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Should we handle victory the way the Christian god decrees?

 
 
Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 10:51 am
MommaAngel wrote:
If you took God out of my everyday life, I would have and be nothing! God is my life. He comforts me, He helps me, He sustains me.


Do you realize what you are saying, Momma?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 11:03 am
I'm sure I have related this episode before but what the hay, I drove down to the little local grocery, got out of my truck and started across the parking lot when a man approached me with "spare change?" I fumbled in my pocket and fished out a $1 and handed it to him. He responded with "thank the lord" I immediated demanded he give me back the $1 and told him he could thank the lord when the lord gave him the $1.
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 11:54 am
Yeah, what the hay.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 12:11 pm
Clues to human behavior abound in the rest of the animals. Many mate for life, many can grieve to death over loss of a mate, etc. Love itself may be deep within our biology, not some high spiritual plain. Look how easily love turns to hate, etc. What we think is love may be something else again.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 12:12 pm
Exactly. He was thanking the Lord for sending you to him. Seems that the Lord made a mistake this time.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 12:14 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
Clues to human behavior abound in the rest of the animals. Many mate for life, many can grieve to death over loss of a mate, etc. Love itself may be deep within our biology, not some high spiritual plain. Look how easily love turns to hate, etc. What we think is love may be something else again.


So you are saying that you cannot prove that there is love. Do you think that animals have the ability to hate?
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 12:14 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
Clues to human behavior abound in the rest of the animals. Many mate for life, many can grieve to death over loss of a mate, etc. Love itself may be deep within our biology, not some high spiritual plain. Look how easily love turns to hate, etc. What we think is love may be something else again.


Sad, that.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 12:24 pm
Animals could possibly hate. My mother in law took in a stray dog that was as good as he could be to everybody but me. When I came near, he became livid. If she held him and ordered him to let me come up and make acquaintance, he allowed me to touch, but his teeth were bared. I think I reminded him of somebody he had had a bad relationship with before. He caught me in the yard alone once, and I had to fight him off.
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 12:26 pm
Love it. "Animals could possibly hate", but no way there's any God anywhere, though.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 12:31 pm
We can observe animals. There is no God to observe. Shee.
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 12:33 pm
And if you meet someone who tells you they have personally experienced the presence of God, you discard it out of hand. Shee.
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mesquite
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 01:29 pm
Do you think God told Bush to go into Iraq, or do you discard it out of hand, Snood?
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 01:34 pm
I think you're crazy if you think Bush being a nut has anything to do with my personal spiritual experience - does that answer your oh so witty question, Mesquite?
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Questioner
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 01:39 pm
snood wrote:
And if you meet someone who tells you they have personally experienced the presence of God, you discard it out of hand. Shee.


Not so much a "discard out of hand" type thing as more of a "put them in with the UFO abductees and elvis-sighters" type thing.
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mesquite
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 01:42 pm
Just trying to supply some perspective.
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 01:44 pm
Questioner wrote:
snood wrote:
And if you meet someone who tells you they have personally experienced the presence of God, you discard it out of hand. Shee.


Not so much a "discard out of hand" type thing as more of a "put them in with the UFO abductees and elvis-sighters" type thing.


It's your privilege to do so, sir. And as long as it is mine to hold that those who think nothing in the universe higher than their own intellect are among the most pitiably and abyssmally ignorant, then we have no conflict.
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Questioner
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 01:51 pm
snood wrote:
Questioner wrote:
snood wrote:
And if you meet someone who tells you they have personally experienced the presence of God, you discard it out of hand. Shee.


Not so much a "discard out of hand" type thing as more of a "put them in with the UFO abductees and elvis-sighters" type thing.


It's your privilege to do so, sir. And as long as it is mine to hold that those who think nothing in the universe higher than their own intellect are among the most pitiably and abyssmally ignorant, then we have no conflict.


Agreed. Cheers.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 02:27 pm
Phoenix Wrote:

Quote:
Do you realize what you are saying, Momma?


I realize what I stated was the truth. I know what my life was like without God. It was nothing. I was nothing. I know others don't understand that and that is okay. Some, though, do understand it perfectly.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 02:33 pm
MommaAngel wrote:
I know others don't understand that and that is okay. Some, though, do understand it perfectly.



I believe that I do understand exactly where you are coming from. And that is why I find your words so disconcerting.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 2 Nov, 2005 02:34 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
Animals could possibly hate. My mother in law took in a stray dog that was as good as he could be to everybody but me. When I came near, he became livid. If she held him and ordered him to let me come up and make acquaintance, he allowed me to touch, but his teeth were bared. I think I reminded him of somebody he had had a bad relationship with before. He caught me in the yard alone once, and I had to fight him off.


You are probably confusing hate with fear. Animals fight back out of fear, not a desire to hurt as humans do.
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