Why does the Bible get misinterpreted so often????

spendi, You'll have to ask timber or one of the other web-police.

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Thank c.i.

timber-

Why has the super ID thread on Science and Mathematics,those disciplines of objective truth,been locked?

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Questioner wrote:

Momma Angel wrote:
Questioner,

Start with this.

Interesting passages. They mention dissolving of the law, but fail utterly to mention what law, and which portions. Also they didn't make mention of who mandated the law was no longer in effect.

Awaiting MA's review. The three sources mentioned are all attributed to Paul, although Ephesians is generally considered to not have been written by him and added later to his 'letters' by attribution around 90CE. Paul was the self-proclaimed spokesman of truth but, with the exception of Luke's descriptions in Acts (which was written about 30-40 years after Paul's activities), there is no other authority granted to Paul that I am aware of.

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Questioner,

I'm doing the research. Will try to get back with you tonight on this. If not tonight, then tomorrow for sure.

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Dunno offhand, spendi - haven't looked. Without looking, I'm gonna guess there was something along the lines of inappropriate posting behavior there somewhere. I could go look, but I don't much care ... that sorta thing - a lockdown - typically lasts only about a day or so. If you've got a question about Moderation, you proolly oughtta contact the Moderators And whatever, Moderators don't much discuss what Moderators do, so I don't imagine there's much point chasing it down. There's something mentioned along those lines in a topic on the Announcements forum:

*** Contacting the moderators (please read) ***.

Mebbe checking that out might answer some questions for you. One thing I can tell you - and this pretty much goes for everybody, I think; if you notice a Moderator action and don't know anything about it, it doesn't involve you. I think also a whole buncha Moderator stuff happens that folks never notice. That, IMO, is pretty much as it should be.

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Questioner,

Okay, I did some research and found some verses in the New Testament that say we are not under the law (of the Old Testament):

Lk.16:16
"The law and the prophets were until John [the Baptist]: since that time the kingdom of heaven is preached."

Rom.6:14
"Ye are not under the law, but under grace."

Rom.7:4, 6
"Ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ .... We are delivered from the law, that being dead."

Rom.10:4
"Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."

Gal.5:18
"But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law."

Eph.2:15
"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances."

If you need some more info, just let me know.

Here is a link that also might explain it better.

http://www.biblicalstudies.org.uk/article_law.html

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Momma Angel wrote:

Questioner,

Okay, I did some research and found some verses in the New Testament that say we are not under the law (of the Old Testament):

Lk.16:16
"The law and the prophets were until John [the Baptist]: since that time the kingdom of heaven is preached."

Rom.6:14
"Ye are not under the law, but under grace."

Rom.7:4, 6
"Ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ .... We are delivered from the law, that being dead."

Rom.10:4
"Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth."

Gal.5:18
"But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law."

Eph.2:15
"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances."

If you need some more info, just let me know.

Luke 16:16 continues: and everyone tries to enter it by force. :17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away, than for one stroke of a letter in the law to be dropped NRSV

The rest are attributed to Paul, whose authority seems to be self-proclaimed.

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Which means? Questioner asked me for some specific verses in the Bible and that's what I gave him. I didn't realize there were any restrictions on my answer.

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Quote:

Matt 5:17-20 (KJV)
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

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Questioner wrote:

Momma Angel wrote:
Questioner,

Start with this.

Interesting passages. They mention dissolving of the law, but fail utterly to mention what law, and which portions. Also they didn't make mention of who mandated the law was no longer in effect.

No, he asked what law and which portions and under whose authority. Your answer didn't answer his questions.

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If you will go to that link I posted, it explains about the laws.

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Momma Angel wrote:

If you will go to that link I posted it explains about that.

So what that interpretation means is superior to what the words say, and most specifically with reference to 5 Matthew 17 et seq? Look up the word "sophistry".

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timber,

Jesus Christ was the fulfillment of the law. Once He was crucified, the law was fulfilled. The punishment for the Old Testament laws were fulfilled.

With Christ's death, burial and resurrection, the law was fulfilled. We then have the New Testament of Christ.

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I've often wondered why god needed a sacrifice?

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Here is another link that explains the laws and the new covenant.

http://www.biblestudylessons.com/cgi-bin/gospel_way/old_law_today_1.php

Cicerone Imposter,

Read the Bible. It explains it quite well. :wink:

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As I said, lookup the word "sophistry". The reason the Bible has such devoted adherents is that they are able to convince themselves it means not what it says but what they wish it to mean.

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Maybe it has exhausted itself and the same oafs keep on banging their heads on the wall trying to bring ID into science classes..

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timberlandko wrote:

As I said, lookup the word "sophistry". The reason the Bible has such devoted adherents is that they are able to convince themselves it means what they wish it to mean.

timber,

If you will excuse the expression, that is bull.

talk,

Wow, I haven't heard that one yet. Now I can add oaf to my list of special names. Rolling Eyes

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Momma Angel wrote:

timber,

Jesus Christ was the fulfillment of the law. Once He was crucified, the law was fulfilled. The punishment for the Old Testament laws were fulfilled.

With Christ's death, burial and resurrection, the law was fulfilled. We then have the New Testament of Christ.

Matthew 5:18; For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not one letter, not one stroke of a letter, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. NRSV

How did the death, burial and resurrection cause heaven and earth to pass away?

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http://www.gotquestions.org/abolish-fulfill-law.html

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