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Bush supporters' aftermath thread II

 
 
Anon-Voter
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:15 am
JustWonders wrote:
OE - he does that from time to time - just to confuse the Democrats and see if they're paying attention Smile

There will be a quiz at the end of his term LOL.

<Take notes>


What he says, and what he does are two different things. Especially when it comes to reasons for going to war, and telling us how he was going to hunt down Osama and kill him!!

Anon
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:28 am
Is that like claiming to support the troops,then laughing when they get killed?
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old europe
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:29 am
mysteryman wrote:
Is that like claiming to support the troops,then laughing when they get killed?


Has Bush done that?

Who would have thought....
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:39 am
old europe wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
I am wondering though if this policy shift on environmental stuff is not reinforcing a perception that the President is not the conservative we wanted him to be. I can't see that he got any bounce in the polls and in fact may have taken a minor hit. and not at least threatening a veto of some of the pork laden spending that has been coming out of Congress lately. Then again he did ask for a line item veto so that was encouraging.


He is not the conservative you wanted him to be? That's a rather surprising confession, Foxy.

However, re "He didn't help himself either by not speaking more forcefully on border control", I was indeed quite astonished when I heard him saying

Quote:
We hear claims that immigrants are somehow bad for the economy -- even though this economy could not function without them.


Yes, I'm taking notes.


Not so surprising from Foxy, OE. She's on record since way back on her "issues" with Dubya. I don't know of anyone, actually, who gives any politician their full support (100%).
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:39 am
old europe wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Is that like claiming to support the troops,then laughing when they get killed?


Has Bush done that?

Who would have thought....


This new policy shift looks as if he may have rethought some things ...
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Anon-Voter
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:40 am
old europe wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Is that like claiming to support the troops,then laughing when they get killed?


Has Bush done that?

Who would have thought....


He's referring to me. Trying to pick a fight and get another thread locked like he did the Bush Aftermath Thread! I've been ignoring him for the good of the forum!!

Anon
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old europe
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:44 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
old europe wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Is that like claiming to support the troops,then laughing when they get killed?


Has Bush done that?

Who would have thought....


This new policy shift looks as if he may have rethought some things ...


He's just not the conservative we all thought he would be!

















Disclaimer: We're just playing, you know....
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:44 am
I just read that the House Intel Committee is reopening the investigation on the issue of Iraq's WMDs.



<Psssst to the committee - they're sitting in Syria>
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:44 am
Anon-Voter wrote:
old europe wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Is that like claiming to support the troops,then laughing when they get killed?


Has Bush done that?

Who would have thought....


He's referring to me. Trying to pick a fight and get another thread locked like he did the Bush Aftermath Thread! I've been ignoring him for the good of the forum!!

Anon


Anon,
All I want to know is why you get so offended when your own words are quoted.
Do you stand by what you said?
Do you still believe what you said?

Those are simple questions to answer.
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old europe
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:49 am
JustWonders wrote:
they're sitting in Syria


I'll bet €1 against that.

Very Happy
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:50 am
You're on, OE Smile
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:53 am
old europe wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
I am wondering though if this policy shift on environmental stuff is not reinforcing a perception that the President is not the conservative we wanted him to be. I can't see that he got any bounce in the polls and in fact may have taken a minor hit. and not at least threatening a veto of some of the pork laden spending that has been coming out of Congress lately. Then again he did ask for a line item veto so that was encouraging.


He is not the conservative you wanted him to be? That's a rather surprising confession, Foxy.

It's nothing I haven't said before. Many true conservatives are disappointed with the president on both his immigration policies and his failure to lead more on controlling spending, and I have said both on more than one occasion. The difference between saying this and what the Bush-haters say is that I can see good with the bad. His enemies apparently are incapable of doing that or just don't want to.

However, re "He didn't help himself either by not speaking more forcefully on border control", I was indeed quite astonished when I heard him saying

Quote:
We hear claims that immigrants are somehow bad for the economy -- even though this economy could not function without them.


The problem here is not drawing a distinction between immigration and illegal immigration. I know no conservative anywhere who is opposed to orderly, regulated immigration. I know no conservative anywhere who is supportive of illegal immigration. The President drew no distinction in his speech and thus left an impression that is probably different that his complete thoughts on this subject. Nobody wants immigration stopped. We do want the thousands upon thousands of illegals, both good and bad people, from streaming across our borders.
Yes, I'm taking notes.


And again I am hoping you're one of the intellectionally honest who consider the whole of the issue instead of just the incidental remark. Generally, however, I have perceived you to be one who makes judgments on the whole instead of opportunistic sound bites.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:54 am
Anon and Mysteryman: I have to admit I'm getting annoyed with your bickering, which already got the other thread locked for good. Could the two of you take it to e-mail, please? I would appreciate it.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:55 am
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
(Actually it's backpedal.)


(Actually I really meant paddling back and not backpedal.)


But Walter, if you're going to be insulting, if that was your intent, at least explain what you mean by backpaddle or backpedal. Again, what issue do you have with what I said?
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old europe
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:57 am
Foxy,

the point is just that Bush doesn't really give so many speeches. I am, of course, considering the whole context of his speech. But I cannot consider a non-existent context.

We'll have to see whether or not he's going to expand on some points. Would be fair enough to reevaluate his speech then. On the other hand, I specifically want the president to explain what he meant, not somebody else give an interpretation.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:58 am
On the WMDs, I'm pretty sure the issue is being reopened basedon information in a new book by one of Saddam's head guys. This book fully explains that massive amounts of WMDs were trucked and flown over to Syria during those weeks Bush was trying to convince the UN to act.

Of course the MSM is trying very hard to ignore this as it is going to make a whole lot of their favorites look very silly all these years they have condemned Bush for lying about the WMDs.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 10:59 am
Foxfyre wrote:


But Walter, if you're going to be insulting, if that was your intent, at least explain what you mean by backpaddle or backpedal. Again, what issue do you have with what I said?


I'd thought, I had clearly marked my response with an emoticon " :wink: ".


Sorry, if you feel insulted.
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old europe
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 11:00 am
JustWonders wrote:
You're on, OE Smile


JW, are we going to agree on an exchange rate now, or will that just be part of the game in order to increase the suspense?

Very Happy
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old europe
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 11:01 am
Foxfyre wrote:
On the WMDs, I'm pretty sure the issue is being reopened basedon information in a new book by one of Saddam's head guys. This book fully explains that massive amounts of WMDs were trucked and flown over to Syria during those weeks Bush was trying to convince the UN to act.

Of course the MSM is trying very hard to ignore this as it is going to make a whole lot of their favorites look very silly all these years they have condemned Bush for lying about the WMDs.


Wanna join the bet?
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sat 4 Feb, 2006 11:02 am
old europe wrote:
JustWonders wrote:
You're on, OE Smile


JW, are we going to agree on an exchange rate now, or will that just be part of the game in order to increase the suspense?

Very Happy


Your choice Smile
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