ANY way to the WTC up until the day they came down, didn't come out, HUH?

Funny that the Israelis caught dancing and filming the Towers falling wasn't front page news, HUH?

Funny that the PM of Israel, on the day the Towers came down-when asked his opinion, said "It's very good...... I mean it's bad. But it will generate sympathy for Israel."

It did. And caused widespread anti-Arabic sentiment.

Go connect the dots

And Pacelbel believes that Prescott Bush, George W. Bush's grandfather, by virtue of the fact that he worked for Harriman who had an employee named Fritz Thyssen who contributed to Hitler in the 30's and then stopped contributing in 1939m was a Nazi or at the very least, A Nazi sympathizer. This, of course, makes George W. Bush a Nazi!

Pachelbol now wears a tinfoil hat!!!!!!

yeah, how 'bout that! And what kind of hat do you wear? A pointy dunce hat, of course. Your blather has not one iota of a quote from any source to prove otherwise. Why don't you do some research, sparrowfart/BernR, before you talk? I have. There are 251,000 hits on the internet for Prescott Bush and Nazis connection. The documents were......shhhhhh......secret.....at first. They are now public which is why they are available at the Natl'l Archives and Lib. of Congress.

QUOTE guardian.co.uk/usa/story

How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president

Ben Aris in Berlin and Duncan Campbell in Washington
Saturday September 25, 2004
The Guardian


George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a director and shareholder of companies that profited from their involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.
The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.
His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than 60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and to a hum of pre-election controversy.

The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes prosecutor to argue that the late senator's action should have been grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
The debate over Prescott Bush's behaviour has been bubbling under the surface for some time. There has been a steady internet chatter about the "Bush/Nazi" connection, much of it inaccurate and unfair. But the new documents, many of which were only declassified last year, show that even after America had entered the war and when there was already significant information about the Nazis' plans and policies, he worked for and profited from companies closely involved with the very German businesses that financed Hitler's rise to power. It has also been suggested that the money he made from these dealings helped to establish the Bush family fortune and set up its political dynasty.

Remarkably, little of Bush's dealings with Germany has received public scrutiny, partly because of the secret status of the documentation involving him. But now the multibillion dollar legal action for damages by two Holocaust survivors against the Bush family, and the imminent publication of three books on the subject are threatening to make Prescott Bush's business history an uncomfortable issue for his grandson, George W, as he seeks re-election.

(Pachelbel's statement: They sure stifled anything about that during the election, didn't they? A bit of political clout helps eh?) Gutless Democrats?

While there is no suggestion that Prescott Bush was sympathetic to the Nazi cause, the documents reveal that the firm he worked for, Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s before falling out with him at the end of the decade. The Guardian has seen evidence that shows Bush was the director of the New York-based Union Banking Corporation (UBC) that represented Thyssen's US interests and he continued to work for the bank after America entered the war.

Tantalising


Bush was also on the board of at least one of the companies that formed part of a multinational network of front companies to allow Thyssen to move assets around the world.

Thyssen owned the largest steel and coal company in Germany and grew rich from Hitler's efforts to re-arm between the two world wars. One of the pillars in Thyssen's international corporate web, UBC, worked exclusively for, and was owned by, a Thyssen-controlled bank in the Netherlands. More tantalising are Bush's links to the Consolidated Silesian Steel Company (CSSC), based in mineral rich Silesia on the German-Polish border. During the war, the company made use of Nazi slave labour from the concentration camps, including Auschwitz. The ownership of CSSC changed hands several times in the 1930s, but documents from the US National Archive declassified last year link Bush to CSSC, although it is not clear if he and UBC were still involved in the company when Thyssen's American assets were seized in 1942.

Three sets of archives spell out Prescott Bush's involvement. All three are readily available, thanks to the efficient US archive system and a helpful and dedicated staff at both the Library of Congress in Washington and the National Archives at the University of Maryland.
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now, if you fools who chortle that Bush is innocent would post something concrete, other than your silly opinions, that states that Bush was NEVER involved I might believe you. Can you find at least 100,000 hits on the computer to back up your statements? I challenge you to do so.

Here are more sites with Bush/Nazi connection:

www.nhgazette.com, www.geocities.com, www.tarpley.net, lpdallas.org/feature/draheim

Obviously I am not going to post all 250,000 sites for you. What do you think I am - a reference library?

A2K is supposed to be about learning and knowledge. Not covering up facts. You have a long, long way to go.

You can't be a little bit pregnant. And you can't be involved a little bit with the Nazis - you either are, or you aren't. You're either with us or against us, eh? If you are naive enough to think Prescott Bush could be director and/or on the boards for these people while he had absolutely NO knowledge of what was going on then I expect you'll believe anything your government and press (same thing in Americ) tells you. Way to go, suckers....

Pachelbel, if you run out of sites to post, you can tackle the subject of aliens that landed at Roswell, New Mexico. If you need help, call Art Bell and George Norrie after midnight.