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I Say We Duke It Out!

 
 
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 02:14 pm
timberlandko wrote:
I submit that no matter how one chooses to read the statement in question, when parsed, the statement is a hypothetical. I submit fiurther you destroy your own argument with your statement " ... I think the second sentence in that statement by him makes it pretty clear he is doing the "if it's ok for you to do it then I can too" thing because he is confirming his first sentence by his last sentence ... "

Now, I'll not deny the snarkiness of Setanta's intent in that post, nor do I dispute what clearly he implied thereby. None the less, as typed by Setanta, the passage in question qualifies - albeit barely - as a hypothetical. That doesn't excuse it, by any means; it comes awfully close to the edge, but technically stays just short of going over it. It wasn't particularly civil, but it was moderately cleverly - if intemperately - done.

I can live with that. :wink:
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squinney
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 02:17 pm
Whew! That was exhausting to read!
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 02:18 pm
So whaddaya think of that referee, that timberlandko, folks? Is he one great arbitrator or what? Breaks up the clinches, retires 'em to neutral corners, watches out for low blows. Wow! This is a great bout!
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 02:33 pm
squinney wrote:
Whew! That was exhausting to read!

Ya think? Ya shouldda tried coming up with it and typing it - that was fairly exhausting Laughing
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 02:48 pm
Timber,

You are, indeed, a wonderful referee! Thank you so much!
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yitwail
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 02:49 pm
when you've rested, timber, would you address my riposte, please? ;-)

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1733339#1733339
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 09:37 pm
I submit that if Yitwail contends that RR was "kidding" that he is very desparate to sustain his contention, and is not terribly familiar with RR and his style. Not that i recommend to anyone that they read much of RR's work to get a feel for it . . . just as i wouldn't recommend to someone that they randomly step off the kerb into heavy traffic . . .
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 09:44 pm
Setanta wrote:
I submit that if Yitwail contends that RR was "kidding" that he is very desparate to sustain his contention, and is not terribly familiar with RR and his style. Not that i recommend to anyone that they read much of RR's work to get a feel for it . . . just as i wouldn't recommend to someone that they randomly step off the kerb into heavy traffic . . .

Mr. Setanta,

There you are! How are you tonight, fine sir?http://web4.ehost-services.com/el2ton1/cheekkiss.gif

Mr. Setanta, I think we can all understand that sometimes people post things that might tick us off a little bit and we might retaliate. :wink: I think the important thing is to just admit our mistakes and apologize and then go on.http://web4.ehost-services.com/el2ton1/biggrin.gif I mean, everyone makes mistakes. We are all human afterall.http://web4.ehost-services.com/el2ton1/heart.gif
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 09:47 pm
When first i logged on today, i found a private message addressed to me by Yitwail which obliquely referred to the subject currently under discussion in this thread. I considered the PM an imposition and an impertinence, but i responded to it civilly, because Yitwail has always addressed me in a civil manner. I believe that i am correct in asserting that i replied in a civil manner.

Of those who have posted in the last five pages, there is only one who has met me in person. That individual can assert that i treat everyone i meet in public in a civil manner--and, i think it would not be unreasonable to assert that that member knows that i try to be friendly and charming to everyone i meet in public.

When responding to Yitwail's private message, i asked the two following questions:

Do you feel obliged to converse with everyone who can shout at you in a public place?

Do you feel obliged to suffer fools gladly in a public place just because they are able to push through the throng and harangue you?

The cyber world and the real world are two very different places. In real life, i not only suffer fools, i try to get along with fools if i am unable to avoid them, and then try to get away from them as soon as courtesy permits. Online, things differ vastly. Online, i do not suffer fools gladly. Online, i enjoy pointing out to fools that they are fools. I am sure that there are many here who consider me a fool. I am equally certain that i do not care.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 09:49 pm
MoAn wrote:
We are all human afterall.


I consider this to be an unsubstantiated statement to which i refuse to subscribe without considerably more evidence.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 09:51 pm
Setanta wrote:
MoAn wrote:
We are all human afterall.


I consider this to be an unsubstantiated statement to which i refuse to subscribe without considerably more evidence.


Maybe you are right, Setanta. We were giving you the benefit of the doubt. Laughing
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 09:52 pm
Setanta wrote:
When first i logged on today, i found a private message addressed to me by Yitwail which obliquely referred to the subject currently under discussion in this thread. I considered the PM an imposition and an impertinence, but i responded to it civilly, because Yitwail has always addressed me in a civil manner. I believe that i am correct in asserting that i replied in a civil manner.

Of those who have posted in the last five pages, there is only one who has met me in person. That individual can assert that i treat everyone i meet in public in a civil manner--and, i think it would not be unreasonable to assert that that member knows that i try to be friendly and charming to everyone i meet in public.

When responding to Yitwail's private message, i asked the two following questions:

Do you feel obliged to converse with everyone who can shout at you in a public place?

Do you feel obliged to suffer fools gladly in a public place just because they are able to push through the throng and harangue you?

The cyber world and the real world are two very different places. In real life, i not only suffer fools, i try to get along with fools if i am unable to avoid them, and then try to get away from them as soon as courtesy permits. Online, things differ vastly. Online, i do not suffer fools gladly. Online, i enjoy pointing out to fools that they are fools. I am sure that there are many here who consider me a fool. I am equally certain that i do not care.
Mr. Setanta,

Would you say that is like having two sides? :wink: So, if you can't actually see the person you are discussing something with, you don't feel you should have to treat them civilly? http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/crazy/097.gif Hmmmmmmhttp://web4.ehost-services.com/el2ton1/poke.gif
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 09:53 pm
What Intrepid said.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 09:53 pm
No, i would say nothing of the kind.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 09:58 pm
Setanta wrote:
No, i would say nothing of the kind.

Mr. Setanta,

Then I am very confused, sir.http://web4.ehost-services.com/el2ton1/confusedsmiley.gif So, would you treat me in the same manner in person as you do on these threads? :wink:
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Algis Kemezys
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 10:00 pm
Be good yourself because evryone else might not be.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 10:01 pm
Hi Algis.Kemezys,

Nice of you to join us. I like that!
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yitwail
 
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Reply Sat 17 Dec, 2005 10:13 pm
Setanta wrote:
When first i logged on today, i found a private message addressed to me by Yitwail which obliquely referred to the subject currently under discussion in this thread. I considered the PM an imposition and an impertinence, but i responded to it civilly, because Yitwail has always addressed me in a civil manner. I believe that i am correct in asserting that i replied in a civil manner.


i regret that you found it an impertinent imposition, but i entirely agree that you replied in a civil manner, and would add that you have likewise always addressed me in a civil manner as best i can recall.

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When responding to Yitwail's private message, i asked the two following questions:

Do you feel obliged to converse with everyone who can shout at you in a public place?

Do you feel obliged to suffer fools gladly in a public place just because they are able to push through the throng and harangue you?


no, i don't feel obliged to converse with someone shouting at me, and i don't suffer haranguing gladly, but would instead look for the nearest exit. barring that, i may even lose my temper, depending on the duration of the haranguing; a temper is one of my shortcomings, usually well-under control, but can flare up under stress. i thought your questions were rhetorical, so i didn't reply.
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timberlandko
 
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Reply Sun 18 Dec, 2005 05:14 am
Hi, Algis.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 18 Dec, 2005 06:08 am
MoAn wrote:
Then I am very confused, sir.


Your honesty is refreshing--but it is no news.

You asked if i would say that my remarks are "like having two sides." They are not. If i met you in person and you started your smarmy, phony christian hypocricy, i'd walk away. If you attempted to follow me and persist, i'd respond in two ways--i'd tell you to back off, and if in a public place i'd demand of management that they prevent your harrassment. If i were in someone's private place, i'd ask them to prevent your harrassment, or if on my own property--put you off the property.

I have recourse to none of those solutions online--so i am obliged to tell you you've said idiotic things when that is the case, and, in fact, owing to the unique character of the venue, i enjoy doing so.

A reminder for you, while you're puking up you phony "christian love," you're the one who started a thread entitled "Let's duke it out." Spare me the hypocricy intended to suggest that you are sweetness and light and that i am the original blue meanie.
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