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How Should a Christian Act?

 
 
Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 04:32 pm
Setanta wrote:
Yes, MOAN, i would mind, so i won't. This site is full of self-professed christians who go from one year to the next without asserting what they believe the religious truth to be. You've been here a very short time, and all you do is attempt to spread the word as you see it, when you are not actually engaged in touting your virtue. Therefore, it is evident that your purpose here is to foist your beliefs on others.


Set,
Have you noticed that this is the Spirituality & Religion forum? Is that not the right place to discuss religion? Are you here to discuss religion, or bash the religious?

You go on an on about how people are foisting their religion on you. There is a very simple way to avoid this. Stay out of the religious threads. We all know that you can't do that because you have a reason to do so. Of course, that reason has nothing to do with civil discourse. It has everything to do with Christian bashing.
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echi
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 04:33 pm
Momma--

Okay. I'll look into that, too.
Do you know, off the top of your head, what the other signs are? The ones that have already occurred? I can't think of any.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 04:38 pm
Bullshit . . . i am here for the very particular reason that in reading this thread, the very title of which is yet another example of MOAN's obsession with christian virute, i was hilariously amused to see yet more evidence of her guile and hypocricy. I don't bash everyone who makes religious posts, i don't follow people around to criticize their posts (something both you and Snit . . . er, i mean Snood have consistently done with regard to my posts)--but i am also entitled to comment on any post in any thread at this site. I have not said that MOAN is attempting to foist her religion on me--even she is not that dense--rather, i see her attempting to foist it on others. Therefore, i comment. Which is my right.

The number of christians at this site about whom i have never made a single negative remark is legion. You deal, once again, in the statistical fallacy of the enumeration of favorable circumstances. You only notice the posts of mine which you do not like--you fail to notice the literally thousands of posts i have made in which there is no criticism of anyone's religious beliefs, you fail to notice the literally tens of thousands of post with religious content upon which i have never commented.

But you just entertain yerself any way you choose, Bubba.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 04:42 pm
echi wrote:
Momma--

Okay. I'll look into that, too.
Do you know, off the top of your head, what the other signs are? The ones that have already occurred? I can't think of any.

echi,

Earthquakes, tsunamis, etc. are signs of the end times. Other signs are men turning away from God and to only what they want to do.

Mr. Setanta Wrote:

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Yes, MOAN, i would mind, so i won't. This site is full of self-professed christians who go from one year to the next without asserting what they believe the religious truth to be. You've been here a very short time, and all you do is attempt to spread the word as you see it, when you are not actually engaged in touting your virtue. Therefore, it is evident that your purpose here is to foist your beliefs on others.


Could you please explain to me, Mr. Setanta, why it is you feel you have the right to demand others do not address you in any other form than Setanta? Have you not asked and demanded this of others? Mr. Setanta, I am really trying to understand you, but sometimes I admit, it is rather hard to do.

Mr. Setanta, this is the Religion and Spirituality Forum. :wink: This IS the place to discuss my beliefs. I do not force my religion on anyone. I answer questions. I do not tell anyone if they don't believe like I do they will go to hell or anything like that. Rolling Eyes

If you wish to look at this as touting my virtue, Mr. Setanta, I cannot do anything about that. Of course, if you accuse me of something that I do not feel I am doing, I will tell you how I feel I am not doing it. :wink:

Mr. Setanta, I have said many times what my intent is being on A2K. I am looking for answers to help me understand what others believe and why Idea

Have a good day, Mr. Setanta.http://web4.ehost-services.com/el2ton1/heart.gif
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 04:51 pm
Mr. Setanta Wrote:

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Bullshit . . . i am here for the very particular reason that in reading this thread, the very title of which is yet another example of MOAN's obsession with christian virute, i was hilariously amused to see yet more evidence of her guile and hypocricy. I don't bash everyone who makes religious posts, i don't follow people around to criticize their posts (something both you and Snit . . . er, i mean Snood have consistently done with regard to my posts)--but i am also entitled to comment on any post in any thread at this site. I have not said that MOAN is attempting to foist her religion on me--even she is not that dense--rather, i see her attempting to foist it on others. Therefore, i comment. Which is my right.

The number of christians at this site about whom i have never made a single negative remark is legion. You deal, once again, in the statistical fallacy of the enumeration of favorable circumstances. You only notice the posts of mine which you do not like--you fail to notice the literally thousands of posts i have made in which there is no criticism of anyone's religious beliefs, you fail to notice the literally tens of thousands of post with religious content upon which i have never commented.

But you just entertain yerself any way you choose, Bubba.


Mr. Setanta,

I stated exactly why I posted this thread. It had nothing to do with touting any Christian virtue. This thread has helped me understand the views of others much better.

Mr. Setanta, did you know that a legion is comprised of between 3,000 and 6,000? :wink:

And Mr. Setanta, you have made the statement about how you do enjoy ridiculing certain behavior, haven't you Question But, Mr. Setanta, that is not the point. The point is, we have all said and done things we shouldn't say and do. I think it is a natural thing for people to do when they feel either themselves or their beliefs are being attacked. But in the end, we are all responsible for our own actions and no one else's. :wink:

Mr. Setanta, do you really believe that some could in no way read your posts as being derogatory to them and their beliefs Question If you don't mean them to be that is one thing, but sir, sometimes it does come across that way.http://web4.ehost-services.com/el2ton1/heart.gif
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echi
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 04:56 pm
Intrepid--

I have to jump in, here, because I feel your post directly applies to me. This is a "Spirituality and Religion" forum. It is not exclusively for Christians. Furthermore, it is not exclusively for people who are religious.
I can understand why some (esp. atheists and agnostics) might find little difference between "spiritual" and "religious", but as someone who is non-religious (even a bit anti-religious) yet highly spiritual, I can tell you that I see quite a huge gap.
And beyond the religious/spiritual point, this (as I understand) is a forum for anyone who wishes to discuss spiritual or religious topics. Surely, you can agree on that.
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echi
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 04:59 pm
Momma Angel wrote:

echi,

Earthquakes, tsunamis, etc. are signs of the end times. Other signs are men turning away from God and to only what they want to do.


But haven't these things been occurring throughout history?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 06:40 pm
echi,

Yes, they have. But not with the same regularity nor the on the same scale of force. There are other things.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 07:01 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
echi,

Yes, they have. But not with the same regularity nor the on the same scale of force. There are other things.

So, can I assume you have keep a record, measured scale and frequency? I know that some geologists and other earth science people try to do this but I am unfamiliar with the results. Please enlighten us with your data ma.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 07:10 pm
If I thought you were even half serious about any of this dys, I would oblige you. But, I just don't get the feeling that you are.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 07:14 pm
Judge not. Oops too late.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 07:15 pm
But, I won't assume anything so, here is a link for a start. There are plenty of them out there.


http://www.earthchangestv.com/breaking/May2000/0527dramatic.htm
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 07:22 pm
Too bad, so sad,
anyway I read your link which is about as credible as reading tea leaves. Nice try though. Do you next offer to display evidence that astrology vs astronomy is a valid comparison?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 07:25 pm
dys,

Did you click on any of those other links in that article? You wouldn't give any credibility to The Earth Institute's data?

How about this one?

http://www.cquest.utoronto.ca/env/env200y/ESSAY02/disasters.pdf
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 07:46 pm
time frame relevance?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:00 pm
dyslexia wrote:
time frame relevance?


Here are a few more:

http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/30/63/33845215.pdf

http://www.worldwatch.org/live/discussion/117/

http://www.environmentnepal.com.np/disaster_m.asp
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echi
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:03 pm
Momma--

I couldn't open the second link you provided, but I did look at the first one. The data presented goes back only a hundred years, or so. That's not clear evidence.
Then I looked a little further and discovered that the article is from a junk-science website, complete with terms like "global warming cult". That's as far as I got.
Did you know you were getting information from an agenda-driven site like that? I want to believe that you did not.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:06 pm
echi,

I didn't have a problem opening the second link. I don't know why you did.

Which one said global warming cult? I didn't catch that.

No, I didn't realize that. I was just putting up some sites where they were saying that the frequency of natural disasters has increased.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:19 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
echi,

I didn't have a problem opening the second link. I don't know why you did.

Which one said global warming cult? I didn't catch that.

No, I didn't realize that. I was just putting up some sites where they were saying that the frequency of natural disasters has increased.

As I said above, they are not credible. Surely you can locate actual data/information to support your hypothesis. Don't don't you go and find sites that document how the aliens landed in Roswell and impregnated all the young and loverly virgins. (You can also find those on the net)
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echi
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2005 08:21 pm
For some reason, I can't open the PDFs. But the other two (worldwatch and environmentnepal) appear to be good, credible sources.
Still, I don't get how you have become convinced that any of this is a sign of the approaching "rapture".
Unless I'm mistaken, the Bible makes no mention of the rapture, anyway.
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