what makes a woman?

so essentially , you are saying what I said a few pages ago....?

there is a difference between sex and popular porn. sex is isn't bad typically, but too much of it is. you can make it bad very easily, and it happens a lot. rape is a problem, a lot of women have been raped, i forgot the percent? porn doens't help the image that its ok for a woman to be in that position, imo.

so essentially , you are saying what I said a few pages ago....?

That is a good point.
And in my mind, violent porn can only lead to real life violence.
This is a blanket statement I know, and doesnt apply to EVERY single human, but is a possibility for most.
I think that when something like violent porn becomes a norm for a person their ability to fantasize about it is -muted-. The excitement is faded and they look for bigger better ways to keep the fantasy feeling going.

iknow wrote:

there is a difference between sex and popular porn. sex is isn't bad typically, but too much of it is. you can make it bad very easily, and it happens a lot. rape is a problem, a lot of women have been raped, i forgot the percent? porn doens't help the image that its ok for a woman to be in that position, imo.

shewolfnm wrote:

so essentially , you are saying what I said a few pages ago....?

shewolfnm wrote:

That is a good point.
And in my mind, violent porn can only lead to real life violence.
This is a blanket statement I know, and doesnt apply to EVERY single human, but is a possibility for most.
I think that when something like violent porn becomes a norm for a person their ability to fantasize about it is -muted-. The excitement is faded and they look for bigger better ways to keep the fantasy feeling going.

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i think 'iknow' was saying exactly what i said about violent porn.
Does that clear up my statement?

iknow wrote:

Bella Dea wrote:

iknow wrote:

the more of this very negative media in society. the more likely say little kids would see it. there more that is out there, the more likely its going to get into the wrong hands.

I think porn is the least likely corruptor of society.

Drugs, alcohol, bullying, unrealistic beauty standards...those are what are screwing up our kids more than seeing some naked people doing what God intended us to do. Now don't twist this to make it sound like I think a 10 year old should be watching porn but you are making it seem like sex is bad. If people in the US would quit acting like sex is a dirty act, porn wouldn't be so taboo and this conversation wouldn't be happening.

there is a difference between sex and popular porn. sex is isn't bad typically, but too much of it is. you can make it bad very easily, and it happens a lot. rape is a problem, a lot of women have been raped, i forgot the percent? porn doens't help the image that its ok for a woman to be in that position, imo.

Oh god don't get me started on why porn does NOT contribute to rape. Rape is not about sex, how many times do I have to say that to people here? Seriously. A very small percentage of rapes are due to sexual desire. And underlying that desire is the real reason the men rape. To get control, retain control or enforce control.

Normal peole don't watch porn and say "Hmmm, it's ok for me to be somewhat forceful with women during sex because that guy gets away with it in my porn". A man who thinks that would have thought that with or without the porn. I am not condoning violent porn. I know it is out there. I am talking about your run of the mill, get it in a video store porn that 99% of the population is viewing.

Influence or no influence, if you are a decent person, you know better. And if you aren't a decent person and don't know better, then you'd have done it before the porn.

I guess I should say that someone who is pre-dispositioned to commit an act of rape or other violent sexual assult may "feed" off of films like that, may get ideas or may become energized by them. But I am very doubtful that they would do something after watching a violent porn film if they were never going to do something like that anyway.

shewolfnm wrote:

i think 'iknow' was saying exactly what i said about violent porn.
Does that clear up my statement?

Yes, and for once we don't agree 100%.

Influence or no influence, if you are a decent person, you know better. And if you aren't a decent person and don't know better, then you'd have done it before the porn.

I guess I should say that someone who is pre-dispositioned to commit an act of rape or other violent sexual assult may "feed" off of films like that, may get ideas or may become energized by them. But I am very doubtful that they would do something after watching a violent porn film if they were never going to do something like that anyway.

Bella Dea wrote:

Influence or no influence, if you are a decent person, you know better. And if you aren't a decent person and don't know better, then you'd have done it before the porn.

I guess I should say that someone who is pre-dispositioned to commit an act of rape or other violent sexual assult may "feed" off of films like that, may get ideas or may become energized by them. But I am very doubtful that they would do something after watching a violent porn film if they were never going to do something like that anyway.

see...
we do agree..
you just worded it better..
( see my previous post )

it influences them and they don't know it. its an added temptation for sure. if the temptation and desire to do it is increased, the likely hood everyone will do it is increased as well too. and so many women get sexually assualted we aren't talking about a few people we have to worry about here. its increasing hte desire/understanding of it in a LOT of potential abusers.

iknow wrote:

it influences them and they don't know it. its an added temptation for sure. if the temptation and desire to do it is increased, the likely hood everyone will do it is increased as well too. and so many women get sexually assualted we aren't talking about a few people we have to worry about here. its increasing hte desire/understanding of it in a LOT of potential abusers.

The rape statistics haven't risen. The number of people coming forward may have increased but number of rapes hasn't increased.

Bella Dea wrote:

iknow wrote:

it influences them and they don't know it. its an added temptation for sure. if the temptation and desire to do it is increased, the likely hood everyone will do it is increased as well too. and so many women get sexually assualted we aren't talking about a few people we have to worry about here. its increasing hte desire/understanding of it in a LOT of potential abusers.

The rape statistics haven't risen. The number of people coming forward may have increased but number of rapes hasn't increased.

so far there isn't a supply of violent porn available i was just saying if that was the case.

it goes so far as to show people screwing incisions in womens bellies..

no elaboration needed because your imagination RIGHT now.. isnt NEAR as accurate as it should be.