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This is Biden's America

 
 
snood
 
  1  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 09:49 am
@hightor,
Maureen Dowd? Really?
hightor
 
  1  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 10:14 am
@snood,
I find her pretty annoying most of the time but occasionally she connects.
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 10:43 am
@hightor,
I've never read much by or about her, but the article makes some valid points.
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neptuneblue
 
  3  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 03:00 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
We and our NATO allies were suffering fewer than 20 deaths a year in Afghanistan, except for a couple peak years where we suffered a grand total of 26 deaths.
Your original post.

neptuneblue wrote:
You only counted six out of the 20 years American military personnel perished.

oralloy wrote:
Of course. I've always been open about the fact that I am only quoting those years. Since those are the only years that are relevant to the current situation in Afghanistan, those are the only years that should be quoted.
No, you have not been open about this nor are you correct in only counting six years. Your post is an inherent lie because it is incomplete.

neptuneblue wrote:
It seems you can't acknowledge the facts from your fiction.

oralloy wrote:
No such fiction. You cannot point out any untrue statements in my posts.

I just did.
oralloy
 
  0  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 06:23 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:
This insipid b*stard murders all useful dialogue.
Holds it down and pounds it over the head with dullard drivel until it's dead, or the thread is closed, or both.

Progressives hate it when their celebration of treason is spoiled by people posting facts and logic.
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oralloy
 
  1  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 06:24 pm
@vikorr,
vikorr wrote:
Best way to do it - move the conversation back to the intent.

It was your personal attacks that derailed the thread in the first place.
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oralloy
 
  0  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 06:26 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
No, you have not been open about this

Yes I have. It has been very clear that I have only been referring to the past six to seven years.


neptuneblue wrote:
nor are you correct in only counting six years.

Wrong. Those are the only years that are relevant to the current situation in Afghanistan.


neptuneblue wrote:
Your post is an inherent lie because it is incomplete.

Wrong again. Vikorr is the only liar here.

My posts are always complete.


neptuneblue wrote:
I just did.

No, you merely made untrue claims about my posts.
neptuneblue
 
  2  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 06:54 pm
@oralloy,
WTF?
vikorr
 
  2  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 07:35 pm
@neptuneblue,
Do you see the pointless discussion yet?

Mind you, I can't talk. I gave it a try for well over a year or two with others advising me it was pointless too. I didn't listen, thinking that anyone can eventually be reasoned with (and probably I give each individual the same chance as each individual should get). But the conversations ran into blank walls ad nauseum, with no change ever. An admission here or there, but no change.
neptuneblue
 
  2  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 08:43 pm
@vikorr,
I am well aware Oralloy cannot be reasoned with. But telling lies cannot be how a discussion is left unchallenged.

Maybe if Oralloy were a veteran and stood shoulder to shoulder with others who served, he'd understand how wrong he is.

Alas he is not a veteran, just a loud mouth who has not shown one iota of compassion, dedication, loyalty or honor that it takes to be part of the we few, we happy few, Band of Brothers.

vikorr
 
  2  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 08:52 pm
@neptuneblue,
I have a strong tendancy to think along your first line as well. But on the other hand - most know what he is like, and this forum doesn't affect the outside world much if at all.

But as I said, I can't talk, having a long history of talking to people who suffer the same problems. Part of the reason being I know our brains work largely through habit, and also that we can change a lot of our brains habits. Ie. I am hopeful in each of us growing, and don't think anyone is incapable of growing - unless they choose not to. Oralloy I've come to the conclusion after years of talking to him, chooses not to. Combine my first paragraph with this - and what then is the point?
edgarblythe
 
  1  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 08:58 pm
Why don't you people do this on some other thread?
neptuneblue
 
  1  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 09:14 pm
@edgarblythe,
If by chance you mean me, I think you should re-think your stance.

If not, my apologies.

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edgarblythe
 
  3  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 09:46 pm
I mean the incessant arguing with oralloy. Nobody believes anything he posts. Logging in here specifically to argue with him just encourages him to post more. hijacks a thread away from any useful purpose.
Mame
 
  2  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 09:53 pm
@edgarblythe,
If everyone put him on Ignore, the problem would go away. Why don't we all do that? There's no 'reasoning' with him and a few others... it's just repetitive irrational, contrived BS . It's a much pleasanter place when you don't have to read their bollocky kerap.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 09:53 pm
@edgarblythe,
You do not speak for everyone. You speak only for traitors and others who are completely lacking in honor and integrity.
oralloy
 
  0  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 09:56 pm
@Mame,
Only progressive traitors view it as a problem that I post facts and logic.

I do not share your opinion that facts and logic are BS.
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neptuneblue
 
  1  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 09:59 pm
@oralloy,
And you would know that from personal experience.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 10:01 pm
@vikorr,
It is dishonest of you to blame me for your inability to come up with intelligent arguments.

Your failures are your own, and I am not to blame for them.
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neptuneblue
 
  3  
Sun 5 Sep, 2021 10:02 pm
@Mame,
I'm not putting liars on Ignore.

Not in the past, not now, not ever.

That's how we got into this mess, ignoring how liars work.
It got Trump elected.

It won't be the future.

 

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