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Jasper10
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 06:24 am
@htam9876,
Well the forces WITHIN the core must be separate but balanced or else matter would drift apart.....surely..

As to what is happening in relation to static electricity ....well that can't be impacting upon the balanced core.

htam9876
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 03:18 pm
@Jasper10,
“…the forces WITHIN the core must be separate but balanced”
Yes, of course.

“As to what is happening in relation to static electricity ....”
The tips ahead is just an analogy to spark thinking.
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htam9876
 
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Reply Tue 11 May, 2021 03:22 pm
Game of rabbits, touchy and feely:

When two male rabbits encounter, they will kick the *ss of each other. Then, they bounce, bounce, bounce away in their respective direction. Dismiss. No balance could reach.
When one male rabbit and a female rabbit encounter, “perhaps” they will melt down together. No balance could reach either.

Now, the game here is as below:
One female rabbit Dandan as well as three male rabbits A, B, C.
How to maintain balance?

Have a lovely day, guys. haha
Jasper10
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2021 12:15 am
@htam9876,
Not sure in what context you are referring,however.....at a philosophical level...my input is that we are back to the logic possibility output table again.

1. 2 male rabbits...(0,0)
2.1 male rabbit...1 female rabbit...(o,1)
3.1 female rabbit...1 male rabbit...(1,0)
4.2 female rabbits ...(1,1)

One needs to contemplate items 3 and 4 logic possibilities as well.

Balance is then maintained
Jasper10
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2021 12:26 am
@Jasper10,
A 0 and 1 can change state.

PRESENCE/SELF/AWARENESS/CONTROL are involved.

Consciousness types are associated with “toggling”
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htam9876
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2021 06:12 pm
@Jasper10,
Seems that you brought in more rabbits to play. Very bustling.
Don’t you think that the effect of item 1 = item 4, while the effect of item 2 = item 3?

Piggy translates your expression into physics:
1. One positive charge moves in the electric field of another positive charge;
2. One positive charge moves in the electric field of one negative charge;
3. One negative charge moves in the electric field of one positive charge;
4. One negative charge moves in the electric field of another negative charge.
The expression talks about different physical environment. Obviously it’s the affair in the category of “consciousness (types)”. They can’t sufficiently illustrate how attraction and expulsion reaches balance.
But seems that you are AWARE of something:
“PRESENCE/SELF… are involved.”
……………………………………………………………
The affair in the category of SELF and PRESENCE could be as below:
1. Male rabbit is male rabbit;
2. Male rabbit is female rabbit;
3. Female rabbit is male rabbit;
4. Female rabbit is female rabbit.
Obviously item 2 and 3 are absurd and redundant.
……………………………………………………………
To solve specific problems of “HOW” in physics, specific physical model is needed.
htam9876
 
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Reply Wed 12 May, 2021 06:15 pm
For easier understanding or convenient calculation sake, physics and math usually resorts to simplified method.
Actually piggy can simplified the original rabbit game:
Now, the game here is as below:

One female rabbit Dandan as well as two male rabbits A, B.
HOW to maintain balance?

Have a lovely day, guys. haha
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Jasper10
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 12:12 am
@htam9876,
Ok ....if you put an “is” into the rabbit game....at the philosophical level you are talking ABSOLUTES.This is where it starts to get argumentative.

Clearly, there are different philosophical opinions on the definitions of Good and Bad for example....and as we have been unable to definitively define what Good and Bad is individuals have differing opinions on their definition..

1.Good is Good
2.Good is Bad
3.Bad is Good
4.Bad is Bad

The above is a logic output possibilities table which taken as a whole is an ABSOLUTE because nobody can definitively PROVE one way or the other if any of the 4 off statements is actually true or false.

Most modern day philosophy only adopts items 2/3 i.e doesn’t accept the possibility of items 1/4 at all...why?.because they are
ABSOLUTES.Ridiculous I know but that is just the way it is at the moment.

Any idea will be entertained regarding good and bad but NOT the possibility that they are SEPARATE and DIFFERENT.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 01:13 am
@htam9876,
The NEUTRAL/CORE in it's rest state is neither + or - ...it is STILL...but is connected by the invisible springs which are under NO tension...The cores do have the potential to have a + or - potential but only IF movement between the individual cores is instigated from an EXTERNAL source (expansion/contraction). The interconnecting springs will then adopt a + or - bias. Does this theory work in physics as there are philosophical correlations.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 01:15 am
@Jasper10,
Question: Are there equal but opposite ...separate but different principles at play in physics? ...presently....modern day philosophy says there isn't.
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htam9876
 
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Reply Thu 13 May, 2021 01:30 pm
@Jasper10,
“Most modern day philosophy only adopts items 2/3 i.e doesn’t accept the possibility of items 1/4 at all...why? because they are ABSOLUTES. Ridiculous I know but that is just the way it is at the moment.”
As you said ahead that “…prisoner of consciousness”.
As Piggy said ahead that “many people are still trapped in the era of subconsciousness ”.

Piggy’s opinion is that only the 2 – off logic is applicable in the category of SELF and PRESENCE.

People can consider that:
A rabbit with a * is a male rabbit (* is *);
A rabbit with a * is a female rabbit (* is #);
A rabbit with a # is a male rabbit (# is *);
A rabbit with a # is a female rabbit (# is #).
This is just their game of consciousness. But in nature, the SELF and PRESENCE is just:
* is *;
# is #.
ABSOLUTES.
Jasper10
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 12:00 am
@htam9876,
Ok ...interesting...

Now that the principle of the 4 off logic POSSIBILITY outputs is established and has been tested for soundness...how is this related to both philosophy and science...what is the significance of it?

We know that HALF or FULL logic will provide balance and an “I don’t know” but there are also mysterious outputs for both at the philosophical level following logic balance.Hence positive and negative Nihilism.A nihilist ALWAYS has an opinion.

htam9876
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 01:33 pm
@Jasper10,
“…what is the significance of it?”
It’s about the cognition degree about nature and era of science.
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htam9876
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 01:39 pm
The “prerequisite” of application of logic , touchy and feely:

Piggy talked about the 4 – off logic in the category of “consciousness” with the case of energy conservation ︱△U ︱=︱△Ek︱. In that case, we could consider that︱△U ︱is ︱△Ek︱or ︱△Ek︱is ︱△U ︱, because the internal energy E (the SELF) was in control (the “prerequisite”). The “consciousness” is not the controlling element. So, no matter how people play (their game of consciousness), it would not cause trouble to the essence of nature.

But in the category of SELF and PRESENCE, “SELF with the assistance of PRESENCE is meant to take overall CONTROL”. The “prerequisite” is different. If people play their SELF in this category, what will happen?
Male rabbit is female rabbit;
Female rabbit is male rabbit.
How lame it all sounds. Perhaps only Dandan can do that. Bounce…
………………………………………………..
Another relevant example in physics is the “the twins’ paradox (in consciousness)” piggy mentioned ahead.
“The fun thing is that such paradox in consciousness is also reasonable. But fortunately, it’s not the controlling element. Haha”
“If you are willing to enter the era of SELF, such paradox automatically disappear”.
(Piggy will talk about this question in details in the physics thread in another appropriate time.)

The question is in the era of subconsciousness, while the answer is in the era of SELF. How can those “prisoner of consciousness” find a way out? The fact is that they argue endlessly there over this “why”. They need to be AWARE.

The positive spirit should be: solved this “why” and advance to the next “why”, although perhaps “at the end of the tail…”
 https://physicshelpforum.com/data/attachments/2/2163-dc109286560f62bafbadbe2df265c028.jpg

Liqiang chen
May 15 , 2021
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Jasper10
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 03:17 pm
@htam9876,
Only SELF is influenced by consciousness types...PRESENCE isn’t......PRESENCE is separate.SELF “toggles” if it engages with consciousness types and can only take CONTROL of the consciousness types if it has AWARENESS.

SELF gains AWARENESS from PRESENCE (when they are UNITED).SELF can only unite with PRESENCE if it comes out of the consciousness types.

PRESENCE is STILL...
Jasper10
 
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Reply Fri 14 May, 2021 11:03 pm
@Jasper10,
How can SELF come out of consciousness types if there is no where for SELF to go into?....interesting....there must be somewhere for SELF to go into.A separate place where PRESENCE resides.What about a correlation in physics?
htam9876
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2021 02:29 pm
@Jasper10,
“Only SELF is influenced by consciousness types”
Below is a famous Buddhist story:
Once upon a time, Huineng(惠能) saw some monks arguing the topic “whether it’s the wind shaking the tree ?”.
Huineng argued: “It’s your mind shaking”.

………………………………….
SELF “toggles”:
“toggle” is the expression or feeling of philosophy. We deed to describe it with professional expression of physics or math, if it does have a correlation in science.
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htam9876
 
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Reply Sun 16 May, 2021 05:37 pm
SELF vs “toggle”, touchy and feely:

Piggy has been seeking a formal name for the expression of “toggle” for quite a while. The word “projection” seems to be the appropriate terminology in science.

Again, take the case of internal energy as example. (︱△U ︱= ︱△Ek︱= ︱△E︱ ). For details, see the chapter “primary unified conception of energy” in the physics thread.
︱△E︱is the change of internal energy (the SELF).

The projection of ︱△E︱in the dynamic situation is the change of kinematic energy ︱△Ek︱.
︱△Ek︱could be considered as the “external appearance” of︱△E︱ in dynamic situation.

The projection of ︱△E︱in the gravitational situation is the change of gravitational potential ︱△U︱.
︱△U︱could be considered as the “external appearance” of︱△E︱ in gravitational situation.

(A vivid analogy might be the front view and back view of a machine part in machinery drawing.)
………………………………………………
At this moment, smart researchers might set out to think this question: why there is the “external appearance” in position space as well as the “external appearance” in momentum space in QM? Math is just a tool of description. There must be something substantial and physical behind them: the PRESENCE and the SELF. What are they? Seems that QM now can’t demonstrate them explicitly.
Of course, it’s not the topic at present.

Liqiang Chen
May 17, 2021
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Jasper10
 
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Reply Mon 17 May, 2021 12:48 am
@htam9876,
SELF is AWARE of the “toggle” but separate from it.In other words one is AWARE of when one is in manual or autopilot.If AWARE rather than UNAWARE one can exercise CONTROL and bring oneself out of autopilot and in to MANUAL even though the pendulum continues to swing.
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htam9876
 
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Reply Tue 18 May, 2021 01:34 pm
@Jasper10,
Or you can think it in counter way:
The PRESENCE is there. SELF resides in it. If there is somewhere for SELF to go (projection), they are the consciousness type(s).
The correlation in physics is as below:
An elementary particle PRESENCE there, internal energy (the SELF or say the inherent property) resides in it. If the elementary particle moves (the specific physical environment), the change of internal energy would be the kinematic energy (the consciousness type or say the “external appearance”).
 

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