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THE US, THE UN AND IRAQ, TENTH THREAD.

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 28 Apr, 2006 02:53 pm
Some people continue to claim that this war in Iraq is worth it. Are you one of those?

US war costs 'could hit $811bn'
The cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan has soared and may now reach $811bn (£445bn), says a report by the Congressional Research Service.
It estimates that Congress has appropriated $368bn for the global war on terror, including both conflicts.

It says that if the current spending bill is approved, US war costs will reach $439bn, and it estimates that an extra $371bn may be needed by 2016.

On that basis, the two wars would cost more than the $579bn spent in Vietnam.

The future costing assumes that US troop levels will drop from the 258,000 currently engaged in all operations to 74,000 by 2010.

Budget gap

The rising cost of the war is leading to growing concerns in Congress, where attempts to control the budget deficit have been hindered by the "supplementary" requests received each year for war spending.

The CRS estimates that the US Department of Defense's annual war funding has risen from $73bn in 2004 to $120bn in 2006, with an increase of 17% this year alone.


There have also been concerns that extra non-related appropriations are often tucked inside the war funding bill.

On Thursday Senators deleted funding for a $15m seafood promotion programme that had been tucked away in the current bill.

Earlier, Senators diverted $1.9bn in war funds to pay for increased immigration controls at US borders.

Troop levels

The cost of the war in Iraq has been increasing since US troops have become bogged down in the conflict.

The CRS says the real cost of the conflict in Iraq has risen to $8bn monthly, nearly double the cost in 2003.

It points out that it is difficult to estimate the exact cost of individual operations, such as the Iraq conflict, because the Defense Department does not break down the figures for individual operations.

And it says that the Defense Department has also minimised the cost of the war by not including other costs, including intelligence and the training of Iraqi and Afghan security forces, in its estimates.

Overall, 71% of the total war costs have been spent in Iraq, 21% in Afghanistan, and 7% on increased protection for US forces worldwide.

The main reason for the rapidly escalating costs is increased spending on ammunition, equipment and operational materials such as petrol.

Over $60bn has been spent on procurement, including improved armour, replacement of damaged vehicles, and the building of a more extensive infrastructure to support the troops on the ground.

The CRS says that "if the global war is likely to become the long war as some administration spokesman have suggested, Congress may want to consider requiring that the Department of Defense request a full year's war funds concurrently with its regular budget".

The estimates do not include the costs of reconstruction, which the US originally estimated at $56bn.

A recent report from the General Accounting Office suggested these costs would be much higher, but also said much of the money disbursed so far had been spent on security, not rebuilding.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/business/4955418.stm

Published: 2006/04/28 17:36:24 GMT
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 28 Apr, 2006 03:00 pm
According to the media, a U.S. State Department report said today that Sunni and Shiite extremist groups are working inside Iraq to create a terrorist haven, where foreign fighters can operate.

A tardiness of reply, I think.

Report: Extremists push for terror haven in Iraq
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Fri 28 Apr, 2006 03:08 pm
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Brought to you by the American Committees on Foreign Relations ACFR NewsGroup No. 703, Friday, April 28, 2006.
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Islam's Imperial Dreams
Commentary, April 2006

Efraim Karsh

When satirical depictions of the prophet Muhammad in a Danish newspaper sparked a worldwide wave of Muslim violence early this year, observers naturally focused on the wanton destruction of Western embassies, businesses, and other institutions. Less attention was paid to the words that often accompanied the riots--words with ominous historical echoes. "Hurry up and apologize to our nation, because if you do not, you will regret it" declared Khaled Mash'al, the leader of Hamas, fresh from the Islamist group's sweeping victory in the Palestinian elections:

This is because our nation is progressing and is victorious. . . . By Allah, you will be defeated. . . . Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing. Apologize today, before remorse will do you no good.

Among Islamic radicals, such gloating about the prowess and imminent triumph of their "nation" is as commonplace as recitals of the long and bitter catalog of grievances related to the loss of historical Muslim dominion. Osama bin Laden has repeatedly alluded to the collapse of Ottoman power at the end of World War I and, with it, the abolition of the Ottoman caliphate. "What America is tasting now" he declared in the immediate wake of 9/11, "is only a copy of what we have tasted. Our Islamic nation has been tasting the same for more than 80 years, of humiliation and disgrace, its sons killed and their blood spilled, its sanctities desecrated." Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's top deputy, has pointed still farther into the past, lamenting "the tragedy of al-Andalus"; that is, the end of Islamic rule in Spain in 1492.

These historical claims are in turn frequently dismissed by Westerners as delusional, a species of mere self-aggrandizement or propaganda. But the Islamists are perfectly serious, and know what they are doing. Their rhetoric has a millennial warrant, both in doctrine and in fact, and taps into a deep undercurrent that has characterized the political culture of Islam from the beginning. Though tempered and qualified in different places and at different times, the Islamic longing for unfettered suzerainty has never disappeared, and has resurfaced in our own day with a vengeance. It goes by the name of empire.

"I was ordered to fight all men until they say, "There is no god but Allah." With these farewell words, the prophet Muhammad summed up the international vision of the faith he brought to the world. As a universal religion, Islam envisages a global political order in which all humankind will live under Muslim rule as either believers or subject communities. In order to achieve this goal, it is incumbent on all free, male, adult Muslims to carry out an uncompromising "struggle in the path of Allah" or jihad. As the 14th-century historian and philosopher Abdel Rahman ibn Khaldun wrote, "In the Muslim community, the jihad is a religious duty because of the universalism of the Islamic mission and the obligation [to convert] everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force."

As a historical matter, the birth of Islam was inextricably linked with empire. Unlike Christianity and the Christian kingdoms that once existed under or alongside it, Islam has never distinguished between temporal and religious powers, which were combined in the person of Muhammad. Having fled from his hometown of Mecca to Medina in 622 c.e. to become a political and military leader rather than a private preacher, Muhammad spent the last ten years of his life fighting to unify Arabia under his rule. Indeed, he devised the concept of jihad shortly after his migration to Medina as a means of enticing his local followers to raid Meccan caravans. Had it not been for his sudden death, he probably would have expanded his reign well beyond the peninsula.

The Qur"anic revelations during Muhammad's Medina years abound with verses extolling the virtues of jihad, as do the countless sayings and traditions (hadith) attributed to the prophet. Those who participate in this holy pursuit are to be generously rewarded, both in this life and in the afterworld, where they will reside in shaded and ever-green gardens, indulged by pure women. Accordingly, those killed while waging jihad should not be mourned: "Allah has bought from the believers their soul and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the path of Allah; they kill and are killed. . . . So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph."

But the doctrine's appeal was not just otherworldly. By forbidding fighting and raiding within the community of believers (the umma), Muhammad had deprived the Arabian tribes of a traditional source of livelihood. For a time, the prophet could rely on booty from non-Muslims as a substitute for the lost war spoils, which is why he never went out of his way to convert all of the tribes seeking a place in his Pax Islamica. Yet given his belief in the supremacy of Islam and his relentless commitment to its widest possible dissemination, he could hardly deny conversion to those wishing to undertake it. Once the whole of Arabia had become Muslim, a new source of wealth and an alternative outlet would have to be found for the aggressive energies of the Arabian tribes, and it was, in the Fertile Crescent and the Levant.

Within twelve years of Muhammad's death, a Middle Eastern empire, stretching from Iran to Egypt and from Yemen to northern Syria, had come into being under the banner of Islam. By the early 8th century, the Muslims had hugely extended their grip to Central Asia and much of the Indian subcontinent, had laid siege to the Byzantine capital of Constantinople, and had overrun North Africa and Spain. Had they not been contained in 732 at the famous battle of Poitiers in west central France, they might well have swept deep into northern Europe.

Though sectarianism and civil war divided the Muslim world in the generations after Muhammad, the basic dynamic of Islam remained expansionist. The short-lived Umayyad dynasty (661-750) gave way to the ostensibly more pious Abbasid caliphs, whose readiness to accept non-Arabs solidified Islam's hold on its far-flung possessions. From their imperial capital of Baghdad, the Abbasids ruled, with waning authority, until the Mongol invasion of 1258. The most powerful of their successors would emerge in Anatolia, among the Ottoman Turks who invaded Europe in the mid-14th century and would conquer Constantinople in 1453, destroying the Byzantine empire and laying claim to virtually all of the Balkan peninsula and the eastern Mediterranean.

Like their Arab predecessors, the Ottomans were energetic empire-builders in the name of jihad. By the early 16th century, they had conquered Syria and Egypt from the Mamluks, the formidable slave soldiers who had contained the Mongols and destroyed the Crusader kingdoms. Under Sultan Suleiman the Magnificent, they soon turned northward. By the middle of the 17th century they seemed poised to overrun Christian Europe, only to be turned back in fierce fighting at the gates of Vienna in 1683, on September 11, of all dates. Though already on the defensive by the early 18th century, the Ottoman empire, the proverbial "sick man of Europe,"would endure another 200 years. Its demise at the hands of the victorious European powers of World War I, to say nothing of the work of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, the father of modern Turkish nationalism, finally brought an end both to the Ottoman caliphate itself and to Islam's centuries-long imperial reach.

To Islamic historians, the chronicles of Muslim empire represent a model of shining religious zeal and selfless exertion in the cause of Allah. Many Western historians, for their part, have been inclined to marvel at the perceived sophistication and tolerance of Islamic rule, praising the caliphs, cultivation of the arts and sciences and their apparent willingness to accommodate ethnic and religious minorities. There is some truth in both views, but neither captures the deeper and often more callous impulses at work in the expanding umma set in motion by Muhammad. For successive generations of Islamic rulers, imperial dominion was dictated not by universalistic religious principles but by their prophet's vision of conquest and his summons to fight and subjugate unbelievers.

That the worldly aims of Islam might conflict with its moral and spiritual demands was evident from the start of the caliphate. Though the Umayyad monarchs portrayed their constant wars of expansion as "jihad in the path of Allah," this was largely a façade, concealing an increasingly secular and absolutist rule. Lax in their attitude toward Islamic practices and mores, they were said to have set aside special days for drinking alcohol, specifically forbidden by the prophet,and showed little inhibition about appearing nude before their boon companions and female singers.

The coup staged by the Abbasids in 747-49 was intended to restore Islam's true ways and undo the godless practices of their predecessors; but they too, like the Umayyads, were first and foremost imperial monarchs. For the Abbasids, Islam was a means to consolidating their jurisdiction and enjoying the fruits of conquest. They complied with the stipulations of the nascent religious law (shari'a) only to the extent that it served their needs, and indulged in the same vices, wine, singing girls, and sexual license,that had ruined the reputation of the Umayyads.

Of particular importance to the Abbasids was material splendor. On the occasion of his nephew's coronation as the first Abbasid caliph, Dawud ibn Ali had proclaimed, "We did not rebel in order to grow rich in silver and in gold." Yet it was precisely the ever-increasing pomp of the royal court that would underpin Abbasid prestige. The gem-studded dishes of the caliph's table, the gilded curtains of the palace, the golden tree and ruby-eyed golden elephant that adorned the royal courtyard were a few of the opulent possessions that bore witness to this extravagance.

The riches of the empire, moreover, were concentrated in the hands of the few at the expense of the many. While the caliph might bestow thousands of dirhams on a favorite poet for reciting a few lines, ordinary laborers in Baghdad carried home a dirham or two a month. As for the empire's more distant subjects, the caliphs showed little interest in their conversion to the faith, preferring instead to colonize their lands and expropriate their wealth and labor. Not until the third Islamic century did the bulk of these populations embrace the religion of their imperial masters, and this was a process emanating from below, an effort by non-Arabs to escape paying tribute and to remove social barriers to their advancement. To make matters worse, the metropolis plundered the resources of the provinces, a practice inaugurated at the time of Muhammad and reaching its apogee under the Abbasids. Combined with the government's weakening control of the periphery, this shameless exploitation triggered numerous rebellions throughout the empire.

Tension between the center and the periphery was, indeed, to become the hallmark of Islam's imperial experience. Even in its early days, under the Umayyads, the empire was hopelessly overextended, largely because of inadequate means of communication and control. Under the Abbasids, a growing number of provinces fell under the sway of local dynasties. With no effective metropolis, the empire was reduced to an agglomeration of entities united only by the overarching factors of language and religion. Though the Ottomans temporarily reversed the trend, their own imperial ambitions were likewise eventually thwarted by internal fragmentation.

In the long history of Islamic empire, the wide gap between delusions of grandeur and the centrifugal forces of localism would be bridged time and again by force of arms, making violence a key element of Islamic political culture. No sooner had Muhammad died than his successor, Abu Bakr, had to suppress a widespread revolt among the Arabian tribes. Twenty-three years later, the head of the umma, the caliph Uthman ibn Affan, was murdered by disgruntled rebels; his successor, Ali ibn Abi Talib, was confronted for most of his reign with armed insurrections, most notably by the governor of Syria, Mu'awiya ibn Abi Sufian, who went on to establish the Umayyad dynasty after Ali's assassination. Mu'awiya's successors managed to hang on to power mainly by relying on physical force, and were consumed for most of their reign with preventing or quelling revolts in the diverse corners of their empire. The same was true for the Abbasids during the long centuries of their sovereignty.

Western academics often hold up the Ottoman empire as an exception to this earlier pattern. In fact the caliphate did deal relatively gently with its vast non-Muslim subject populations,provided that they acquiesced in their legal and institutional inferiority in the Islamic order of things. When these groups dared to question their subordinate status, however, let alone attempt to break free from the Ottoman yoke, they were viciously put down. In the century or so between Napoleon's conquests in the Middle East and World War I, the Ottomans embarked on an orgy of bloodletting in response to the nationalist aspirations of their European subjects. The Greek war of independence of the 1820's, the Danubian uprisings of 1848 and the attendant Crimean war, the Balkan explosion of the 1870's, the Greco-Ottoman war of 1897, all were painful reminders of the costs of resisting Islamic imperial rule.

Nor was such violence confined to Ottoman Europe. Turkey's Afro-Asiatic provinces, though far less infected with the nationalist virus, were also scenes of mayhem and destruction. The Ottoman army or its surrogates brought force to bear against Wahhabi uprisings in Mesopotamia and the Levant in the early 19th century, against civil strife in Lebanon in the 1840's (culminating in the 1860 massacres in Mount Lebanon and Damascus), and against a string of Kurdish rebellions. In response to the national awakening of the Armenians in the 1890's, Constantinople killed tens of thousands, a taste of the horrors that lay ahead for the Armenians during World War I.

The legacy of this imperial experience is not difficult to discern in today's Islamic world. Physical force has remained the main if not the sole instrument of political discourse in the Middle East. Throughout the region, absolute leaders still supersede political institutions, and citizenship is largely synonymous with submission; power is often concentrated in the hands of small, oppressive minorities; religious, ethnic, and tribal conflicts abound; and the overriding preoccupation of sovereigns is with their own survival.

At the domestic level, these circumstances have resulted in the world's most illiberal polities. Political dissent is dealt with by repression, and ethnic and religious differences are settled by internecine strife and murder. One need only mention, among many instances, Syria's massacre of 20,000 of its Muslim activists in the early 1980's, or the brutal treatment of Iraq's Shiite and Kurdish communities until the 2003 war, or the genocidal campaign now being conducted in Darfur by the government of Sudan and its allied militias. As for foreign policy in the Middle East, it too has been pursued by means of crude force, ranging from terrorism and subversion to outright aggression, with examples too numerous and familiar to cite.

Reinforcing these habits is the fact that, to this day, Islam has retained its imperial ambitions. The last great Muslim empire may have been destroyed and the caliphate left vacant, but the dream of regional and world domination has remained very much alive. Even the ostensibly secular doctrine of pan-Arabism has been effectively Islamic in its ethos, worldview, and imperialist vision. In the words of Nuri Said, longtime prime minister of Iraq and a prominent early champion of this doctrine: "Although Arabs are naturally attached to their native land, their nationalism is not confined by boundaries. It is an aspiration to restore the great tolerant civilization of the early caliphate."

That this "great tolerant civilization" reached well beyond today's Middle East is not lost on those who hope for its restoration. Like the leaders of al Qaeda, many Muslims and Arabs unabashedly pine for the reconquest of Spain and consider their 1492 expulsion from the country a grave historical injustice waiting to be undone. Indeed, as immigration and higher rates of childbirth have greatly increased the number of Muslims within Europe itself over the past several decades, countries that were never ruled by the caliphate have become targets of Muslim imperial ambition. Since the late 1980's, Islamists have looked upon the growing population of French Muslims as proof that France, too, has become a part of the House of Islam. In Britain, even the more moderate elements of the Muslim community are candid in setting out their aims. As the late Zaki Badawi, a doyen of interfaith dialogue in the UK, put it, "Islam is a universal religion. It aims to bring its message to all corners of the earth. It hopes that one day the whole of humanity will be one Muslim community."

Whether in its militant or its more benign version, this world-conquering agenda continues to meet with condescension and denial on the part of many educated Westerners. To intellectuals, foreign-policy experts, and politicians alike, "empire" and "imperialism" are categories that apply exclusively to the European powers and, more recently, to the United States. In this view of things, Muslims, whether in the Middle East or elsewhere, are merely objects, the long-suffering victims of the aggressive encroachments of others. Lacking an internal, autonomous dynamic of its own, their history is rather a function of their unhappy interaction with the West, whose obligation it is to make amends. This perspective dominated the widespread explanation of the 9/11 attacks as only a response to America's (allegedly) arrogant and self-serving foreign policy, particularly with respect to the Arab-Israeli conflict.

As we have seen, however, Islamic history has been anything but reactive. From Muhammad to the Ottomans, the story of Islam has been the story of the rise and fall of an often astonishing imperial aggressiveness and, no less important, of never quiescent imperial dreams. Even as these dreams have repeatedly frustrated any possibility for the peaceful social and political development of the Arab-Muslim world, they have given rise to no less repeated fantasies of revenge and restoration and to murderous efforts to transform fantasy into fact. If, today, America is reviled in the Muslim world, it is not because of its specific policies but because, as the preeminent world power, it blocks the final realization of this same age-old dream of regaining, in Zawahiri's words, the "lost glory" of the caliphate.

Nor is the vision confined to a tiny extremist fringe. This we saw in the overwhelming support for the 9/11 attacks throughout the Arab and Islamic worlds, in the admiring evocations of bin Laden's murderous acts during the crisis over the Danish cartoons, and in such recent findings as the poll indicating significant reservoirs of sympathy among Muslims in Britain for the "feelings and motives" of the suicide bombers who attacked London last July. In the historical imagination of many Muslims and Arabs, bin Laden represents nothing short of the new incarnation of Saladin, defeater of the Crusaders and conqueror of Jerusalem. In this sense, the House of Islam's war for world mastery is a traditional, indeed venerable, quest that is far from over.

To the contrary, now that this war has itself met with a so far determined counterattack by the United States and others, and with a Western intervention in the heart of the House of Islam, it has escalated to a new stage of virulence. In many Middle Eastern countries, Islamist movements, and movements appealing to traditionalist Muslims, are now jockeying fiercely for positions of power, both against the Americans and against secular parties. For the Islamists, the stakes are very high indeed, for if the political elites of the Middle East and elsewhere were ever to reconcile themselves to the reality that there is no Arab or Islamic "nation" but only modern Muslim states with destinies and domestic responsibilities of their own, the imperialist dream would die.

It is in recognition of this state of affairs that Zawahiri wrote his now famous letter to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the head of al Qaeda in Iraq, in July 2005. If, Zawahiri instructed his lieutenant, al Qaeda's strategy for Iraq and elsewhere were to succeed, it would have to take into account the growing thirst among many Arabs for democracy and a normal life, and strive not to alienate popular opinion through such polarizing deeds as suicide attacks on fellow Muslims. Only by harnessing popular support, Zawahiri concluded, would it be possible to come to power by means of democracy itself, thereby to establish jihadist rule in Iraq, and then to move onward to conquer still larger and more distant realms and impose the writ of Islam far and wide.

Something of the same logic clearly underlies the carefully plotted rise of Hamas in the Palestinian Authority, the (temporarily thwarted) attempt by the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt to exploit the demand for free elections there, and the accession of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Iran. Indeed, as reported by Mark MacKinnon in the Toronto Globe & Mail, some analysts now see a new "axis of Islam" arising in the Middle East, uniting Hizballah, Hamas, Iran, Syria, the Muslim Brotherhood, elements of Iraq' Shiites, and others in an anti-American, anti-Israel alliance backed by Russia.

Whether or not any such structure exists or can be forged, the fact is that the fuel of Islamic imperialism remains as volatile as ever, and is very far from having burned itself out. To deny its force is the height of folly, and to imagine that it can be appeased or deflected is to play into its hands. Only when it is defeated, and when the faith of Islam is no longer a tool of Islamic political ambition, will the inhabitants of Muslim lands, and the rest of the world, be able to look forward to a future less burdened by Saladins and their gory dreams.

Efraim Karsh is head of Mediterranean Studies at King's College, University of London, and the author of, among other works, Arafat's War, Saddam Hussein: A Political Biography, and Empires of the Sand: The Struggle for Mastery in the Middle East. His new book, Islamic Imperialism: A History, on which this article is based, is about to be published by Yale.

WHAT TO DO?

NOTHING?

DENY?

REFUTE?

RUN AWAY?

NEGOTIATE?

EXTERMINATE?

WHAT?
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Fri 28 Apr, 2006 03:17 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Some people continue to claim that this war in Iraq is worth it. Are you one of those?
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If we survive, it was worth winning.

If we do not survive, it was worth trying.

If there was no threat to our survival, how many civilian mass murders would have satisfied the terroist malignancy?

If only 50,000, then what the hell, that's hardly more than how many of us die in traffic accidents in a year, right? Mad

If only 50,000,000, then what the hell, that's hardly more than one-sixth of the almost 300,000,000 USA population, right? Mad

I say it is worth whatever it takes for almost all of us to survive!
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Fri 28 Apr, 2006 03:42 pm
The central flaw in American foreign policy up to and including 9/11 was a failure to timely and properly assess the degree of threat to the security of Americans presented by the growing terrorist malignancy.
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UN CHARTER Article 51
Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.


President Clinton 1st term
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List of terrorist incidents
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


1993
January 25: Mir Aimal Kansi, a Pakistani, fires an AK-47 assault rifle into cars waiting at a stoplight in front of the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters. Two died.
February 26: World Trade Center bombing kills 6 and injures over 1000 people.
March 12: Mumbai car bombings in India leave 257 dead with 1,400 others injured
March 20: IRA bomb in Warrington kills two children (Warrington Bomb Attacks)
April 24: IRA detonate a huge truck bomb in the City of London at Bishopsgate, killing two and causing approximately £350m of damage.
June: Failed New York City landmark bomb plot.
June 21: ETA Basque terrorist group bombs a military truck in Madrid, kills 7, 36 injured.
July 5: the IRA detonate a 1500lb car bomb (the largest used in Northern Ireland) in the centre of Newtownards in Northern Ireland, no one is killed but massive property damage is caused to the town centre.
October 23: the Shankill Road bombing at a fish and chip shop on the Protestant Shankill Road, Belfast kills 10 people, including two children.
October 30: Seven people killed in the Rising Sun Bar massacre, when Loyalist UFF gunmen attack a bar in Greysteel, Co Derry.

1994
February 25: Baruch Goldstein kills 29 Palestinian civilians in an attack in the Cave of the Patriarchs in Hebron.
June 18: Six Catholic men shot dead by Loyalists in a pub in Loughinisland, Co Derry.
July 18: Bombing of Jewish Center in Buenos Aires, Argentina, kills 86 and wounds 300. Generally attributed to Hezbollah acting on behalf of Iran.
July 19: Alas Chiricanas Flight 00901 is bombed, killing 21. Generally attributed to Hezbollah.
July 26: Israeli Embassy Attack in London and a Jewish charity are car-bombed, wounding 20. Attributed by Britain, Argentina, and Israel to Hezbollah.
December 11: A small bomb explodes on board Philippine Airlines Flight 434, killing a Japanese businessman. Authorities found out that Ramzi Yousef planted the bomb to test it for his planned terrorist attack.
December 24: Air France Flight 8969 is hijacked by GIA members who planned to crash the plane on Paris but didn't succeed.

1995
January 6: Operation Bojinka is discovered on a laptop computer in a Manila, Philippines apartment by authorities after an apartment fire occurred in the apartment.
March 20: Sarin gas attack on the Tokyo subway by AUM Shinrikyo cultists kills 12 and injures 6000.
April 19: ETA Basque militant group tries to kill José María Aznar (then leader of the Popular Party, later a Spanish Prime Minister) bombing his car, kills a woman.
April 19: Oklahoma City bombing kills 168 people, 19 of them children; the most deadly act of domestic act of terrorism the United States to date.
July—October: Bombings in France by a GIA unit led by Khaled Kelkal kill eight and injure more than 100.
August 27: Suicide bomber in Colombo, Sri Lanka kills 24, injures 40.
October 9: An Amtrak Sunset Limited train is derailed by anti-government saboteurs near Palo Verde, Arizona.
November 11: Suicide bombing of army headquarters in Colombo, Sri Lanka kills 15.
November 13: Bombing of military compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia kills 7
November 19: Bombing of Egyptian Embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan kills 19.
December 11: ETA Basque militant group bombs a military truck in Madrid, killing 6 civilian public

1996
January: In Kizlyar, 350 Chechen militants took 3,000 hostages in a hospital. The attempt to free them kills 65 civilians and soldiers.
January: Provisional Irish Republican Army plants a bomb that police defuse at the Canary Wharf towers in London.
January 31: Central Bank Bombing in Sri Lanka kills 90 and wounds 1,400.
February 9: IRA bombs the South Quay DLR station, killing two people.
February 25 - March 4: A series of four suicide bombings in Israel leave 60 dead and 284 wounded within 10 days.

May 19: Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda left Sudan for sanctuary in Afghanistan.

June 15: Manchester bombing by IRA.
June 25: Khobar Towers bombing -- In all, 19 U.S. servicemen and one Saudi were killed and 372 wounded.
July 24: Bomb on commuter train in Sri Lanka kills 57.
July 27: Centennial Olympic Park bombing, killing one and wounding 111.

The August 1996 Declaration of War
On or about August 23, 1996, a Declaration of Jihad indicating that it was from the Hindu Kush mountains in Afghanistan entitled, "Message from Usamah Bin-Muhammad Bin-Laden to His Muslim Brothers in the Whole World and Especially in the Arabian Peninsula: Declaration of Jihad Against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Mosques; Expel the Heretics from the Arabian Peninsula" was disseminated.


December 17: Japanese embassy hostage crisis begins in Lima, Peru; it ends April 22, 1997 with the deaths of 14 rebels, two soldiers and a hostage.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Fri 28 Apr, 2006 04:37 pm
revel wrote:

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Iraq had nothing to do with Bin Laden so Ican's entire post as usual is irrelevant. Ahead of time, Ican, already been there and done that about the not significant amount of AQ presence in Iraq at the time of the invasion debate, don't want to do it again. Your assessments don't match with most experts including the 9/11 report and will leave it at that.

"including the 9/11 report" Question

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http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch2.htm
2.4 BUILDING AN ORGANIZATION, DECLARING WAR ON THE UNITED STATES (1992-1996)
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Bin Ladin was also willing to explore possibilities for cooperation with Iraq, even though Iraq's dictator, Saddam Hussein, had never had an Islamist agenda-save for his opportunistic pose as a defender of the faithful against "Crusaders" during the Gulf War of 1991. Moreover, Bin Ladin had in fact been sponsoring anti-Saddam Islamists in Iraqi Kurdistan, and sought to attract them into his Islamic army.53

To protect his own ties with Iraq, Turabi reportedly brokered an agreement that Bin Ladin would stop supporting activities against Saddam. Bin Ladin apparently honored this pledge, at least for a time, although he continued to aid a group of Islamist extremists operating in part of Iraq (Kurdistan) outside of Baghdad's control. In the late 1990s, these extremist groups suffered major defeats by Kurdish forces. In 2001, with Bin Ladin's help they re-formed into an organization called Ansar al Islam. There are indications that by then the Iraqi regime tolerated and may even have helped Ansar al Islam against the common Kurdish enemy.54
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 28 Apr, 2006 06:38 pm
US charges ex-Abu Ghraib officer
The US military has charged the former head of the interrogation centre at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison over the abuse of Iraqi detainees.
Lt-Col Steven Jordan has been charged with seven offences including maltreatment of prisoners.

He is the highest ranking officer to face criminal charges over events at the prison.

Ten lower-ranking soldiers have already been convicted for abusing prisoners at Abu Ghraib from 2003 to 2004.

Two officers more senior than Lt-Col Jordan have been disciplined by the army over the scandal, but neither faced criminal charges.

Failure to supervise

Lt-Col Jordan was in charge of the Joint Interrogation and Debriefing Centre at the prison during the second half of 2003.


The charges
Cruelty and maltreatment (1 count)
Dereliction of duty (3 counts)
Making false official statements (2 counts)
Making a false statement (1 count)
Fraud (2 counts)
Wrongful interference with an investigation (1 count
Disobeying a superior officer (2 counts)

A document released by the military detailed 12 counts relating to the seven separate charges.

It says Lt-Col Jordan maltreated prisoners by subjecting them "to forced nudity and intimidation by military working dogs".

It also accuses him of dereliction of duty in failing to train and supervise soldiers to meet military requirements on interrogation, which "resulted in the abuse of Iraqi detainees".

Other charges include wrongful interference with an investigation and making false official statements to investigators probing the abuse allegations.

A preliminary hearing will be held when Lt-Col Jordan's defence team have had time to prepare, but no date has been set yet, the US military said.


The issue of Abu Ghraib came to light in April 2004 after images emerged of US troops abusing prisoners. The footage included naked prisoners placed in humiliating positions and detainees cowering from aggressive dogs.

The BBC's Jonathan Beale says while human rights groups have welcomed the decision to prosecute a senior officer, they see this as just a first step.

There is still anger that no-one in the administration has taken responsibility for the abuses, our correspondent says.


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/4956946.stm

Published: 2006/04/28 23:50:01 GMT
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Fri 28 Apr, 2006 06:48 pm
This is how this administration treats our vets:

Thu Apr 27, 9:56 PM ET



WASHINGTON - After suffering paralysis, brain damage, lost limbs and other wounds in war, nearly 900 Army soldiers ran up $1.2 million in debt because of the military's "complex, cumbersome" pay system, congressional investigators said Thursday.


The report from the Government Accountability Office said another 400 who died in the wars had $300,000 in debt but that the Defense Department doesn't pursue collection of people killed in combat.

"We found that hundreds of separated battle-injured soldiers were pursued for collection of military debts incurred through no fault of their own," said the report. It said that included seeking reimbursement for errors in pay or for equipment left on the battlefield.

The problem became known months ago as soldiers began to complain and lawmakers asked for the report.

The Pentagon said it has been working to resolve it.

"My experience is the military ... when these things are reported to them, work aggressively to resolve them," said Defense Department spokesman Bryan Whitman.

"Not by way of trying to make any excuses, it's clear that our ... processes could be shored up to try to prevent some of these ... from happening."


This administration talks a good game of supporting our troops, but the realities are just the opposite. They also have the metigated gall to call those that challenge this administration's policies on the war "unpatriotic," and it harms our troops.
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revel
 
  1  
Reply Sat 29 Apr, 2006 06:39 am
ican711nm wrote:
revel wrote:

...
Iraq had nothing to do with Bin Laden so Ican's entire post as usual is irrelevant. Ahead of time, Ican, already been there and done that about the not significant amount of AQ presence in Iraq at the time of the invasion debate, don't want to do it again. Your assessments don't match with most experts including the 9/11 report and will leave it at that.

"including the 9/11 report" Question

emphasis added by ican
Quote:

http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch2.htm
2.4 BUILDING AN ORGANIZATION, DECLARING WAR ON THE UNITED STATES (1992-1996)
...
Bin Ladin was also willing to explore possibilities for cooperation with Iraq, even though Iraq's dictator, Saddam Hussein, had never had an Islamist agenda-save for his opportunistic pose as a defender of the faithful against "Crusaders" during the Gulf War of 1991. Moreover, Bin Ladin had in fact been sponsoring anti-Saddam Islamists in Iraqi Kurdistan, and sought to attract them into his Islamic army.53

To protect his own ties with Iraq, Turabi reportedly brokered an agreement that Bin Ladin would stop supporting activities against Saddam. Bin Ladin apparently honored this pledge, at least for a time, although he continued to aid a group of Islamist extremists operating in part of Iraq (Kurdistan) outside of Baghdad's control. In the late 1990s, these extremist groups suffered major defeats by Kurdish forces. In 2001, with Bin Ladin's help they re-formed into an organization called Ansar al Islam. There are indications that by then the Iraqi regime tolerated and may even have helped Ansar al Islam against the common Kurdish enemy.54


Ican, we have been over this same ground a thousand times in the past Iraq threads. You know that the 9/11 report said that though there was exploration so to speak but there was no collaborative relationship between Iraqi's regime and AQ. As for the last, "indications" and "may" is hardly a strong reason to justify a war based on AQ connections. Such evidence with those words "indications" and " may have" would be laughed at in a court of law and I would think we would need more when we are talking about invading a nation and lives are at stake.

As the following years have shown us, now we really do have a AQ connection with Iraq and AQ not to mention the civil war in all but name that is going on in Iraq which wasn't going on before we invaded, so invading Iraq has done more harm than good all the way around. Staying there is not going to help or hurt matters at this point, it's all out of our control.

I only hope we don't make the same mistake and listen to all you guys again and do the same with Iran. We have already failed in Afghanistan and Iraq, the world can't afford to have these jokers lead us into another failure.

I know the Iran situation is different than Iraq, this time we actually have someone who has nuclear power and who goes around saying stupid things. But number one, if one country can have nuclear power or weapons, then another country can have nuclear power and number two, a war with Iran would cause more harm than good, the whole middle east would implode.
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blueflame1
 
  1  
Reply Sat 29 Apr, 2006 07:52 am
In Iraqi Town, Trainees Are Also Suspects
U.S. Troops Wary After Incidents Suggest Betrayal

By Jonathan Finer
Washington Post Foreign Service
Saturday, April 29, 2006; A01



HAWIJAH, Iraq -- After midnight on a bare stretch of highway near this ramshackle town last week, Staff Sgt. Jason Hoover saw what looked like a fishing line strung across the road and ordered his Humvee to a screeching halt.

The cord was connected to an old, Russian artillery shell half-buried in the earthen shoulder and rigged to activate with a firm tug. Hoover traced its path nearly a half-mile though a plowed field, over another highway, and across a canal, where he found four Iraqi infrastructure policemen who were supposed to be guarding an oil pipeline. They said they had no idea what the cord was doing there.

"There's two kinds of Iraqis here, the ones who help us and the ones who shoot us, and there's an awful lot of 'em doing both," said Hoover, 26, of Newark, Ohio. "Is it frustrating? Yes, it's frustrating. But we can't just stop working with them."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/28/AR2006042802244_pf.html
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Gelisgesti
 
  1  
Reply Sat 29 Apr, 2006 08:04 am
I wonder how much 'they' would consider 'worth it' to bring the vote and the ensuing democracy to the Sudanese?
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ican711nm
 
  1  
Reply Sat 29 Apr, 2006 12:20 pm
revel wrote:

...
Ican, we have been over this same ground a thousand times in the past Iraq threads. You know that the 9/11 report said that though there was exploration so to speak but there was no collaborative relationship between Iraqi's regime and AQ.

Whatever it takes for you to accept the truth!

emphasis added by ican
Quote:
http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch2.htm

2.4 BUILDING AN ORGANIZATION, DECLARING WAR ON THE UNITED STATES (1992-1996)
...
To protect his own ties with Iraq, Turabi reportedly brokered an agreement that Bin Ladin would stop supporting activities against Saddam. Bin Ladin apparently honored this pledge, at least for a time, although he continued to aid a group of Islamist extremists operating in part of Iraq (Kurdistan) outside of Baghdad's control. In the late 1990s, these extremist groups suffered major defeats by Kurdish forces. In 2001, with Bin Ladin's help they re-formed into an organization called Ansar al Islam. There are indications that by then the Iraqi regime tolerated and may even have helped Ansar al Islam against the common Kurdish enemy.54
...
2.5 AL QAEDA'S RENEWAL IN AFGHANISTAN (1996-1998)
...
Similar meetings between Iraqi officials and Bin Ladin or his aides may have occurred in 1999 during a period of some reported strains with the Taliban. According to the reporting, Iraqi officials offered Bin Ladin a safe haven in Iraq. Bin Ladin declined, apparently judging that his circumstances in Afghanistan remained more favorable than the Iraqi alternative. The reports describe friendly contacts and indicate some common themes in both sides' hatred of the United States. But to date we have seen no evidence that these or the earlier contacts ever developed into a collaborative operational relationship. Nor have we seen evidence indicating that Iraq cooperated with al Qaeda in developing or carrying out any attacks against the United States.76
...
The Taliban seemed to open the doors to all who wanted to come to Afghanistan to train in the camps. The alliance with the Taliban provided al Qaeda a sanctuary in which to train and indoctrinate fighters and terrorists, import weapons, forge ties with other jihad groups and leaders, and plot and staff terrorist schemes. While Bin Ladin maintained his own al Qaeda guesthouses and camps for vetting and training recruits, he also provided support to and benefited from the broad infrastructure of such facilities in Afghanistan made available to the global network of Islamist movements. U.S. intelligence estimates put the total number of fighters who underwent instruction in Bin Ladin-supported camps in Afghanistan from 1996 through 9/11 at 10,000 to 20,000.78
...

My conclusions:
1. Bin Ladin helped Ansar al Islam establish sanctuary in Iraq in 2001;
2. Ansar al Islam was afiliated with bin Laden.
3. Ansar al Islam was affiliated with al-Qaeda.
4. None of the 1999 or earlier contacts between bin Laden and Iraq subsequently developed into a collaborative operational relationship with Iraq;
5. None of the 1999 or earlier contacts between al-Qaeda and Iraq subsequently subsequently developed into a collaborative operational relationship with Iraq;
6. Al-Qaeda established a sanctuary in Iraq in 2001;
7. It took al-Qaeda 5 years after it established a sanctuary in Afganistan in 1996 to mass murder almost 3,000 American civilians in 2001;
8. The USA acted in its own self-defense, when it invaded Iraq and attacked al-Qaeda in 2003, less than five years after al-Qaeda established a sanctuary in Iraq;
9. Had the USA invaded Afghanistan in 1998 instead of in 2001 and attacked al-Qaeda less than five years after al-Qaeda established its sanctuary in Afghanistan, 9/11 would have been prevented;
10. Neither the government of Afghanistan or the government of Iraq responded to our requests prior to our invasions to remove al-Qaeda's sanctuaries from their countries.
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ican711nm
 
  1  
Reply Sat 29 Apr, 2006 01:37 pm
The central flaw in American foreign policy up to and including 9/11 was a failure to timely and properly assess the degree of threat to the security of Americans presented by the growing terrorist malignancy.
Quote:
UN CHARTER Article 51
Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.


President Clinton 2nd term
Notes inserted by ican
Quote:
List of terrorist incidents
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1997
February 24: An armed man opens fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State Building in New York City, United States, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claims this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine".
February 25: Three bus bombs in Urumqi destroy the No. 2, 10, and 44 buses, killing 9.
November 17: Luxor Massacre: Islamist gunmen attack tourists in Luxor, Egypt, killing 62 people, most of them European and Japanese vacationers.
December 22: Acteal massacre: 46 killed while praying in Acteal, Chiapas, Mexico. A paramilitary group associated with ex-president Salinas is held responsible.
Luis Posada Carriles organized a string of bombings at luxury hotels in Cuba in 1997 in order to discourage the growth of the tourism industry. One Italian tourist died.

1998
January : Wandhama Massacre - 24 Kashmiri Pandits are massacred by Pakistan-backed insurgents in the city of Wandhama in Indian-controlled Kashmir .
January 25: Bombing of Sri Dalada Maligawa in Kandy, Sri Lanka kills 17.

Quote:
The February 1998 Fatwah Against American Civilians
In February 1998, Usama Bin Laden endorsed a fatwah under the banner of the "International Islamic Front for Jihad on the Jews and Crusaders." This fatwah, published in the publication Al-Quds al-`Arabi on February 23, 1998, stated that Muslims should kill Americans - including civilians - anywhere in the world where they can be found.

In an address in or about 1998, Usama Bin Laden cited American aggression against Islam and encouraged a jihad that would eliminate the Americans from the Arabian Peninsula.


February 25: Serial bombing in Coimbatore, a southern Indian city, which kill at least 61 people.

Quote:
Bin Laden Endorses the Nuclear Bomb of Islam
On or about May 29, 1998, Usama Bin Laden issued a statement entitled "The Nuclear Bomb of Islam," under the banner of the "International Islamic Front for Fighting the Jews and the Crusaders," in which he stated that "it is the duty of the Muslims to prepare as much force as possible to terrorize the enemies of God."


August 7: U.S. embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya, killing 225 people and injuring more than 4,000.
August 15: Omagh bombing by the so-called "Real IRA" kills 29.

Quote:
August 20, Navy vessels in the Arabian Sea fired their cruise missiles ... at bin Laden camps in Afghanistan near Khowst ... Though most of them hit their intended targets, neither Bin Ladin nor any other terrorist leader was killed. Berger told us that an after-action review by Director Tenet concluded that the strikes had killed 20-30 people in the camps but probably missed Bin Ladin by a few hours.46


1999
January 3: Gunmen open fire on Shi'a Muslims worshipping in an Islamabad mosque, killing 16 people injuring 25.

April: David Copeland's nail bomb attacks against ethnic minorities and gays in London kill three people and injure over 160.

Quote:
Usama Bin Laden Issues Further Threats in June 1999
In or about June 1999, in an interview with an Arabic-language television station, Usama Bin Laden issued a further threat indicating that all American males should be killed.


August 31 & September 22: Russian Apartment Bombings kills about 300 people, leading Russia into Second Chechen War.
December: Jordanian authorities foil a plot to bomb US and Israeli tourists in Jordan and pick up 28 suspects as part of the 2000 millennium attack plots
December 14: Ahmed Ressam is arrested on the United States & Canada border in Port Angeles, Washington; he confessed to planning to bomb the Los Angeles International Airport as part of the 2000 millennium attack plots
December 24: Indian Airlines Flight 814 from Kathmandu, Nepal to Delhi, India is hijacked. One passenger is killed and some hostages are released. After negotiations between the Taliban and the Indian government, the last of the remaining hostages on board Flight 814 are released.

2000
Terrorism against Israel in 2000.
The last of the 2000 millennium attack plots fails, as the boat meant to bomb USS The Sullivans sinks.
German police foil Strasbourg cathedral bombing plot.
June 8: Stephen Saunders, a British Defense Attaché, was assassinated by Revolutionary Organization 17 November in Athens.

Quote:
Usama Bin Laden Calls for "Jihad" to Free Imprisoned Terrorists
In or about September 2000, in an interview with an Arabic-language television station, Usama Bin Laden called for a "jihad" to release the "brothers" in jail "everywhere."


October 12: USS Cole bombing kills 17 US sailors.
December 30 Rizal Day Bombings, terrorists blow up LRts in Manila killing 22 and injuring more than 100 people.
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McTag
 
  1  
Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 05:17 am
Just when you thought black jokes could not get any blacker:

NYT

INTERNATIONAL | April 30, 2006
U.S. Says It Fears Detainee Abuse in Repatriation
By TIM GOLDEN
The release of suspects from Guantánamo Bay has been stymied by concerns that the prisoners may not be treated humanely by their own governments.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 11:24 am
Another reason why the war in Iraq cannot be won:

In Iraqi Town, Trainees Are Also Suspects
U.S. Troops Wary After Incidents Suggest Betrayal

By Jonathan Finer
Washington Post Foreign Service
Saturday, April 29, 2006; Page A01

HAWIJAH, Iraq -- After midnight on a bare stretch of highway near this ramshackle town last week, Staff Sgt. Jason Hoover saw what looked like a fishing line strung across the road and ordered his Humvee to a screeching halt.

The cord was connected to an old, Russian artillery shell half-buried in the earthen shoulder and rigged to activate with a firm tug. Hoover traced its path nearly a half-mile though a plowed field, over another highway, and across a canal, where he found four Iraqi infrastructure policemen who were supposed to be guarding an oil pipeline. They said they had no idea what the cord was doing there.

Lt. Aaron Tapalman, 23, argues with Iraqi soldiers about who will deal with a suspected roadside bomb on a highway near northern city of Hawijah.
Lt. Aaron Tapalman, 23, argues with Iraqi soldiers about who will deal with a suspected roadside bomb on a highway near northern city of Hawijah. (By Jonathan Finer -- The Washington Post)
News From Iraq

"There's two kinds of Iraqis here, the ones who help us and the ones who shoot us, and there's an awful lot of 'em doing both," said Hoover, 26, of Newark, Ohio. "Is it frustrating? Yes, it's frustrating. But we can't just stop working with them."

The incident is a window on the mixed results of U.S. efforts to train Iraqi forces. American troops trying to tame the restive northern town of Hawijah have done what has proven impossible in many Sunni Arab enclaves: raised a security force from local volunteers. More than 1,500 Iraqi soldiers and 2,000 policemen patrol the area, virtually all of them drawn from the city and the pastoral hamlets that surround it.

But in a town where the local population is hostile to the American presence in Iraq, U.S. soldiers have developed a deep distrust of their Iraqi counterparts following a slew of incidents that suggest the troops they are training are cooperating with their enemies.


Would you fight in this war, or send one of your loved one to serve?
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 11:53 am
This administration keeps implying that there are successes in Iraq. Only a blind person can't see the chaos and violence perpetrated daily. Then, there's this report about terrorism around the world.

Terrorist Attacks Rose Sharply in 2005, State Dept. Says

By Karen DeYoung
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, April 29, 2006; Page A01

The number of terrorist attacks worldwide increased nearly fourfold in 2005 to 11,111, with strikes in Iraq accounting for 30 percent of the total, according to statistics released by U.S. counterterrorism officials yesterday.
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ican711nm
 
  1  
Reply Sun 30 Apr, 2006 08:07 pm
The central flaw in American foreign policy up to and including 9/11/2001 was a failure to timely and properly assess the degree of threat to the security of Americans presented by the growing terrorist malignancy.
Quote:
UN CHARTER Article 51
Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual or collective self-defence if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations, until the Security Council has taken measures necessary to maintain international peace and security. Measures taken by Members in the exercise of this right of self-defence shall be immediately reported to the Security Council and shall not in any way affect the authority and responsibility of the Security Council under the present Charter to take at any time such action as it deems necessary in order to maintain or restore international peace and security.


President Bush (43) 1st term
Notes inserted by ican
Quote:
List of terrorist incidents
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2001
Terrorism against Israel in 2001.
February 5: A bomb blast in Moscow's Byelorusskaya metro station injures 15 people.
February 18: Gracanica bus bombing, 13 Serbian civilians are killed by a bomb attack on a bus in Northern Kosovo.
March 24: Twenty people die and 93 are injured in three bomb attacks on Russian towns near the border of Chechnya.
August 2: The last (at time of writing) IRA bomb on mainland Britain explodes in Ealing, West London, though there are no injuries.
August 9: A suicide bomber in Jerusalem kills seven and wounds 130 in the Sbarro restaurant suicide bombing; Hamas and Islamic Jihad claim responsibility.
The attacks on September 11 kill almost 3,000 in a series of hijacked airliner crashes into two U.S. landmarks: the World Trade Center in New York City, New York, and The Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia. A fourth plane, originally intended to hit The White House, crashes in Somerset County, Pennsylvania.

Clearly, for Americans to survive, USA's past middle eastern foreign policy has to be replaced now in 2001 by a policy that works better.

Paris embassy attack plot foiled.
October 1: A car bomb explodes near the Jammu and Kashmir state assembly in Srinagar, India killing 35 people and injuring 40 more.

October 20: USA invades Afghanistan.

Anthrax attacks on the offices the United States Congress and New York State Government offices, and on employees of television networks and tabloid.
December 13: Terrorist attack on Indian Parliament.

Quote:
In the late 1990s, these extremist groups [in Iraq] suffered major defeats by Kurdish forces. In 2001, with Bin Ladin's help they re-formed [in Iraq] into an organization called Ansar al Islam.


Jewish Defense League plot to blow up the King Fahd Mosque in Culver City, California, foiled.
December 22: Richard Reid, attempting to destroy American Airlines Flight 63, is subdued by passengers and flight attendants before he could detonate his shoe bomb.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 01:35 am
Quote:
Rice, after hearing Powell, defends planning for Iraq
Ex-secretary spoke of adding troops


By Vicki Allen, Reuters | May 1, 2006

WASHINGTON -- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice yesterday defended the Bush administration's Iraq war planning yesterday, after her predecessor, Colin L. Powell, said he had made a case before the invasion to send more troops for the war's aftermath.

Rice also said she did not remember specifically when Powell had made his recommendation to President Bush that more troops be sent to Iraq.

In an interview yesterday with ITV, the British television network, Powell said there had been debates about the size of the force and about the aftermath.

''I don't think we had enough force there to impose order," he said on ITV's ''Jonathan Dimbleby" program.

''The aftermath turned out to be much more difficult than anyone had anticipated," Powell said.

He added that he had favored a larger military presence to deal with unforeseen events.

Powell said he had given the advice to General Tommy Franks, now retired, who developed and executed the invasion plan. He said he had also given his views to Rumsfeld, while the president was present.

''I made the case . . . that I was not sure we had enough troops," Powell said. Powell added that the military leaders had said they had the appropriate number of soldiers.

Powell made his comments amid concern about the increase in military deaths in Iraq, which has been a factor in driving Bush's approval ratings to the lowest of his presidency.

Rice, who appeared on several news shows yesterday, was responding to Powell comments that fanned the controversy over the administration's plans for the invasion's immediate aftermath. Critics have said that violence and looting set the stage for the insurgency over the past three years.

Asked on CNN's ''Late Edition" if she remembered Powell's dissent, Rice said: ''I don't remember specifically what Secretary Powell may be referring to, but I'm quite certain that there were lots of discussions about how best to fulfill the mission when we went into Iraq."

Rice said that Bush had relied on his military advisers, and that he had ''asked time and time again" whether everything needed to execute the plan was available, ''and he was told: 'Yes.' "

On CBS's ''Face the Nation," Rice said: ''I'm quite certain that there are things that, in retrospect, we would do differently. But that's the nature of any big, complicated operation."

After the invasion, Rumsfeld said, US military commanders said they believed that there were sufficient troops to contain insurgents and to establish peace, even as elections approached.

However, troop levels were later increased amid escalating violence, and to establish security in time for elections.

Bush has not set a timetable for a US withdrawal. He has said that US soldiers will pull out as Iraqi forces take over the fight against rebels.

Rice praised progress made by Iraq's forces. But to start withdrawing troops, she said on CNN: ''We really do want it to be based on conditions on the ground."

''If there is anything that they recognize, it's that they are not quite ready for these tasks. But they want to take that responsibility," Rice said.
Source
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revel
 
  1  
Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 05:44 am
Since Rice has two or three times mentioned that mistakes were made, I would someone would ask the question, "what were they" since she turns around and defends every decision they made.
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revel
 
  1  
Reply Mon 1 May, 2006 06:29 am
(Un)Happy anniversary

http://mediamatters.org/static/images/home/bush-20060428.jpg



Mission Accomplished: A look back at the media's fawning coverage of Bush's premature declaration of victory in Iraq
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