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Study on antibodies proving Covid jab might kill us eventually.

 
 
JB70
 
Thu 22 Jul, 2021 02:02 pm
Study by Mount Sinai Medical Center in New York

Any experts? What do you think? Now that they are trying to inject this into children we have to fight back hard.

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242430

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.03.07.21253098v2

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1. You take the shot.

2. You get both protective (good) and non-protective (neutral) or possibly enhancing (very bad), antibodies.

3. The protective antibodies are enough to prevent you from getting seriously sick or dying. We all cheer, and all appears to be well in the world. The results look good -- for a while.

4. Over time the antibody titer wanes. Now you don't have enough neutralizing antibodies but still have some of the bad ones which, if you get infected, make it materially more-likely the infection will kill you.

5. Then in comes the nice pharma dude who tells you to take this booster shot, which by the way isn't free and for which the price goes up every year, irrespective of the side effects which are real and remain (and might kill or seriously disable, and which risk you must accept every year forever into the future), or you're very likely to die because the virus is still out there and all you have are the bad antibodies that make an infection worse. While those too will wane over time it may take years before you're back to where you started before the stab in terms of risk."

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maxdancona
 
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Thu 22 Jul, 2021 02:11 pm
@JB70,
It is also true that brushing your teeth might cause your teeth to fall out, or that wearing shoes might make your toes wither.

You are being silly. Just get your shot already (and please brush your teeth).
Region Philbis
 
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Thu 22 Jul, 2021 03:09 pm
@JB70,

at least 192 million people (probably a lot more) have died from Covid.

scientists won't know for years what harmful side-effects people are at risk for from a bout with Covid.

are you really willing to take a chance and not get vaccinated?

are you really willing to risk your child's health?
farmerman
 
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Thu 22 Jul, 2021 03:35 pm
@Region Philbis,
Ill bet jb wears a seat belt.(cause the seat belt wars are long over)

Bcells produce T cells through the hypothalmus , and also antibodies.
One of the problems isnt that the VACCINE causes a deadly anaphylaxis or sitokine storm. It just means that the vaccine, at it dosage cannot stimulate the hypothalmus .
Thats why they are studyingBOOSTER shots for those whose antibodies are in- capable of hitting on an infection. They just want to see whether the T cells can be jacked up along with raising the antibodies.

Its not a simple relationship
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maxdancona
 
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Thu 22 Jul, 2021 10:14 pm
@The Anointed,
The Anointed wrote:

We know that one of the proven short term side effects of the shot, is death from blood clots, but no one knows the long term side effects of these experimental drugs.


I hope you don't drive a car.
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maxdancona
 
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Thu 22 Jul, 2021 11:09 pm
@The Anointed,
No and no.

The point is that people die from driving in cars every day. So if you follow the same logic, you would never set foot in a car.

I can't prove that buying new glasses won't burn my retinas out (since I know lenses in the sun can start fires.

You are being illogical. If you have a 1 in 100 chance of dying with the vaccine, and a one in 10,000,000 of dying with it... How do you justify choosing the first choice?
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edgarblythe
 
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Fri 23 Jul, 2021 07:23 am

cassandracarolina
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The folks telling you not to #GetVaccinated are FINE with the prospect of you dying of #COVID19 and its variants, and they’re FINE with you surviving and facing a lifetime of #COVID organ damage impacts. Ask yourself WHY they’re willing to sacrifice you and your loved ones.
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BillRM
 
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Fri 23 Jul, 2021 10:50 am
I would love to see some studies of what motivated some people to try to convicted others to place themselves and their families at great risk for an early and unneeded deaths.

I also wonder if those people are protecting themselves and their families at the same time as telling others not to do so.

This kind of reminded me of the woman who talk her boyfriend into going through with killing himself.

She ended up charge for doing this but I can not remember the outcome.
BillRM
 
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Fri 23 Jul, 2021 10:55 am
@BillRM,
Quote:


Michelle Carter, the 23-year-old convicted of manslaughter for encouraging her boyfriend to commit suicide, was released from jail in Massachusetts on Thursday. She served a 15-month sentence, but was released more than three months early.Jan 23, 2020
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Mame
 
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Fri 23 Jul, 2021 11:51 am
@Glennn,
As the Delta variant surges across the nation, reports of infections in vaccinated people have become increasingly frequent — including, most recently, among at least six Texas Democrats, a White House aide and an aide to Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

The highly contagious variant, combined with a lagging vaccination campaign and the near absence of preventive restrictions, is fueling a rapid rise in cases in all states, and hospitalizations in nearly all of them. It now accounts for about 83 percent of infections diagnosed in the United States.

But as worrying as the trend may seem, breakthrough infections — those occurring in vaccinated people — are still relatively uncommon, experts said, and those that cause serious illness, hospitalization or death even more so. More than 97 percent of people hospitalized for Covid-19 are unvaccinated.

NYT
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hightor
 
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Sat 24 Jul, 2021 11:09 am
Who is spreading coronavirus misinformation online? This Florida doctor, for one.

Quote:
SAN FRANCISCO — The article that appeared online on Feb. 9 began with a seemingly innocuous question about the legal definition of vaccines. Then over its next 3,400 words, it declared coronavirus vaccines were “a medical fraud” and said the injections did not prevent infections, provide immunity or stop transmission of the disease.

Instead, the article claimed, the shots “alter your genetic coding, turning you into a viral protein factory that has no off-switch.”

Its assertions were easily disprovable. No matter. Over the next few hours, the article was translated from English into Spanish and Polish. It appeared on dozens of blogs and was picked up by anti-vaccination activists, who repeated the false claims online. The article also made its way to Facebook, where it reached 400,000 people, according to data from CrowdTangle, a Facebook-owned tool.

The entire effort traced back to one person: Joseph Mercola.

Dr. Mercola, 67, an osteopathic physician in Cape Coral, Fla., has long been a subject of criticism and government regulatory actions for his promotion of unproven or unapproved treatments. But most recently, he has become the chief spreader of coronavirus misinformation online, according to researchers.

An internet-savvy entrepreneur who employs dozens, Dr. Mercola has published over 600 articles on Facebook that cast doubt on Covid-19 vaccines since the pandemic began, reaching a far larger audience than other vaccine skeptics, an analysis by The New York Times found. His claims have been widely echoed on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube.

The activity has earned Dr. Mercola the dubious distinction of the top spot in the “Disinformation Dozen,” a list of 12 people responsible for sharing 65 percent of all anti-vaccine messaging on social media, said the nonprofit Center for Countering Digital Hate. Others include Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a longtime anti-vaccine activist, and Erin Elizabeth, the founder of the website Health Nut News, who is also Dr. Mercola’s girlfriend.

Now, Dr. Mercola and others in the “Disinformation Dozen” are in the spotlight as vaccinations in the United States slow, just as the highly infectious Delta variant has fueled a resurgence in coronavirus cases. More than 97 percent of people hospitalized for Covid-19 are unvaccinated, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

President Biden has blamed online falsehoods for causing people to refrain from getting the injections. But even as Mr. Biden has urged social media companies to “do something about the misinformation,” Dr. Mercola shows the difficulty of that task.

nyt
Glennn
 
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Sat 24 Jul, 2021 11:22 am
@hightor,
How about this:
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". . . but this is the first study to show that the damage occurs when cells are exposed to the spike protein on its own."
________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Is that dangerous information?
BillRM
 
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Sat 24 Jul, 2021 11:52 am
@Glennn,
LOL I keep thinking are you yourself and your loves ones protected with vaccines or not?

 

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