Why does the Bible get misinterpreted so often????

talk72000 Wrote:

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Why do you keep on acting or pretending to be dumb? Those are plain words. No double-meaning or ambiguous words. It disagrees with your beliefs so what? Deal with it. I don't if you believe George Burns is God. Religion is a private matter. You bring it out in public and be ready for a different outlook on your beliefs. You came here trying to impose and influence people to your religiuos agenda. I show your god to be a demon. Only a demon would do those things.

Are you talking to me? Dumb? About what? What the heck are you getting bent out of shape over, talk?

I came here trying to impose and influence people to my religious agenda? Are you kidding me?! It's a Spirituality and Religion Forum, talk. Uh, we discuss things here. You know, like what I believe and like what you believe?

Have I accused you of anything because of what you believe? I've just been answering your questions. You believe Jesus is the devil. I don't. You haven't proven any such notion by any stretch of the imagination IMO.

Why are you getting all upset? It's just a discussion. Christianity isn't contagious you know. You can't catch it by reading something someone types.

Get a grip, sweetie. It's just a discussion.

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talk72000 wrote:

Isaiah is not metaphorically speaking. He gave a name and specified what Lucifer would do in plain language. Too bad it disagrees with your beliefs.

No talk.... YOU disagree with my beliefs How did you become such an expert all of a sudden?

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Talk is cheap, but:

'Lucifer' is not a name. It is a description. It means 'shining one'.

Jesus is like God because he was the first of all creation and is the image of God. After his sacrifice and resurrection, he was raised to his father's right hand.

Satan wishes to be like God. He seduced Adam and Eve into abandoning their worship of God so that he could have it for himself.

Jesus is not God. His name means 'Jehovah's salvation'.

Satan is not Jesus. His name means 'rebel' or 'resister'. Before he rebelled, he was indeed a 'shining one.'

'Devil' is a descriptive word that means 'slanderer'. It is applied to Satan because of his allegations about God.

Satan does not literally 'fall to the earth' in the sense of being confined to the earth until the events of Revelation 12: 7-9, in which Michael, whose name means 'who is like God', battles with Satan and removes him from heaven.

If the name 'who is like God' sounds like it could be Jesus, you have made an appropriate connection which makes a heck of a lot more sense than Jesus/Satan.

After all, who was it who tempted Jesus?

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Quote, "Jesus is like God because he was the first of all creation and is the image of God. After his sacrifice and resurrection, he was raised to his father's right hand."

Why did god need a sacrifice to save sinners? Isn't his word good enough?

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A sacrifice that comes back from the dead is no sacrifice; it's a short sleep.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

Quote, "Jesus is like God because he was the first of all creation and is the image of God. After his sacrifice and resurrection, he was raised to his father's right hand."

Why did god need a sacrifice to save sinners? Isn't his word good enough?

Spoken like one who does not understand that ". . . the Law has become our tutor leading to Christ . . ." (Galatians 3:24)

As for God, he doesn't need anything. And yes, his word is good enough. (John 1:1)

Gotta go now. Have fun today. Smile

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cicerone imposter wrote:

A sacrifice that comes back from the dead is no sacrifice; it's a short sleep.

The dying wasn't the hard part; it was his suffering which was hard. (If one believes what is written concerning it)

However, I understand your point about why God would need a sacrifice to atone for sin. Why did God have those in Jericho walk around the wall for seven days and then on the seventh, seven times blowing a horn. Couldn't he have just made the wall come down? A talking mule? Killing all those innocents when Israel would take the cities? Killing babies in the flood and Sodom and Gomorrah? What about those guys throwing some books in the Bible out and leaving others in? Why do some of the stories resemble pagan rituals and myths? Questions like these and a million others can plague a person day and night (they have me in the past) but in the end it comes down to faith. If after having searched yourself, you still believe, then you just accept that God's ways are not ours and leave it at that. At least that is what I have done after going through a couple of years of searching and questioning. I never came up with answers to some of the questions, but my faith remained so in the end, I just have accepted it and went on.

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Do you think if Good would have just wiggled His nose and all these things had been done mankind would have paid any attention at all to it?

Look at creation vs. evolution. Creationists see it as a miracle and understand it was from God. Evolutionists seem to need proof. Well, God gave us proof. But, obviously, for the evolutionists, it wasn't enough.

Now, if Christ had died from say a common cold, do you think that would have gotten much attention? I doubt it. He was crucified on the cross. Can you think of a more horrible form of torture? He was whipped, beaten, scourged (ever read what that is?) and then He was nailed to a cross and pierced in His side. His suffering was something I pray none of us ever have to endure. And we don't have to because He did it for us.
Then on the third day, He rose again. Alive! He was dead and is now alive. Now, that's something to talk about.

Yes, God could have just wiggled His nose, said one word, waved His hand. Would you have recognized it?

Jesus Christ suffered all these things as a man because WE could understand that. WE could understand that kind of pain. He understood and understands how we feel. But, how much of mankind understands how God feels? How much of mankind understands how much God loves us?

The misconception that some seem to have is that God provided the sacrifice for Himself. God provided the sacrifice for us.

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Cicerone Imposter Wrote:

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A sacrifice that comes back from the dead is no sacrifice; it's a short sleep.

A short sleep? If you died and came back from the dead would you just think it was a short sleep? You wouldn't see it as a miracle from God?

The miracle and point of it all is that Christ came to this earth to conquer the evil of Satan. He did that. He took sin onto Himself for all of us. He took that sin upon Himself and died with it. He was resurrected without the sin. He overcame the sin. He won!

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We understand that the Devil has free will, like us. Lucifer and other angels were banned from Heaven. Other angels were banned from Heaven because they had sex with women here on earth (hence the Nephilims). So, the angels had the carnal need for sex. They had free will as well. These questions puzzle me: Does Jesus have free will? If so, can he turn into evil like Lucifer did at any given moment? How can we be sure that Jesus or any other saint (if they have free will) won't turn evil in the future?

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Jason,

Christ has no sin in Him. None. He is pure and perfect as the Father. Look at it logically, in all of the years of the Bible, has He ever turned evil? If He hasn't been evil since the beginning of time, I think (for those that believe in logic and reason more than God) that would be a pretty good indicator, don't you?

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Momma Angel wrote:

Jason,

Christ has no sin in Him. None. He is pure and perfect as the Father. Look at it logically, in all of the years of the Bible, has He ever turned evil? If He hasn't been evil since the beginning of time, I think (for those that believe in logic and reason more than God) that would be a pretty good indicator, don't you?

Could you rephrase the above into a coherent sentence?
Probably not, nevermind.

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dys,

I can try to rephrase it for you.

Christ is Perfect. God is Perfect. Perfection has no evil.

In the Bible, there is not one instance of Christ committing a sin. His character is laid out in the Bible. His character is not described as anything but good and perfect. So, why would anyone think He is evil if there is no evidence of it?

Better?

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Ok, Momma. Yeah, Jesus hasn't turned evil ever since his biblical accounts. But are the angels and saints pure? But Lucifer spent a long, long time in heaven before he turned evil. So, can angels and saints turn evil and be sent to Hell just like Lucifer? If pureness can be corrupted, then Jesus can also be corrupted, like Lucifer. I don't know. I'm just applying a little bit of logic [here.]

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Jason, Good point! And just think of all those who think they'll go to heaven, a place that doesn't guarantee anything. If angels fall...

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Unless, ofcoarse, free will is no longer operative.

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Momma Angel wrote:

dys,

I can try to rephrase it for you.

Christ is Perfect. God is Perfect. Perfection has no evil.

In the Bible, there is not one instance of Christ committing a sin. His character is laid out in the Bible. His character is not described as anything but good and perfect. So, why would anyone think He is evil if there is no evidence of it?

Better?

well, it is more coherent, illogical but coherent.

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Sorry dys. I can't make you understand it. I can only tell you how I understand it.

Jason,

Let me do a bit of research. I want to make sure that the answers to your questions are fully addressed. I will get back to you in a bit, ok?

Cicerone Imposter,

If there was anything in this world I could give to you, it would be hope and understanding that God's promises are just that ~ guarantees. Mankind is who decides against God. God does not decide against us.

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Humankind is what and who decides what and who God is.

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Another common misconception, Timber. It's the other way around. He created us. We only try to make Him into what we want Him to be.

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