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What Noble Cause Did Casey Sheehan Die For?

 
 
PDiddie
 
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Sun 28 Aug, 2005 08:18 pm
http://photobucket.com/albums/y142/lonestarnot/100_0172.jpg
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JustWonders
 
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Sun 28 Aug, 2005 08:54 pm
Musta been taken at the Crawford "Peace" House.

Smile
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squinney
 
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Sun 28 Aug, 2005 08:56 pm
Somebody get that kid some meat and potatos!
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Lash
 
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Sun 28 Aug, 2005 09:06 pm
Predictable parenting.
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Intrepid
 
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Sun 28 Aug, 2005 09:07 pm
Maybe his father was a soldier
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ralpheb
 
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Sun 28 Aug, 2005 09:34 pm
If my son ever did that I'd kick his ass and his mother's ass for letting him be that disrespectful! I know of no soldier who would let their child be that disrespectful at that age.
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Intrepid
 
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Sun 28 Aug, 2005 09:35 pm
I meant a "lost" soldier
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ralpheb
 
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Sun 28 Aug, 2005 09:37 pm
Doesn't matter!
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Intrepid
 
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Sun 28 Aug, 2005 09:39 pm
Doesn't matter if the dad is dead?
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ralpheb
 
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Sun 28 Aug, 2005 10:14 pm
doesn't matter that that's is his attempt at an excuse for the behavior. If I'm killed over here my family inn no way shape or form better do something like that.
I have told my family time and again, no matter how I die or get killed you will NEVER take up a cause to protest what killed me. Ie: If i'm killed on a motorcycle do not protest motorcycles. If I'm killed in war do not protest war. All of these things we do voluntarily. We must accept responsibility for our actions. We as soldiers put into action our enlistment to military service. Our families are aware of this as well. Don't these people have respect for the wishes of these servicemen and women? We fight and have fought to give you people freedoms and people don't have that commom curtousy to respect what we have done. Every war since the begining of time has always had two sides: the doves and the hawks. And evrybody sits around debating about war and wars. Politicians sit and try to find other ways to solve issues between countries. Sometimes they are succesful, sometimes not. No matter what people complain about what was done. At what point does a president or leader say enough. If he keeps talking and puts forth no action, people will say he is spineless. If he commits his troops to action people will say he did it too soon. For all of you monday morning quarterbacks I have just this to say: If you dont like the way the leader of your country is doing things, run for office and get elected. If you have a complaint about the election process of your country move somewhere else.
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Intrepid
 
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Sun 28 Aug, 2005 10:34 pm
I do not believe that soldiers expect to be put into an unjust war and sacrifice their lives. I may be wrong. You obviously, are an exception to that. You may not have noticed my latitude/longitude so you may not be aware that I am not an American. I do not like all of the things that the leader of my country is doing, but he did not commit us to a war based on nothing more than suspicion.
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goodfielder
 
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Mon 29 Aug, 2005 12:47 am
I want to post something sensible but I'm still chuckling over the photo. I should come back later Very Happy
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dlowan
 
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Mon 29 Aug, 2005 01:34 am
Heehee.....

Kind of reminds me of what Noel Coward said, upon witnessing the elephant in the opera Aida defecate in great quantities upon the stage during a key scene:

"Shocking manners, of course - but what a critic."
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squinney
 
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Mon 29 Aug, 2005 06:21 am
The woman that hugged the soldiers mom at the State of the Union speech in January has turned against Bush.

See Here

And

Here

Quote:
The prominent women's rights campaigner denounced wording that grants each religious sect the right to run its own family courts -- apparently doing away with previous civil codes -- as an open door to further Islamicise the legal system.

Although in practice, many Iraqis end up having recourse to religious authorities or informal tribal law, the idea of a united civil code is central to the modern state, Souhail said.

"This will lead to creating religious courts. But we should be giving priority to the law," she said.

"When we came back from exile, we thought we were going to improve rights and the position of women. But look what has happened -- we have lost all the gains we made over the last 30 years. It's a big disappointment."

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Despite the brutality and despotism, the decades of Baath Party rule under Saddam Hussein left a largely secular legacy, which included relative freedom for women....

Souhail said the United States, a crucial backstage player keen for a deal that meets U.S.-backed deadlines, had let the Shi'ite Islamists and Kurds in government do as they wish.

"We have received news that we were not backed by our friends including the Americans. They left the Islamists to come to an agreement with the Kurds," she said.
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Lash
 
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Tue 30 Aug, 2005 05:08 pm
From the article squinney brought, above:

"Souhail said the United States, a crucial backstage player keen for a deal that meets U.S.-backed deadlines, had let the Shi'ite Islamists and Kurds in government do as they wish.

"We have received news that we were not backed by our friends including the Americans. They left the Islamists to come to an agreement with the Kurds," she said."
_____________________________

Democrats complain: Iraq is a Bush puppet. He will be telling them what to do.

Democrats complain: Hey! Bush should have told them what to do.

At least PICK ONE!

They are their own country. They won't immediately become what they will be. This is a first step. They will shake off Islamic law in time. In THEIR time.
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old europe
 
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Tue 30 Aug, 2005 05:11 pm
Lash wrote:
From the article squinney brought, above:

"Souhail said the United States, a crucial backstage player keen for a deal that meets U.S.-backed deadlines, had let the Shi'ite Islamists and Kurds in government do as they wish.

"We have received news that we were not backed by our friends including the Americans. They left the Islamists to come to an agreement with the Kurds," she said."
_____________________________

Democrats complain: Iraq is a Bush puppet. He will be telling them what to do.

Democrats complain: Hey! Bush should have told them what to do.

At least PICK ONE!

They are their own country. They won't immediately become what they will be. This is a first step. They will shake off Islamic law in time. In THEIR time.


Weird argument, Lash.

I guess you could say, they would as well have shaken off Saddam in time. In THEIR time.
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Lash
 
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Tue 30 Aug, 2005 05:18 pm
Yeah. We removed him.

Do you also suggest we tell them what their country will be now? Or do you agree with Bush that they should put it together themselves?
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old europe
 
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Tue 30 Aug, 2005 05:23 pm
Lash wrote:
Yeah. We removed him.

Do you also suggest we tell them what their country will be now? Or do you agree with Bush that they should put it together themselves?


Oh Lash, maybe you could explain the concept of "nationbuilding" again...? Isn't the whole point to tell them what their country will be? No?

Are you trying to tell me the only purpose was to help them get rid of Saddam, so that they could install another islamic Sharia law Taliban state instead of the secular dictatorship they had before?

I probably didn't get the memo that said that Sharia law is en vogue at the moment....
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mysteryman
 
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Tue 30 Aug, 2005 05:31 pm
Quote:
so that they could install


EXACTLY!!!!!
The key word is THEY.
They can have whatever govt they want,but at least they get to choose it instead of a dictator telling them
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old europe
 
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Tue 30 Aug, 2005 05:35 pm
Good for you, mysteryman. You speak up for the Iraqis who 'choose' to rely on Sharia law.

I just wonder if that is because the United States got rid of Saddam. And I'm trying to imagine if you would be as happy as you seem to be if the Iraqis themselves had gotten rid of Saddam, and installed an islamic country instead...

Would you?
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