Setanta wrote:Ticomaya wrote:I understand you feel that way, GF. But you have no proof to substantiate your claim (and neither does Setanta), and therefore all you have are your feelings. Wild claims to the contrary have thus far all been debunked.
On August 26, 2002, at the Veterans of Foreign Wars convention, Cheney stated: "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." -- as that was not true, and this has subsequently been shown not to be true, such an unequivocal statement on his part constitutes a lie. He may have believed as much, but he did not know, and he spoke as though he did--therefore, he knowingly, willfully lied. The Shrub made remarks of the same character, asserting a knowledge he did not possess in his pre-war radio addresses. Get over it, Tico, your boys are politicians, they lie for a living.
You must know you are making a fundamental error: When one who asserts something they believe to be a fact as unequivocally true, which later turns out to not be true, that does not constitute telling a knowing and willful "lie."
What Cheney did was knowingly and willfully assert that he believed it to be true. Had he knowingly and willfully stated that it was unequivocally a true fact,
when he knew that it wasn't, that would constitute a lie.
You get over it. You believe they lied, but that is merely your unsubstantiated opinion, worthy of all weight apropos thereto.