Why does the Bible get misinterpreted so often????

Are we forgetting that there are several 'laws' mentioned in the bible?

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neologist wrote:

Are we forgetting that there are several 'laws' mentioned in the bible?

No we are not. For the purpose of this discussion we are focusing on the 'law' that Jesus was to have fulfilled, whether it be 1 law or 50.

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The Mosaic law. Impossible for imperfect humans to follow.

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We know that neo.

But in the general meelee and mayhem of those times the Bible describes out of the other side comes us lot by Destiny.Describing the intricacies of the process is a nightmare fit for a fiend.

I will agree that attempting to can be good fun, so long as you don't get over-excited,and fill many hours of what might otherwise be too tiresome and mundane to endure.

But the inexorable Law of Destiny is what the Bible says to me.And it seems miraculous when I think of what life must have been like for a guy like me under the matriarchy on a cold and windy night.

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Predestination?

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Questioner,

Don't you think it was all of the laws that were fulfilled?

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Momma Angel wrote:

Questioner,

Don't you think it was all of the laws that were fulfilled?

How does one fulfill a 'law'? MA, to be honest, I don't know enough about what the 'law' is to comment on it. Which is why i'm trying to illicit some guideance from you. Instead, all I seem to be getting are one-liners and catch phrases which help me none at all.

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Predestination?

No,no a 1000 times no.

What happens.What will be will be.In nature.

This cup of tea here,my maid just brought in, is predestined to be drunk by me shortly.That doesn't mean it will be drunk.
Suppose the phone rang to tell me I'd won the lottery.This cup of tea would go cold as I went to fire the maids now I could afford some better lookers.And nobody drinks cold tea.It's destiny is down the drain in one step instead of two then but that then becomes its destiny.You'll have to read Spengler if you want a more scientific essay.A rolling point of time in space.The infinitessimal point between the dead "become" and the living,firing on six cylinders,"becoming".

If I post later it's destiny will have been fulfilled.And the maids.

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Questioner,

I understand what you are saying.

To me, fulfilling the law is like someone serving their sentence for a crime. Christ served the sentence for our crimes (sins); therefore, He fulfilled that law.

So, we are no longer under that old law with that old punishment. Does that help any?

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Momma Angel wrote:

Questioner,

I understand what you are saying.

To me, fulfilling the law is like someone serving their sentence for a crime. Christ served the sentence for our crimes (sins); therefore, He fulfilled that law.

So, we are no longer under that old law with that old punishment. Does that help any?

No.

Let me make it fairly simple here.

What. . . . is. . . . the. . . . law . . . . he. . . . fulfilled?

Is it the The Mosaic law? The Messianic Law? Is this law even spelled out in the bible or is it just something that we're expected to 'know'?

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timberlandko wrote:

Again, Implicator, no interpretation involved, just reading the words that are there, imputing to them no meaning other than that which is theirs by definition, taking each sentence as being a complete thought in and of itself ... same way one would read any owners manual, technical guide, or legal treatise.

Leaving the obvious point aside for now that even owners manuals are subject to ambiguity, what leads you to believe you should "read" the Bible as if it were as unambiguous as you would like to think the average legal treatise is?

timberlandko wrote:

Now, either the Bible is an owners manual for the soul, a technical guide to the universe, and a treatise setting out and clarifying the laws and their particulars, complete in every detail, incontravertible, in keeping with its claims for itself, requiring no interpretation or interpolation, leaving room for none such, or its an assemblage of myth, tradition, and self-agrandizing agenda, interpreted by some to mean what is necessary to support a particular agenda, by others interpreted in such fashion as is convenient to support some other particular agenda. Which is it?

It is a false dichotomy.

It seems silly that you would even propose the first option which includes the qualification "leaving room for none such [interpretation]" when you have previously indicated that interpretation is happening, albeit by someone other than you.

As for the second option, the question is still on the table as to why we should believe you when you imply that you don't "interpret [the Bible] to mean what is necessary to support a particular agenda." Sure, you have told us that you don't do this, that you simply read the words on the page, but others who hold contradictory readings claim the same as you. To move this beyond the point of "I don't interpret the Bible because I said so", you need to offer something that separates you from the rest who claim the same method of "reading" as you.

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The laws in the Old Testament, Questioner. Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Testament, so therefore we are still under those laws. All the other laws, the stoning, eye for an eye, etc., hygenic, sacrificial, etc., laws no longer apply.

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spendius wrote:

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Predestination?

No,no a 1000 times no.

What happens.What will be will be.In nature.

This cup of tea here,my maid just brought in, is predestined to be drunk by me shortly.That doesn't mean it will be drunk.
Suppose the phone rang to tell me I'd won the lottery.This cup of tea would go cold as I went to fire the maids now I could afford some better lookers.And nobody drinks cold tea.It's destiny is down the drain in one step instead of two then but that then becomes its destiny.You'll have to read Spengler if you want a more scientific essay.A rolling point of time in space.The infinitessimal point between the dead "become" and the living,firing on six cylinders,"becoming".

If I post later it's destiny will have been fulfilled.And the maids.

Firing the maids for better lookers. . . You cad!

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Quote: "Perhaps C.I. could explain what he is trying to tell us."

Are you for real? Heck, you christians interpret the words of the bible in ways that are mysteries for the rest of us! I would never presume to interpret the bible - since they are subjectively interpreted by each individual.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

Quote: "Perhaps C.I. could explain what he is trying to tell us."

Are you for real? Heck, you christians interpret the words of the bible in ways that are mysteries for the rest of us! I would never presume to interpret the bible - since they are subjectively interpreted by each individual.

I think Intrepid was referring to the fact that you posted an avalanche of words with very little explanation as to what conclusion you expected us to draw. Probably not your fault so much as a phenomenon associated with voluminous quotes and our tendency to look for specifics.

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cicerone imposter wrote:

I would never presume to interpret the bible - since they are subjectively interpreted by each individual.

Could you clarify this, please? What or who are the "they" that are being subjectively interpreted by each individual?

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I agree with Momma Angel on the laws. (shocking huh?)

The law came 430 years after the promise of the covenant to Abraham. The law was given because of transgression until the promise of the seed should come. Sacrifices of pure animals were made to atone for sins until Jesus died on the cross to fulfill the need for the law. Now we live by the faith in Jesus Christ instead of the letter of the law. Gal. 3: 16-25, Romans 7:6 Romans 8

http://biblestudy.churches.net/base/FULFILL.TXT

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Thank you, revel. I am glad that you understand.

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Quote: "Could you clarify this, please? What or who are the "they" that are being subjectively interpreted by each individual?"

There may be some agreement among several peope, but as this thread has shown, many interpretations of verses are possible. Some say the ten commandments was overruled by the NT, while others claim it was not.

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Intrepid wrote:

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"Perhaps C.I. could explain what he is trying to tell us."

Cicerone Imposter replied:

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Are you for real? Heck, you christians interpret the words of the bible in ways that are mysteries for the rest of us! I would never presume to interpret the bible - since they are subjectively interpreted by each individual.

Yes, C.I.... I am for real. I was referring to the fact that you posted an avalanche of words with no explanation as to what conclusion you expected us to draw or why you posted it. Probably not your fault since you frequently post volumes without explanation. It would help if you would try to understand the stuff you cut and past from the internet so that you could explain why you posted it so that we can understand what you are trying to say.

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