How Should a Christian Act?

queen annie would you condiser yourself an Evangelical Christian?

Love. There is no law against it.

I would like to say that I indeed passed some judgements on myself and others in these forums. I am sorry for doing so.

I will not pretend to know what is in a person's heart any longer.

I know what has been in my own heart at times and needless to say.....am in dire need of a new, clean heart.

Love is patient, love is kind, and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails. (1Cor 13:4-8,

No example of Love is greater than Jesus Christ who died for me.

yes Bartikus

amen

bollocks

I'm not sure what that means, exactly...

I don't even consider myself a 'christian,' not because of anything to do with Christ or what I believe...

I avoid labels. It's a long story.

And I'm definitely not hip to what 'evangelical' means. Is is something to do with the idea of being a 'herald?'

Christians back to Jerusalem after six year absence.

queen annie,

Right now, I don't have the time that this conversation deserves because of cooking holiday dinner and all.

I thought I had read in another post of yours that you thought Christ was a prophet. Obviously, I didn't read it correctly or it was someone's words. So, I will definitely get back to this either late tomorrow or Monday.

I am enjoying our conversation immensely.

Merry Christmas everyone!

How should a Christian act?

How about.....like Christ?

Not even Jesus took the credit for his works.

Luke 12:
49. I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? (Words of an arsonist, certainly not a peacemaker!)
50. Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: (Jesus denies that he is a peacemaker!)
51. For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. (Jesus divides people)

Matthew 10:4
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace on earth, but a sword.


Jesus was NOT the Prince of Peace but an angry man.


Luke 12:53
The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, the daughter against the mother; the mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law. and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. (Fifth Commandment!?)

Matthew 10:37
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. (Jesus preached to "dishonor" filial relationship!)

Exodus 20:12
Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. (Fifth of the Ten Commandments.)

Matthew 4:
17. Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. (Strange way of fulfilling a law by preaching to break it! Another case of two-faced hypocrisy?)
18. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus contradicted himself with his own words here. He was teaching to break one of the BIG laws, none other than the Ten Commandments. One can only infer that Jesus by his own words would not be called "great" in the "kingdom of heaven".

From Jesus' comments he appeared to be a politician saying different things to different groups to cobble together a coalition.

Bartikus,

So well said!

Talk,

He was the Prince of Peace. The division comes from the different understandings of His message. The division comes in when people decide that their "truth" is the only "truth". The only truth is His truth.

John 15:1-27(KJV)
I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman (farmer). 2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. 3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. 4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. 5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

Does the farmer need to make 'peace' with that which threatens the whole crop?

Or does that which stands against the will of the farmer need to submit and be grafted into the vine?

Jesus Christ is the prince of peace......peace can only be established by God's terms.

The understanding of a reader.

You would see something completely different under different circumstances.

No law was Big once He was born.

I hear you. I have been doing much the same.


I did say that. I did not say 'Christ was just a prophet.' 'Just' or 'merely' can not apply to such a man just as they cannot apply to God.
Saying Christ was a prophet isn't saying He was only a prophet. A prophet is one that 'bubbles forth' with words given by God. Christ Himself made it clear He was a prophet. Not the only prophet, and not only a prophet.
Moses spoke of Him as prophet, and so did Stephen. Before and after.
The spirit of prophecy is the testimony of Jesus Christ--and the testimony is the witness--the two required witnesses being Christ and the Father.

Your memory is quite good, but perhaps you are hearing my words from your own point of understanding, instead of my own. Don't take that as anything harsh, because I don't mean it any other way but just something to consider.

Me, too!


Ditto!

Queen Annie,

I am going to go back and read that other post again. Perhaps I did read it a different way in which you intended. Well, obviously I did. I have not taken anything you have said as harsh. Quite the contrary, You are very clear and understanding without being uncivil in any way.

Can't wait till we can really get back into this.

The question really is.......

Does one really seek to make peace with God on his terms?

If one truly does......you can through the vine and only in him.

Jesus Christ

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16

I am no greater or no more worthy than any other man.

Jesus is.

A Devotional for Christmas Time
Merry, marry, Mary. These three words have very different meanings but they are all pronounced the same way. We might all be saying "Merry Christmas," but we each have our own interpretation of what the holiday means to us.
Maybe your season is filled with parties and friends and gifts. Are you caught up in the spirit of giving, or of receiving? Make sure you take time to share your blessings with someone less fortunate. Take food to a homeless shelter, or donate your time to a charity. Give money or a gift to a poor family. Then you will experience real joy, for "it is more blessed to give than to receive."

When you shop, buy an extra treat and give it to someone you know, but do it anonymously. (This is true giving, when you give in secret and only the father in heaven sees you.) Take five minutes from your busy schedule and do something nice for someone else. Carry packages to their car. Walk their dog. Run an errand for them.

"By this they shall know you are my disciples, if you have love for one another." Surprise someone you haven't seen in a while with a letter or a phone call. Go with a group and visit someone who is alone. It only takes a few minutes, but the memory lasts a long time. If you keep all the presents for yourself, "and have not charity," it's nothing.

When you say, "Merry Christmas," give it a special meaning this year. However you 'say' it, let your actions speak louder than your words...and enjoy a blessing from heaven. Isn't that the real Christmas story?

All baloney.

Jesus is no messaiah but Lucifer.

Reference: King James Version

Isaiah 14:
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart,
a) I will ascend into heaven,
b) I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:
c) I will sit also upon the mount of the Congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 d)I will ascend above the heights of the clouds:
e)I will be like the most High.


COMPARISON:

OLD TESTAMENT
1) Isaiah 14:12
How art thou fallen from heaven
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
(Note: Lucifer is Latin for bright.)

NEW TESTAMENT
Revelation 22:16
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. (How arrogant, naming himself after such a lustrous heavenly body!)

OLD TESTAMENT
2) Isaiah 14:13 I will ascend into heaven


NEW TESTAMENT
Luke 24:51
And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven. Mark 16:19
So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

OLD TESTAMENT
3) Isaiah 14:13
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God:

The stars of God are the Israelites. (See Numbers 24:17 "...there shall come a Star out of Jacob,...")

Genesis 15:5
And he brought him forth abroad, and said,
Look now towards heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him,
So shall thy seed be.

Deuteronomy 10:22
Thy fathers went down into Egypt with threescore and ten persons, and now the LORD thy God hath made thee as the stars of heaven for multitude.

NEW TESTAMENT
Matthew 19:28
And Jesus said unto them,
Verily I say unto you,
That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his the glory, ye also shall sit upon thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

OLD TESTAMENT
4) Isaiah 14:13
I will sit also upon the mount of the Congregation, in the sides of the north.
[Note:
a) Mt. Ophel, just south of the Temple Mount, has been identified as Mt. Zion. Jesus as a child sat in the Temple.
b) Location of the Last Supper is just north of (Mt. Zion?)]

Psalm 48:2
Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.

NEW TESTAMENT
Luke 2:46
And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions.

Matthew 26:20
Now when the even was come, he sat down with the twelve.

Luke 22:14
And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him.

5) Isaiah 14:14
I will be like the most High.

God says He is the first and the last in the following passages:-

OLD TESTAMENT
Isaiah 41:4
Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he.

Isaiah 44:6
Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of Hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

NEW TESTAMENT
Jesus says that he is the first and the last in the following passages:-

Revelation 1:11
Saying, I am the Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and untoLaodicea.

Revelation 1:17
And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

Revelation 22:13
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

God's garments are sprinkled with blood in the following passage:-

OLD TESTAMENT
Isaiah 63:3
I have trodden the wine press alone; and of the people there was none with me: for I will tread them in mine anger, and trample them in my fury; and their blood shall be sprinkled upon my garments, and I will stain all my raiment.

Jesus' garment is dipped in blood in the following passage:-

NEW TESTAMENT
Revelation 19:13
And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

OLD TESTAMENT
In Isaiah, new heavens and new earth are mentioned in the following passage:-

Isaiah 66:22
For as the new heavens and new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

NEW TESTAMENT
In Revelation, a new heaven and a new earth are mentioned in the following passage:-

Revelation 21:1
And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away: and there was no more sea.

OLD TESTAMENT
God is the bridegroom of His people in the following:-

Isaiah 62:5
For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.

NEW TESTAMENT
Jesus is the bridegroom of his followers in the following:-

Matthew 9:15
And Jesus said unto them, Can the chilren of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and shall they fast.

Mark 2:19.
And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast.
20. But the days will come, while the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.

Luke 5:34.
And he said unto them, Can ye make the children of the bridegroom fast, while the bridegroom is with them?
35. But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.

Revelation 19:7.
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
9. And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

Revelation 20:9.
And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife.

Isaiah 14:19
"But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch,..."
Note: The image of Jesus on the cross confirms it for there is no gravesite of him.

Jesus fits the descriptions of Lucifer almost to a T.
So is Jesus God or Lucifer?

There once was a devoted priest who wished to see both heaven and hell, and God gave way to his pleading.

The priest found himself before a door which bore no name. He trembled as he saw it open before him into a large room where all was prepared for a feast. There was a table, and at its centre a great dish of steaming food. The smell and the aroma inflamed the appetite.

Diners sat around the table with great spoons in their hands, yet they were shrieking with hunger in that terrible place. They tried to feed themselves, and gave up, cursing God, for the spoons that God had provided were so long that they could not reach their faces and get the food to their tongues. So they starved, while their dish of plenty lay amongst them. The priest knew their screams were the cries of hell, and as this understanding came, the door closed before him.

He shut his eyes in prayer and begged God to take him away from that terrible place. When he opened them again, he despaired, for the same door stood before him, the door that bore no name. Again it opened, and it gave onto the same room. Nothing had changed, and he was about to cry in horror. There was the table, and at its centre the steaming dish, and around it were the same people, and in their hands the same spoons.

Yet the shrieking had gone, and the cries and the curses had changed to blessings; and nothing had changed, yet everything. For with the same long spoons they reached to each-other's mouths and fed one another, and they gave thanks to God.

And as the priest heard the blessings, the door closed. He fell to his knees, and he too blessed God who had shown him the nature of heaven and hell, and the chasm - a hair's breadth wide - that divides them.

Love is the way. Demonstrated by Jesus Christ...like no other.

Who gets the credit in the end?

God sent Jesus......Jesus only looked to his father for his call and answered only to him.

For us. To show us. Jesus now sits at the right hand of God!

Think of the other path.

Who will get the credit? God? That's right..................

but which God?