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THE US, THE UN AND IRAQ, TENTH THREAD.

 
 
Amigo
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 05:32 pm
If we, America, Wants to see some real blowback (search blowback) then just wait till the world finds out our special forces/CIA are trainig death squads in Iraq.

If it's happening. I prey it isn't.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 05:43 pm
Hay, Amigo! Those death squads are not interrogation squads.

Death squads seem to have worked by exterminating Salvadoran mass murderers ... oops ... rebels, or as some heuphemistically call 'em today, insurgents.

In the olden days we use to call death squads commandos. They worked in the olden days too! Shocked

"A rose is a rose is a rose.!" So is a malignancy!
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old europe
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 05:46 pm
ican711nm wrote:
If our goal is getting these fanatics to completely abandon their repeatedly stated goals, then the only thing that will ultimately get these fanatics to completely abandon their repeatedly stated goals, is to exterminate them.


You sound a wee bit hysterical.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 05:47 pm
Lightwizard wrote:
LIEbral. How quaint. And stupid.


LIEbrals are neither quaint nor stupid! But they are distructive. Sad
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 05:49 pm
old europe wrote:
ican711nm wrote:
If our goal is getting these fanatics to completely abandon their repeatedly stated goals, then the only thing that will ultimately get these fanatics to completely abandon their repeatedly stated goals, is to exterminate them.


You sound a wee bit hysterical.
Laughing Is that anything like a wee bit pregnant?

Or do you think you know a better way Question Rolling Eyes
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 05:59 pm
Ican, Death squads and commandos are totally different things. I am out of your league. I've been studying this type of thing since I was a teenager. You are totally out of touch with our governments motives, methods and hidden history.

Knowing these things don't make you a bad American. They just make you a more knowledgable American. A knowledgable American is a good American.

I've alresdy seen you dispute things that are well established facts.

I'm not talking to you anymore because you won't believe anything I say and you secretly don't want to know.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 06:00 pm
Amigo wrote:
If we, America, Wants to see some real blowback (search blowback) then just wait till the world finds out our special forces/CIA are trainig death squads in Iraq.

If it's happening. I prey it isn't.


Will it make you feel better if we agree to call commandos, err ... death squads, err ... coalition forces, err ... counter insurgents, err ... ... defenders? Yeah, that's it! Let's call 'em defenders Exclamation

Your apparent compassion for mass murderers is astonishing. Shall we invite them to a Sunday brunch instead? Rolling Eyes
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 06:18 pm
You just don't know what the hell your talking about. Your a rookie. Ignorance is perhaps mans greatest enemy.

Let me guess, you have me all figured out.I am a communist, whacko conspiracy theory, traitor that that thinks bin ladin is a hero. I also secretly want more of our troops to die.

Compassion for mass murderers?

Please don't talk to me anymore and I won't talk to you.Please.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 06:29 pm
I like deconstructervative much better.
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old europe
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 07:03 pm
ican711nm wrote:
old europe wrote:
ican711nm wrote:
If our goal is getting these fanatics to completely abandon their repeatedly stated goals, then the only thing that will ultimately get these fanatics to completely abandon their repeatedly stated goals, is to exterminate them.


You sound a wee bit hysterical.
Laughing Is that anything like a wee bit pregnant?

Or do you think you know a better way Question Rolling Eyes


Darn. Got me. Okay.

Ican, you sound hysterical. Better?
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 07:09 pm
Hey, look who got invited to brunch!!!

Back in Houston, the Taliban was learning how the "other half lives," and according to The Telegraph, "stayed in a five-star hotel and were chauffeured in a company minibus." The Taliban representatives "...were amazed by the luxurious homes of Texan oil barons. Invited to dinner at the palatial home of Martin Miller, a vice-president of Unocal, they marveled at his swimming pool, views of the golf course and six bathrooms." Mr. Miller, said he hoped that UNOCAL had clinched the deal.

Dick Cheney was then CEO of Haliburton Corporation, a pipeline services vendor based in Texas. Gushed Cheney in 1998, "I can't think of a time when we've had a region emerge as suddenly to become as strategically significant as the Caspian. It's almost as if the opportunities have arisen overnight. The good Lord didn't see fit to put oil and gas only where there are democratically elected regimes friendly to the United States. Occasionally we have to operate in places where, all things considered, one would not normally choose to go. But we go where the business is." Would Cheney bargain with the harborers of U.S. troop killers if that's where the business was?
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 07:18 pm
Amigo wrote:
Ican, Death squads and commandos are totally different things. I am out of your league. I've been studying this type of thing since I was a teenager. You are totally out of touch with our governments motives, methods and hidden history.
Perhaps you have been studying invalid sources. The best clue to that possibility is your persistent failure to describe what you think is a better alternative to what you criticize. When I was a young lad during WWII, I witnessed and studied directly -- and not indirectly via someone else's interpretation of events -- the techniques of lying propagandists. A common trait was that they did not analyze alternatives to what they were criticizing, or even explain why they thought what they thought, but instead focused only on criticizing that which they wished to criticize. You may be a current day victim of such people.

Knowing these things don't make you a bad American. They just make you a more knowledgable American. A knowledgable American is a good American.
I've thought nothing and written nothing about what kind of American you are, so why did you bring this up? All I have done is either disagree with what you have alleged to be true and explained why I disagree, or I have asked you for facts, comparisons, or examples to support your allegations.

I've alresdy seen you dispute things that are well established facts.
How about an example or two? The problem maybe that what you consider to be "well established facts," I think are demonstrable falsities.

I'm not talking to you anymore because you won't believe anything I say and you secretly don't want to know.
Please be aware that anytime anyone with whom I'm debating resorts to personal attacks (i.e., ad hominem), I'm inclined to interpret that as capitulation. Make no mistake about it. I want to know why you think what you think. I am not satisfied with merely knowing what you think.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 07:33 pm
Amigo wrote:
Hey, look who got invited to brunch!!!

Back in Houston, the Taliban was learning how the "other half lives," and according to The Telegraph, "stayed in a five-star hotel and were chauffeured in a company minibus."
Apparently being invited to brunch in 1998 didn't work in 2001.
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Would Cheney bargain with the harborers of U.S. troop killers if that's where the business was?
Were the Taliban harborers of US troop killers back in 1998? Answer: Yes! Our government in 1998 hadn't decided the Taliban were harborers of US troop killers. That decision wasn't made until 2001. Something called 9/11 may have motivated that decision at that time. I bet Chenney, if he still headed Halliburton in 2001, would not have bargained with the Taliban after 9/11.
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 07:39 pm
Amigo wrote:
You just don't know what the hell your talking about. Your a rookie. Ignorance is perhaps mans greatest enemy.

Let me guess, you have me all figured out.I am a communist, whacko conspiracy theory, traitor that that thinks bin ladin is a hero. I also secretly want more of our troops to die.

Compassion for mass murderers?

Please don't talk to me anymore and I won't talk to you.Please.

What did I post that makes you think I think any of these things? In other words, why do you think such bunkum slop?
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 07:43 pm
old europe wrote:

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Ican, you sound hysterical. Better?

No, just clearer.
Why do you think so?
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 07:47 pm
does ican think his fancy script contributes anything worthwhile to this thread ?
just shouting louder does not make an argument any better . just some free advice. hbg
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 08:10 pm
hamburger wrote:
does ican think his fancy script contributes anything worthwhile to this thread ?
just shouting louder does not make an argument any better . just some free advice. hbg

No! Ican doesn't think that. As ican has repeatedly stated in many of this series of threads, ican does think that posting something he thinks is important, deserves emphasis when others here seem to have missed his point. Perhaps ican should have previously emphasized this point too.

So this by ican is a kind of emphasis:
If our goal is getting these fanatics to completely abandon their repeatedly stated goals, then the only thing that will ultimately get these fanatics to completely abandon their repeatedly stated goals, is to exterminate them.

But this by ican is a kind of shouting:
If our goal is getting these fanatics to completely abandon their repeatedly stated goals, then the only thing that will ultimately get these fanatics to completely abandon their repeatedly stated goals, is to exterminate them.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 08:15 pm
So, what's the US' tally of Iraqis it's mass murdered, er, collaterally damaged, so far in it's adventure there?
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hamburger
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 08:19 pm
ican : my eyesight isn't really that bad, using my glasses i can still see perfectly well .
you may call it 'emphasis' ; it still does not give your argument any more validity than one in normal script - i'm sure you know that.
i can see that someone may want to highlight a word on occasion , but fancy footwork does not impress .
no offence meant , just my opinion . hbg
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ican711nm
 
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Reply Sat 18 Feb, 2006 08:32 pm
InfraBlue wrote:
So, what's the US' tally of Iraqis it's mass murdered, er, collaterally damaged, so far in it's adventure there?

My source
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/database/
provides only the max and min number of Iraqi civilians killed. It doesn't distinguish between those murdered by Saddanists & al-Qaeda et al and those killed by the Coalition.

Maximum total murdered or killed as of 12/31/2005 since 1/1/2003 was at that time said by my source to be 31,319.
As of 1/31/2006 that number was 31,928.
As of 2/10/2006 that number is 32,041.
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