what makes a woman?

iknow wrote:

Bella Dea wrote:

iknow wrote:

Setanta wrote:

Your immature and uniformed opinions of the sexual habits of women is insulting when you try to use them to contend that women who do not behave as you think they ought are sluts. What is even more ludicrous is that you then turn around and insult men by suggesting that they can only think with their peckers, and its OK for them to be promiscuous, poor souls, because they are incapable of anything else.

And by the way, that contention of Spendius that the possibility of conception is a crucial determining factor is not born out in the historical record provided by period literature. Promiscuity has been a fact of human life for as long as people have been writing about human life.

support?

You don't provide "support" so why should anyone else?

everyone should provide support. and i do.

Ok, you want to play that game we can. Here's my support...now lets hear your personal experience as a woman.

I've had more than one sexual partner and sex outside of marriage with all but one of them and I am in no way a slut.

I've never had a disease.
I've never gotten pregnant.
I don't feel bad about myself.
I've never had a man not respect me because we had sex.
I've never felt ashamed of my sexuality.
I've never felt slighted by an experience with someone that wasn't deep and emotional.


Is that enough support for you to prove that not all women who enjoy sex are somehow faulted and less than 100% honorable? Can you prove to me otherwise?

When you grow a uterus and ovaries you come talk to me about how women feel about sex.

but did you feel good about yourself? srue not feeling bad is a first step. the second step is feeling good.

you can argue what kind of woman i am today-whether or not i am honorable now, but again, i told you the things i strive for in three separate posts now, and i find them honorable. and so does my husband, family and friends, and that is what matters most to me.

however, i am pretty sure bella feels damn good about herself, as she should.

Being a virgin would not recommend a woman to me. I'd rather she took care of her problem and came back to see me later.

dragon49 wrote:

however, i am pretty sure bella feels damn good about herself, as she should.

That I do. I am an independent woman who is not ashamed of what she is or how she does it.

Bella Dea wrote:

dragon49 wrote:

however, i am pretty sure bella feels damn good about herself, as she should.

That I do. I am an independent woman who is not ashamed of what she is or how she does it.

and you do it well, if i must say so myself...being an independent woman that is

One can easily see why philosophy is a male preserve and,moreover,that it is under attack.This is a good example of how that attack goes forth and if it succeeds and becomes the normal method of discourse at cabinet level,which is the aim,we men will jolly well have to respect our womenfolk and show it despite whatever antics they have been up to hitherto.

Philosophy is a male preserve?

My Philosophy professors would have been startled by that tidbit.

No benefits have been suggested so far except personal indulgence.And a lot of assertions centred on the self and not on society.

I think the European middle classes of the 30's,40's and 50's suggest that promiscuity is not an eternal
constant.And other examples are easy to find.Even monkey troupes don't quite go flat out.

One can easily see why philosophy is a male preserve and,moreover,that it is under attack.This is a good example of how that attack goes forth and if it succeeds and becomes the normal method of discourse at cabinet level,which is the aim,we men will jolly well have to respect our womenfolk and show it despite whatever antics they have been up to hitherto.

spendius wrote:

One can easily see why philosophy is a male preserve and,moreover,that it is under attack.This is a good example of how that attack goes forth and if it succeeds and becomes the normal method of discourse at cabinet level,which is the aim,we men will jolly well have to respect our womenfolk and show it despite whatever antics they have been up to hitherto.

Now i think you're a bloody masochist . . . or just starved for attention. If by philosophy you mean the discipline as practiced in ivory towers, with all of the attendant obscurantism, obfuscation, oversimplification and esoteric irrelevancies promoted as profound thought--then i suspect the distaff participants here would be willing to accept that judgment, as i certainly would.