christian bashing on t.v.

Quotes please? I remember Momma Angel saying that if the show airs as described, she would find it offensive. I don't remember her saying that she wanted the show of the air. Maybe I misremember. But my point is this: Momma Angel either did or did not attempt a censor, and if she did, the people accusing her of it should back it up with specific quotes.

Thank you, Thomas.

Ok, I misunderstood you.

What do you want the channel airing the show to do if the premise is correct?

This is a point dlowan keeps bringing up and it seems to get lost in the shuffle.

As an example, both Momma A and myself are animal lovers, and I think she feels pretty strongly about it, as do I. In my opinion, we as a whole, that is all countries, all societies, treat animals very badly, take their welfare lightly, even treat abuse of them as a matter for jokes. My sensibilities in this area are offended CONSTANTLY by things on television. Fear Factor grinds up rats and has people drink them, for heaven's sake. I've seen a fish being eaten alive as it still gasped and struggled on television. I was even offended by the big fight-with-the-dog scene in There's Something About Mary! These things bother me, I think they're wrong. So what do I do? I rarely watch tv. I turn off a show if it bothers me. If I have kids, I won't have a tv in the house.

I don't try to make other people believe me that it's wrong-- I just live my life the way I feel best. Momma says she knows it hurts God to see jokes about him. I know it hurts animals to be abused. But we can't make others do what we want, and it's a damn good thing we can't, because that would just as likely be used against our beliefs. That's the danger in censorship-- it's not necessarily going to be you that gets to do the censoring. :wink: I understand how you feel, Momma, but you must see that we can't tell other people what they can and can't watch because we know it's wrong. What if they tell you they know it's wrong for there to be preachers on tv praying?

Not many people agree with me about animal rights, Momma, you have many more on your side about your religion. But I can still stand to have jokes made about "PETA types" and I can joke back, even though it is a serious thing to me that involves the real pain of living beings, as this issue to you involves the pain of your God. We can't control others, we can't make our beliefs the rule for others.

cyphercat,

Agreed. But, since I feel God is the authority, superior everything, of course, it's going to bother me. I understand I can't make others stop making the jokes. But, I will never engage in those jokes myself. That, to me, approves of it. I will do what I fel is right at the time, I guess. And you let me at anybody you catch hurting an animal!

If the premise is correct, dlowan, I won't watch the show. That is the biggest weapon I have against a TV show, to not watch it.

MA, as you may recall, this shemozzle started when a thread was posted giving a place people could write to and demand the show never be aired.

Will you include yourself in that demand if the show is what it has been portrayed to be?


If you just want to moan, go ahead.

I think you are utterly ignorant (wilfully?) of the myriad ways in which other groups are satirised and such (hell, I could moan forever about the Australian "Boot" episode of the Simpsons) and have extreme christian tunnel vision, but I won't bother to censure you mor efor moaning.

But perhaps I missed something-- if the discussion isn't about whether or not the show should air. If we're just talking about whether the show jokes about God, and whether that's okay, I apologize for going off topic. I thought the suggestion had been made that it shouldn't be allowed to air.

Oh well, fair enough.

Apologies for misunderstanding you.


I still think you're nuts, but you thjink I am too, so we're even!

dlowan,

I just went back and read dys' original post on this thread. Didn't see a single thing about writing anybody about not airing anything.

From what dys posted, it sounded to me like he was inviting discussion about the show. Which, I thought, is all I was doing.

I appreciate the apology. But, I don't think you are nuts at all.

There is a petition/demand thingy place wher epeople can go to demand that it not be aired.

This thread, as I recall it, is an offshoot of a thread that posted about that.


I think a number of us hace, because of the original thread, assumed that MA supports that action.

I recalled her saying she had written to the network, and made what I now realise is an assumptive leap....

Oh well, we can all agree that turning off a tv show is prolly never a bad idea.

Yep, as I said, the original thread DID mention people trying to shut the show down.


I think this is where the confusion began.

dlowan,

It's not a problem, honestly. I didn't know anything about the other thread though. And, I wouldn't go there now for anything. :wink:

Oh bog, I DO Hope this doesn't mean some of us have to have a group hug, or anything awful like that?



Anyone squeezes me, I am releasing a biological weapon, I warn you.

Ah Thomas.

A shining beacon of rationality as ever.











































Smeg, I hate that damned man......

DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT TOUCH THE BUNNY!

I touch the bunny anywheres I please.

No you don't.

I'm offended by bunny-touching.

I'm offended by rejection.