Should we handle victory the way the Christian god decrees?

No, he respects and loves us all, can't you tell?

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theloandoc wrote:

thanks Frank,
riddle me this. agnostic is latin for " to not know" or without knowledge if so why direspect that which we do not know?

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Actually...the word agnostic is a coined word derived from Greek...not Latin. Thomas Huxley coined the word to differentiate his philosophy from that of his atheistic friends. His difficulty arose from the fact that many of the atheists were asserting that there were no gods....which he saw to be unknown...just as he saw "there is a God" to be an unknown.

I'm not sure what you mean about "disrepect for that which we do not know."

Put some flesh on this...and I will respond.

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snood wrote:

No, he respects and loves us all, can't you tell?

I said I loved you folks. I said nothing about respecting any of you. Try not to put words in my mouth.

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Frank, How does one put flesh on something without bones? LOL

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Frank Apisa wrote:

snood wrote:
No, he respects and loves us all, can't you tell?

I said I loved you folks. I said nothing about respecting any of you. Try not to put words in my mouth.

S'okay, Frank - you don't make any sense either way, so it doesn't matter that much whether your spurious spoutings about "loving" us "folks" get misquoted to include respect. You don't do any of one, and very little of the other.

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Frank is your position that there is no God or that there is and you just don't agree with his rules and don't see the love in him?
if your position is that there is no God then you are gnostic meaning to know. if your position is that you don't know if there is or not, then agnostic is right and the flesh is if you are not sure one way or the other, then some of the name calling in the previous posts "id..t" +++is towards something you are not sure about.

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Good luck, loandoc!!

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There ya go, Frank - be yourself....

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theloandoc wrote:

Frank is your position that there is no God or that there is and you just don't agree with his rules and don't see the love in him?

Neither.

I do not know if there is a God; I do not know that there are no gods; I do not see enough unambiguous evidence upon which to base a meaningful guess.

It is not even my position that the god of the Bible does not exist. It may. If it does...or if it is, as is my guess, merely fiction...it still is an abomination. The god of the Bible...whether real or fiction...is a jealous, vindictive, vengeful, quick-to-anger slow-to-forgive, tyrannical, psychotic, murderous, petty, barbarian.

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Iif your position is that there is no God then you are gnostic meaning to know. if your position is that you don't know if there is or not, the agnostic is right and the flesh is if you are not sure one way or the other...

"If" Queen Elizabeth II had balls...she'd be King of England.

Your "ifs" are huge.

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... then some of the name calling in the previous posts "id..t" +++is towards something you are not sure about.

No it isn't.

I can read the Bible...and I can get a fairly good impression about the nature of the god described in it. I can share my feelings, opinions, and concerns about the god...whether it exists...or is fiction...and whether or not I know which it is.

Your reasoning is all screwed up here, Doc. Think about it for a while...and you will see that it is.

I'm still interesting in lots of conversation with you.

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snood wrote:

There ya go, Frank - be yourself....

No problem! I alway am.

You oughta give it a try.

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Frank Apisa wrote:

snood wrote:
There ya go, Frank - be yourself....

No problem! I alway am.

You oughta give it a try.

Nah, I don't think any of us would want to be you.

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Frank, from what i understand is that your not sure whether God exists or not, but i further understand that you might be leaning towards the fact that he does exist and just is not a very nice Entity.
if i am remotely correct is because i have also struggled with some of the things in the Bible, however when i look around and learn about echo systems and micro echo systems or just a rain storm i fail for one moment to comprehend something so complex and yet so simple as being an accident, there had to be in my opinion a creator of this Earth spinning at what? 17,000 miles an hour through space for how long now? without hitting something. to me the big bang theory is the same as saying that a tornado hit a junk yard and when it was all over with, there was a 747 jet fully functioning left out of the mess...just doesn't, compute with me...the reason i can converse with you without getting offensive defensive or judgemental, is because i have been through those questions and always came to the conclusion that the facts seem to indicate at one thing least we can hopefully agree on is that in life there seems to be a duality to nature, hot-cold up-down, east-west you get my point, with that said good and evil also exist... and and they both have advocates in this world. and how do you tell what kind of tree your looking at, by the fruit it bares.

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theloandoc, We all have our failures at writing the English language, but you take the cake! LOL
"...your not sure weather God exists ..." That's real funny!

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ooohhhhh cic i picked the wrong word out of spell check, lets forget the rest of the message and focus on that!
real strong brother!

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Hey CI do you Love everyone same as Frank does?

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Yeah - whew! With friends like those...

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How can I possibly love everyone? I've only met a very small percentage of the people of this world. I'm proud to say, though, that I have friends all around the world, and that includes Australia, Malaysia, Singapore, France, Germany, England, Egypt, Tanzania, Iran, Canada, Japan, Mexico, Argentina, Bulgaria, Hong Kong, and all across the US.

When I go to Singapore early next month, I'm having dinner with friends.

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theloandoc wrote:

Frank, from what i understand is that your not sure whether God exists or not, but i further understand that you might be leaning towards the fact that he does exist and just is not a very nice Entity.

Not even close to correct.

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if i am remotely correct is because i have also struggled with some of the things in the Bible, however when i look around and learn about echo systems and micro echo systems or just a rain storm i fail for one moment to comprehend something so complex and yet so simple as being an accident, there had to be in my opinion a creator of this Earth spinning at what? 17,000 miles an hour through space for how long now? without hitting something. to me the big bang theory is the same as saying that a tornado hit a junk yard and when it was all over with, there was a 747 jet fully functioning left out of the mess...just doesn't, compute with me...the reason i can converse with you without getting offensive defensive or judgemental, is because i have been through those questions and always came to the conclusion that the facts seem to indicate at one thing least we can hopefully agree on is that in life there seems to be a duality to nature, hot-cold up-down, east-west you get my point, with that said good and evil also exist... and and they both have advocates in this world. and how do you tell what kind of tree your looking at, by the fruit it bares.

You are not remotely correct...so the rest really does not follow.

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I purely hate everybody, regardless of race, religious affiliation, sexual orientation or ethnicity. Does that mean I am g*d?

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