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How Should a Christian Act?

 
 
Im the other one
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:30 pm
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Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification, Wanda. It is certainly a different thought process than I thought you were saying.

Just how does one go about saving someone's soul? Not to be disrespectful, but it sounds like David Koresh or Jim Jones to me.


No problem.Very Happy

That's a good question. I just do whatever God leads me to do. It's more what he does thru them. When people try and won souls over to God, I think he gives them the sources they need when they need it. Bible scriptures bring up quite contraversy, kinda like striking a nerve, I noticed. But it can be strong and effective if the person is ready to open up and receive it I think. Nonbelievers usually don't understand bible verses however and only see the bad part of them thinking we are condemming them. When in fact, when someone receives the holy spirit, the Bible is very comforting. That's not understood until they turn over tho. We just have to remember not to give up, because God doesn't give up on us, he keeps working us, waiting. Other than that, I can't think of anything besides to show the love we should for everyone nomatter what.
If anyone else can add to that to answer your question, they're free to jump in too. :wink:

Wanda
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:33 pm
echi,

The word "rapture" does not occur in the Bible. The concept of the Rapture, though, is clearly taught in Scripture. The Rapture of the church is the event in which God removes all believers from the earth in order to make way for His righteous judgment to be poured out on the earth during the Tribulation period. The Rapture is described primarily in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-54. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 describes the Rapture as God resurrecting all believers who have died, giving them glorified bodies, and then departing the earth with those believers who were still alive, who have also been given glorified bodies. "For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever" (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).

http://www.gotquestions.org/rapture.html

Here are some more links on the natural disasters.

http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/NEWS/0,,contentMDK:20169861~menuPK:34457~pagePK:34370~piPK:34424~theSitePK:4607,00.html

http://www.livescience.com/environment/051017_natural_disasters.html

http://www.environmenttimes.net/article.cfm?pageID=122

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Study/RisingCost/
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Im the other one
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:34 pm
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Not to mention, it seems awfully convenient to be a pest and then say "God put it in me...."


This can work both ways.

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Having a desire for something doesn't make following that desire right. That's the whole point of free will.


There's a huge difference in the type of desires you're referring to and the type I am referring to.

Following God is not like commiting sins of the flesh or any such thing.


Wanda
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echi
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:34 pm
Okay, I did a quick search and found what (apparently) the fundamentalists believe was said by Jesus about the time leading up to His second-coming. (This is from contederministries.org)

1. False Prophets and False Christs
2. War
3. Famine
4. Earthquakes
5. Tribulations (worldwide hatred for Christians)
6. Worldwide preaching of the Gospel
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Algis Kemezys
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:35 pm
How should a Christian act ? Hopefully with the proper method.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:36 pm
Wanda, are you old enough to be on this forum? Just curious.
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Algis Kemezys
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:36 pm
And never for less than standard rates.
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Im the other one
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:37 pm
Momma angel wrote:
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I'm the other one,

Do not worry about what anyone says about your desire to be a Christian or what you believe the Lord has in mind for you. No one can tell you that. Just try to understand that for those that do not believe as we do, it is kind of hard for them to understand how we feel.

They do have the right to their beliefs, feelings, etc., just the same as you do.

Just try not to take it personally.


Oh, I don't take it personal. Noone can shake this faith. :wink:


Wanda
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:37 pm
Good for you Wanda!
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Im the other one
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:38 pm
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echi,

If you are serious and would like to talk about this, please email me.


Shocked
Very Happy
:wink:

?

OK,
Wanda
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:40 pm
echi decided to have the conversation in the open forum, Wanda. So, chime in if you see something I miss or anything.
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Im the other one
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:50 pm
Sentata wrote:

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These clowns have been claiming for two thousand years that we are living at the end of days . . . it ain't happened yet, though that hasn't lessened the enthusiasm for millenarian horsiepoop . . .


Well, aren't you a pleasent one? Laughing

I have to agree that Christians have been hanging onto this for many many years.
There are just things that are different now than before tho.
Yeah, yeah, you say, the prophesies blah, blah, blah...
We have the technology to fulfill Revelations now, if not we're pretty darn close. We didn't have before.
The tower of babel is already atleast 1/2 built.
The Temple Mount the A/C will stand in and claim himself as God will rebuilt in the next year or two.
I know you don't see all of this either but...many things have to be pondered.
Why the stars are fading out in the night sky
why people can't seem to get along as well, even family
why sicknesses are harsher than before and take much longer to get over
why 'new' species are bring discovered, animals are confused, mad
why depression and anxiety are on the rise and schools want to cram ritalin down child's throats to get thru the day with them,
why each year child abduction and murder is on the rise
why when you take a prescribed pill, you ahve to take something to counteract the symptoms it's causing, and you notice they never do get much better,
why you see the moon as a brighter deeper color orange (sometimes) as
it use to be
why the storms are hitting harder at a more increasing rate than before
.......I'm not thru, but you catch my drift. :wink:

The list is endless. I'm sorry for rambling like this. There's too much to not see in today's world. Don't you ever wonder these things?
I already know your answer tho...
Science, people, it's the way the world works.

Wanda
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Im the other one
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:52 pm
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echi decided to have the conversation in the open forum, Wanda. So, chime in if you see something I miss or anything.


gotcha :wink:
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queen annie
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:53 pm
We had a earthquake here, day before yesterday.
We NEVER have earthquakes. NEVER. I've lived here all my life.


Not that it means anything. Except that there will briefly be a new answer to 'what's new' around here.

Probably be good as 'news' for about a year. Laughing

The best place, IMO, for data is the US governement. They have NOAA and the USGS, and NASA. You have to 'compile' your own results, but at least you know only your own opinion is tainting the mix.

I do think there are things going on with the Earth, but the way I figure, it's been 10,000 to 13,000 years since the last ice age and related upheavals. Mother Earth must clean house now and then. If it takes 52,000 years for our solar system to travel it's 'orbit' around the galactic center (a galactic year) then 13,000 years is nothing more than a seasonal change and must be expected, the way I see it.

As far as rapture goes--it is based on what's been taken from Latin translations of the Greek--which were totally unnecessary linquistic detours and part of the biggest causes of the dark ages. The word, in the Greek is not at all what it has come to mean to us, today.

Subterfuge and propaganda from the 'Vicar of Christ' and his holy agenda.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:55 pm
queen annie,

Are you and yours okay? I cannot imagine going through an earthquake. I hope everything is all right.
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Im the other one
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 09:20 pm
DYS, I'm 31.

Are you old enough?

heehee
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echi
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 09:21 pm
Momma--

I read the verses you suggested. Thank you. But I don't take it to mean the same thing that you do.

In Thessalonians Paul seems to be telling the people not to grieve those who have died because they, too, are alive in Christ. He goes on to describe the event of dying (which I guess you interpret as the Rapture).

In Corinthians, it seems he is attempting to explain, to those who are having trouble understanding, that, upon dying, it is not our earthly body that will be resurrected, but our "heavenly body". "It is sown a natural body; It is raised a spiritual body."(1 Corinthians 15:44)

Am I correct in assuming that you interpret it differently?
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 09:23 pm
1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1 Thess 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1 Thess 4:18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.

[caught up=HARPAZO=Rapture]
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 09:26 pm
1Cor 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Cor 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Cor 15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Cor 15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Cor 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
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Im the other one
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 09:28 pm
You go Lash.
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