Why does the Bible get misinterpreted so often????

"Heck of it is; now I have to abide by it myself."
That's even better, neo, and Happy New Year to you!

When I said that if something changes then it cannot be the word of God, I meant that - Truth, no matter how it is represented will always speak the same language and mean the same. So if differences arise, then that idea cannot be God's idea. If the interpretation changes according to the individual, it cannot be the word of God.

Beena, All good points, but believers can't see the inconsistencies in their translations.

Happy New Year Everyone!

All that is being disucssed in this thread for the last couple of pages has been discussed before.

Jesus is the Son of God, He is not lucifer.

Yes, there are many different interpretations of the Bible for many different reasons.

It is also important to remember that someone just starting out reading the Bible is not going to have the same understanding as someone who has been reading and studying it for a long time.

Momma Angel wrote-



I hadn't noticed my quote from Isaiah being discussed Momma and it's on the page before this.

Care to try it darling?

spendius,

As soon as I am finished with this meeting with the other Angels, I will address your Isaiah reference.

spendius,

See if this helps.

The Prophet Isaiah was primarily called to prophesy to the Kingdom of Judah. Judah was going through times of revival and times of rebellion. Judah was threatened with destruction by Assyria and Egypt, but was spared because of God's mercy. Isaiah proclaimed a message of repentance from sin and hopeful expectation of God's deliverance in the future.

Do you know people who claim to be believers in Christ who are two-faced, who are hypocrites? That is perhaps the best summary of how Isaiah viewed the nation of Israel. Israel had an appearance of righteousness, but it was a facade. In the Book of Isaiah, the Prophet Isaiah challenges Israel to obey God with all of their heart, not just on the outside. Isaiah's desire was that those who heard and read his words would be convicted to turn from wickedness and turn to God for forgiveness and healing.

MA:

Just because you does not make it so. In plain language Revelation has Jesus identified as Lucifer. To simplify, you Thumpers have identified Lucifer as some fallen angel; whereas it (Isaiah 12) is simply a forecast of an event on earth where someone (Jesus, or his followers) would set himself up as God and he will fall from heaven as he is shown not to be God. Simple isn't it? No devil no angel. Just a revelation.

Satan's fall from heaven is described in Isaiah 14:12-14 and Ezekiel 28:12-18. While these two passages are referring specifically to the king of Babylon and the King of Tyre, they also reference the spiritual power that was behind those kings - Satan. In regards to when Satan fell, these passages describe why Satan fell, but they do not specifically say when the fall occurred. What we do know is this: the angels were created before the earth (Job 38:4-7). Satan fell before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden (Genesis 3:1-14). Satan's fall, therefore, must have occurred somewhere after the time the angels were created and before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Whether Satan's fall occurred a few minutes, hours, or days before he tempted Adam and Eve in the garden, Scripture does not specifically say.

Why did Satan fall from Heaven? Satan fell because of pride. He desired to be God, not to be a servant of God. Notice the many "I will..." statements in Isaiah 14:12-15. Ezekiel 28:12-15 describes Satan as an exceedingly beautiful angel. Satan was likely the highest of all angels, the most beautiful of all of God's creations. Satan was not content in his position. Instead, Satan desired to be God, to essentially "kick God off His throne" and take over the rule of the universe. Satan wanted to be God, and interestingly enough, that is what Satan tempted Adam and Eve with in the Garden of Eden (Genesis 3:1-5). How did Satan fall from Heaven? Actually, a fall is not an accurate description. It would be far more accurate to say that God cast Satan out of Heaven (Isaiah 14:15; Ezekiel 28:16-17).

http://www.gotquestions.org/Satan-fall.html

talk,

Are you one of the Angels of Light?

huh?

I'm with you on that one Intrepid.

Cicerone Imposter Wrote:



And some non-believers can't see anything but what they believe to be true. Well, that is unless, of course, they find a Bible scholar that agrees with them. Then they become believers in that Bible scholar. :wink:

Like I said to understand don't bring in extraneous theories about Lucifer. It is a prophecy about Morningstar (Jesus) falling nothing else. It is possible that Jesus in his previous incarnation was Helel or a demon.

talk72000,

Uh no, it's not a prophecy about Jesus falling. And no, it's not possible that Jesus was ever reincarnated or was Helel or a demon.

Would you mind telling me how you came about your conclusions, talk72000? Perhaps it will help me understand a bit better.

It would help many, I am sure.

Isaiah 14:12 (KJV with Hebrew)
"How art thou fallen from heaven,
O Helel, son of Shahar!
how art thou cut down to the ground,

Helel, or Day Star, is a Canaanite god. Shahar is another Canaanite god

In his fallen state, Helal was known as Azazel, the earth-bound demon to whom the Israelites gave as a yearly sacrifice on the Day of Atonement a "scapegoat" that was sent into the wilderness for Azazel after another goat had been sacrificed before the mercy seat of Yahweh:

What does that have to do with you believing Jesus is really Lucifer?

Why do you keep on acting or pretending to be dumb? Those are plain words. No double-meaning or ambiguous words. It disagrees with your beliefs so what? Deal with it. I don't if you believe George Burns is God. Religion is a private matter. You bring it out in public and be ready for a different outlook on your beliefs. You came here trying to impose and influence people to your religiuos agenda. I show your god to be a demon. Only a demon would do those things.

Isaiah is metaphorically speaking of the king of Babylon. The reason for the title of this thread is because of the kind of interpretations you put forth.

Isaiah is not metaphorically speaking. He gave a name and specified what Lucifer would do in plain language. Too bad it disagrees with your beliefs.