spendius wrote:The official position,often stated,of the Roman Catholic church is that if no possibility of conception exists "sex" is not taking place.One may wish to give what is taking place another name but I'll refrain from suggesting one.Thus,I think,The Church would line up with "i know" and against people trying to defend their own past or present behaviour with self-serving semantics.
the church would line up with iknow, but not with his view that slutty men are more honorable because they are slutty.
i am also not roman catholic so what they think of sex is not really my business. and i am certainly not defending anything, i just find it ignorant to believe that because there is a sexual relationship present between a man and a woman that doesn't have deep meaning, the woman is a slut and less honorable and the man is more honorable because he got some.
spendius, i am wondering, what exactly you are arguing.
spendius wrote:To discuss "sex" without any reference to children produced by it,or not,is irresponsible.And the State has a direct interest in those children.And it also has an interest in disease and social stability and the possibilty in a sexually promiscuous environment of incest taking place without the knowledge of the parties.
how does this have to do with the thread? not trying to be rude, just trying to understand your point.