Afghanistan is erukpting and I can't get anyone interesdted. I put up a thread and there have been no responses.
Why do you think that is?
Ancient archaeological sites in Iraq destroyed deliberately by US military.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article357807.ece
sumac wrote:Afghanistan is erukpting and I can't get anyone interesdted. I put up a thread and there have been no responses.
Why do you think that is?
We (Brits) are sending more troops to Afghanistan but despite that, most of the news we get is from Iraq.
The situation in Afg seems to be worsening...the warlords have never relinquished their grip, they have just been lying low. Opium poppy production there has increased enormously in two years (the Taliban did not permit it, I believe)
BBB
Even the Taliban is slowly moving back into Afghanistan.
Sadly, we are so overwhelmed by the war in Iraq that Afghanistan is slowly reverting to what it was.
The Bush cabal never understood these tribal societies or their cultures.
BBB
McTag,
I was aware if what happened in Babylon, and elsewhere, and it is criminal. No need for it, and lots of reasons NOT to do it. Horrendous.
McTag and BBB,
The US is pulling out, and NATO is taking over. Tribal war lords, various insurgents, Taliban, gaining in strength, and becoming much more active.
Central government is impotent outside of the capital.
The place is going to explode. Meanwhile, the Taliban is killing children in school.
Yeah, since we handed control over to the UN, Afghanistan has gone to hell.
McGentrix wrote:Yeah, since we handed control over to the UN, Afghanistan has gone to hell.
The International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) actually is complitely a NATO force. But since they do their jon under a UN mandate, it's of the UN who made that "Afghanistan has gone to hell".
Sometimes, I think, some are heavily blockheaded.
Dense, Walter.
NATO, not UN, McGentrix. Prior to that, US and NATO.
BBB
Those who know Afghanistan's history and culture are not surprised at the return to normal. The only thing that can change is to keep the Taliban from returning and only the Afghanis can prevent that.
BBB
sumac wrote:Dense, Walter.
Sorry, yes, you are correct:
McGentrix wrote:Yeah, since we handed control over to the UN, Afghanistan has gone to hell.
I fear for the Afghanis. We, and the Russians, destroyed them so badly, and backed the wrong sides, for so long. Then the Taliban. And even before all of this chaos, the tribal warlords and poppy trade. None of this is conducive to the populace thinking that they can do anything to alter their existence. And the drought.
Walter,
Don't be sorry. Dense is just a more understood word than blockheaded.
sumac wrote:Walter,
Don't be sorry. Dense is just a more understood word than blockheaded.
I know. But I'm really a bit upset about people posting re a subjext ... and actually not knowing even the most recent history of that.
Such info is available for free on the internet!
I know. I am more than a little upset about this - both here, and in society in general.
Walter Hinteler wrote:sumac wrote:Walter,
Don't be sorry. Dense is just a more understood word than blockheaded.
I know. But I'm really a bit upset about people posting re a subjext ... and actually not knowing even the most recent history of that.
Such info is available for free on the internet!
What's your issue, Walter?
I thought the UN did not have its own military and is therefore always compelled to obtain troops volunteered by nation states or organizations of nation states (e.g., NATO).
So why isn't it correct to say that the UN utilizing NATO troops in Afghanistan is blundering in Afghanistan?
Had I known Walter was going to throw a conniption fit over the term "UN", I would have said NATO. But, I suspect someone else would have been equally upset.
Quote:NATO took command and co-ordination of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in August 2003. ISAF is NATO's first mission outside the Euro-Atlantic area. ISAF operates in Afghanistan under a UN mandate and will continue to operate according to current and future UN Security Council (UNSC) resolutions. ISAF's mission was initially limited to Kabul. Resolution 1510 passed by the UNSC on 13 October 2003 opened the way to a wider role for ISAF to support the Government of Afghanistan beyond Kabul.
link
I think sometimes people just get upset that I posted in general. Deal with it people.
From the beginning, the president of Afghanistan only had 'control' of small amount of it's country because we diverted our resources to Iraq. If NATO is failing it is our fault for not completing the job in the first place.
US firms suspected of bilking Iraq funds
Millions missing from program for rebuilding
Quote:WASHINGTON -- American contractors swindled hundreds of millions of dollars in Iraqi funds, but so far there is no way for Iraq's government to recoup the money, according to US investigators and civil attorneys tracking fraud claims against contractors.
Courts in the United States are beginning to force contractors to repay reconstruction funds stolen from the American government. But legal roadblocks have prevented Iraq from recovering funds that were seized from the Iraqi government by the US-led coalition and then paid to contractors who failed to do the work.
A US law that allows citizens to recover money from dishonest contractors protects only the US government, not foreign governments.
In addition, an Iraqi law created by the Coalition Provisional Authority days before it ceded sovereignty to Iraq in June 2004 gives American contractors immunity from prosecution in Iraq.
''In effect, it makes Iraq into a 'free-fraud zone,' " said Alan Grayson, a Virginia attorney who is suing the private security firm Custer Battles in a whistle-blower lawsuit filed by former employees. A federal jury last month found the Rhode Island-based company liable for $3 million in fraudulent billings in Iraq.
Even the United Nations panel set up to monitor the use of Iraq's seized assets has no power to prosecute wrongdoers.
''The Iraqi people are out of luck, the way it stands right now," said Patrick Burns, spokesman for Taxpayers Against Fraud, a watchdog group that helps US citizens file cases such as the Custer Battles action.
Iraqi leaders, paralyzed by political deadlock in forming a new government, have so far made no formal complaint about funds that were paid out to dishonest contractors. But US officials say the need for Iraq to recoup the stolen money has become more urgent as it faces a budget shortfall of billions of dollars.
We are a sleazy bunch of lemon used car salesmen.
I should have separated the post as the link was unrelated to my comments.
oh well, to all concerned, happy easter
The civil war in Iraq is now affecting the Sunnis and Shia in Balrane(sp). The US army is now unable to reduce the civil war going on in Iraq, and the only thing they are doing is creating more enemies by killing family members in Iraq. It´s a loss-loss situation in Iraq that will only get worse, and never better. It is now spreading to other countries where Sunnis and Shia used to get along. No longer. Bush did more damage than he realizes.
I don't know CI, Iran (Shiite) has just pledged $50 million to Hamas (Sunnis).
Iran to Give Palestinian Authority $50M
