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The downfall of America's society... what is the cause?

 
 
Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:20 am
Right you are echi,
Nostalgia wears rose colored glasses.
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Treya
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:24 am
Re: The downfall of America's society... what is the cause?
PoetSeductress wrote:
hephzibah wrote:
mesquite wrote:
Momma Angel wrote:
echi,

Well, I for one believe America is in moral decline and quite honestly cannot understand how someone would think we aren't.

Mass murders, school shootings, paedophiles, serial killers, etc. Kids killing their parents. Everyone wanting to do what they want to do. The, "it's right for me" mentality is destroying this world IMO.


It looks like MA is spouting the same old sky is falling scenerio with once again no stats to back it up. She makes it seem as though greed, mass murders and paedophiles are a new phenomonen.

What is worth noting though is that 50 years ago a large portion of the U.S. was segregated. 50 years before that, women were thought too stupid to be allowed to vote. 50 years before that, blacks were bought and sold and treated like cattle.


Once again there's a vulture circling overhead, looking for some easy prey...

I guess they saw the jackal lurking in the bushes...

hmmm...


Perfect prose, I must say.


Why... Thank you Poet! Very Happy
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PoetSeductress
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:28 am
The downfall of America's society... what is the cause?
hephzibah wrote:
Me too echi. There was a certain innocence about that time of our lives. I miss it too sometimes.


Hephzibah, I refuse to lose my inner innocence. Even though I've been around quite a bit, I've never lost the inner "me". I made a promise to myself early on, that I would never allow it to happen, no matter how much hardship and heartache happened. It was a CONSCIOUS, determined decision.

I have to admit there were times that the world almost zapped it down. It was hanging by a very worn and thin thread. But at what seemed to be at my lowest point, I pulled myself up, mustered all the inner strenth I could, and carefully wove that string with other strings, until I had a strong cloth of inner support, again. It took about 10 years to do it, and I'm almost back as my true self, again. Give me about 4-6 more months, and I will be.

I refuse to let negativity steal my soul.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:29 am
Mesquite Wrote:

Quote:
It looks like MA is spouting the same old sky is falling scenerio with once again no stats to back it up. She makes it seem as though greed, mass murders and paedophiles are a new phenomonen.

What is worth noting though is that 50 years ago a large portion of the U.S. was segregated. 50 years before that, women were thought too stupid to be allowed to vote. 50 years before that, blacks were bought and sold and treated like cattle.


Mesquite, it's true that the end of segregation and women getting to vote was a plus for the country. I have never denied that. But, it doesn't negate the fact that we are in a moral decline. I am looking for some more info on this to get more updated statistics but I found this site pretty interesting. :wink:

http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdate&BarnaUpdateID=152
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PoetSeductress
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:32 am
The downfall of America's society... what is the cause?
JLNobody wrote:
Me, gay? Hail no.
Seriously, I was having breakfast in a restaurant with a male friend the other morning. As we got up to leave, I said I have make a rest room stop. He said he did too. As we two men walked toward the restroom, he asked me in earshot of a bunch of elderly people, "Have you seen Brokeback Mountain?" My answer was a macho-intoned "Hail no."
G'night again.


I didn't think so. Have a good evening, JL. Smile
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PoetSeductress
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:35 am
Re: The downfall of America's society... what is the cause?
Chumly wrote:
hephzibah wrote:
The downfall of America's society... what is the cause?
This downfall of America's society, what past period of America's society are you holding up as superior? Why do you consider it superior?

You cannot have a "downfall of America's society" unless there was a period of time in which America's society was superior.

I am not convinced there was an overall superior past period.


That's too bad. ("Don't know much about history, don't know much biology, don't know much about science books, don't know much about the French I took..." That leftie Liberal public schooling will do it to you everytime.)
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echi
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:35 am
"As God as my witness... I will never be hungry again!"
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Treya
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:35 am
Re: The downfall of America's society... what is the cause?
PoetSeductress wrote:
hephzibah wrote:
Me too echi. There was a certain innocence about that time of our lives. I miss it too sometimes.


Hephzibah, I refuse to lose my inner innocence. Even though I've been around quite a bit, I've never lost the inner "me". I made a promise to myself early on, that I would never allow it to happen, no matter how much hardship and heartache happened. It was a CONSCIOUS, determined decision.

I have to admit there were times that the world almost zapped it down. It was hanging by a very worn and thin thread. But at what seemed to be at my lowest point, I pulled myself up, mustered all the inner strenth I could, and carefully wove that string with other strings, until I had a strong cloth of inner support, again. It took about 10 years to do it, and I'm almost back as my true self, again. Give me about 4-6 more months, and I will be.

I refuse to let negativity steal my soul.


I'm watching my threads snap...

one...

by...

one...

Wondering exactly where I'm going to fall to. I've already been to hell a few times in my life. I still have some of the scars to prove it. I'm not thrilled about the concept of going back to be honest... however some days I feel powerless to do anything but watch what I was disappear into the unknown...
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:41 am
The virtual murder and extinction of an entire nation amassing millions and million of Native Americans makes today's transgressions pall in comparison. Let's throw in black slavery, the persecution and murder of American homosexuals, the persecution of American Jews.

Both Black slavery and the Native American's mass murder were often endorsed by conservative Christians of the day.

Hep says Chumly is blind, Chumly says I don't wear rose colored glasses.
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PoetSeductress
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:42 am
The downfall of America's society... what is the cause?
Chumly wrote:
hephzibah wrote:
No offense chumly... LOL but you are so blind sometimes. I still think you are cool though. :wink:
Seeing not as you but seeing all the same.


Maybe he just needs some tutoring, hephzibah.

I'm NOT available, but maybe you can teach him a thing or two after school. Give him a little "learning'" and show him what real education is all about. Judging from his naive posts, he has a lot to catch up on, even though it's obvious he's experienced in the women's dormatory.
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Treya
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:43 am
LO... friggin... L!
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PoetSeductress
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:44 am
The downfall of America's society... what is the cause?
echi wrote:
"As God as my witness... I will never be hungry again!"


Are you on a diet, echi??
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echi
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:46 am
Chumly--

You are not looking at this from the perspective of a white, male, property-owning Christian, though. I think that's your problem.
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echi
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:47 am
No, PoetS. I was making fun of you. Very Happy
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Treya
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:48 am
SAY WHAT ECHI?

Last I checked I wasn't a white, male, property-owning Christian... or a white, female, property-owning Christian...
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PoetSeductress
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:51 am
Re: The downfall of America's society... what is the cause?
hephzibah wrote:
PoetSeductress wrote:
hephzibah wrote:
Me too echi. There was a certain innocence about that time of our lives. I miss it too sometimes.


Hephzibah, I refuse to lose my inner innocence. Even though I've been around quite a bit, I've never lost the inner "me". I made a promise to myself early on, that I would never allow it to happen, no matter how much hardship and heartache happened. It was a CONSCIOUS, determined decision.

I have to admit there were times that the world almost zapped it down. It was hanging by a very worn and thin thread. But at what seemed to be at my lowest point, I pulled myself up, mustered all the inner strenth I could, and carefully wove that string with other strings, until I had a strong cloth of inner support, again. It took about 10 years to do it, and I'm almost back as my true self, again. Give me about 4-6 more months, and I will be.

I refuse to let negativity steal my soul.


I'm watching my threads snap...

one...

by...

one...

Wondering exactly where I'm going to fall to. I've already been to hell a few times in my life. I still have some of the scars to prove it. I'm not thrilled about the concept of going back to be honest... however some days I feel powerless to do anything but watch what I was disappear into the unknown...


No, hephzibah, please don't say that. You still have the real hephzibah. All you have to do is be aware of her more often, and imagine yourself as such. There are ways to win. Don't give in. Don't fall asleep and transform into *them* (the purple people eaters Cool ).

You can do it!
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echi
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:52 am
Then why you lookin at it from they perspective? Shoot. Your people couldn't even buy a house forty years ago. Woman!
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:52 am
Chumly,

I don't think anyone is discounting the things you are saying. They did happen. But, I'm not so sure you can equate those incidents to everyday life.

How many serial killers did you know of in the '50s or 60s or even the 70s? How many school shootings? The shock value is worn off so quickly anymore it isn't funny. Society has just become used to it.

Remember the days when you could leave your door unlocked at night? You didn't have to have an alarm system on your car? How many children went missing back some 20, 30 or 40 years ago?
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Chumly
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:54 am
Sometimes the best thing is a peanut butter and jelly sandwich on homemade bread and taking my Chow for a quick walk. Then I am sure all mysteries of the world will unfold Smile
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Treya
 
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Reply Fri 17 Feb, 2006 12:55 am
echi wrote:
Then why you lookin at it from they perspective? Shoot. Your people couldn't even buy a house forty years ago. Woman!


I am echi? Are you sure about this... this could definately be news to me...


bing....


There goes another thread...

LOL Just kidding... I shouldn't joke about that probably...
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